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Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes

Super fascinating hearing all these tapes that have never been released before. THe documentary contains more background on Ted through video, audio and still photos. Also, they take us back with social commentary about the times with supporting videos, audios, photos and interviews.


I've watched the first 3 episodes and am amazed at how horrible the police and judicial work seemed in 1977. Did you see the tape where Bundy was in court in Florida and the judge was considering giving him bail? They arrested him for stealing a car and found 21 credit cards on him and Bundy refused to tell them his name and they were talking about bail?

Allowing him to jump out of a window in the courthouse in Aspen was pretty amazing too.

It was incredible that he was in Florida for two freaking weeks and they couldn't figure out who he was.
 

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I've watched the first 3 episodes and am amazed at how horrible the police and judicial work seemed in 1977. Did you see the tape where Bundy was in court in Florida and the judge was considering giving him bail? They arrested him for stealing a car and found 21 credit cards on him and Bundy refused to tell them his name and they were talking about bail?

Allowing him to jump out of a window in the courthouse in Aspen was pretty amazing too.

It was incredible that he was in Florida for two freaking weeks and they couldn't figure out who he was.
He escaped twice!!! TWICE!! How could such a high risk individual do all he got away with?

The fact he gave his real name to women when he met them to kill them, and ALWAYS drove a VW bug. Always STOLE a VW bug to drive -- just craziness to me.

The fact that police departments didn't share information across state lines blows me away. Of course, we didn't have the internet, but still, you would think there would be some Cop hotline about sh*t like this.

It was interesting how they took it to the third person and Ted opened up about things. And I think he was being honest about his evaluation of the "perpetrator."

You just know there are many women out there that we don't know about. Ted mentioned to someone that he did 3 figures of murders. Was he bragging? Was he just f'ing with them? Or, was he telling the truth? I think he was telling the truth. He was insatiable. And the closer that noose tightened around his neck, the more frantic he became. Blood lust is a perfect description for his chaotic Florida spree.

I know they didn't want to play games with him, but I do wish they would've kept him around a little while longer just to find some of these women who were never found. On one hand.

On the other hand, I'm glad they didn't play his game.
 

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He escaped twice!!! TWICE!! How could such a high risk individual do all he got away with?

The fact he gave his real name to women when he met them to kill them, and ALWAYS drove a VW bug. Always STOLE a VW bug to drive -- just craziness to me.

The fact that police departments didn't share information across state lines blows me away. Of course, we didn't have the internet, but still, you would think there would be some Cop hotline about sh*t like this.

It was interesting how they took it to the third person and Ted opened up about things. And I think he was being honest about his evaluation of the "perpetrator."

You just know there are many women out there that we don't know about. Ted mentioned to someone that he did 3 figures of murders. Was he bragging? Was he just f'ing with them? Or, was he telling the truth? I think he was telling the truth. He was insatiable. And the closer that noose tightened around his neck, the more frantic he became. Blood lust is a perfect description for his chaotic Florida spree.

I know they didn't want to play games with him, but I do wish they would've kept him around a little while longer just to find some of these women who were never found. On one hand.

On the other hand, I'm glad they didn't play his game.


I understand that there was no internet or faxes etc but when he was in Florida and they couldn't figure out who he was, he was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. Somebody should have thought to look at the list. It seems at least one person would have done that.
 

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I understand that there was no internet or faxes etc but when he was in Florida and they couldn't figure out who he was, he was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. Somebody should have thought to look at the list. It seems at least one person would have done that.
Exactly!

How they could even think of bond is crazy with all those credit cards and the fact he was being evasive. Wow. Obviously hiding something big.

But, let's pick up some poor schmuck with a joint and beat him in the back of a paddy wagon and give him a rough ride. Then, throw him in jail for the next 15 years.

Because he might steal my cheetos.
 

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Exactly!

How they could even think of bond is crazy with all those credit cards and the fact he was being evasive. Wow. Obviously hiding something big.

But, let's pick up some poor schmuck with a joint and beat him in the back of a paddy wagon and give him a rough ride. Then, throw him in jail for the next 15 years.

Because he might steal my cheetos.

I'm not sure I heard right but when he tried to kidnap the girl in Washington, he was charged with a misdemeanor?
 

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I'm not sure I heard right but when he tried to kidnap the girl in Washington, he was charged with a misdemeanor?
Oh my gosh, really? I must have missed that.

The girl in Utah that got away and later was their big break in identifying him in a line up faced huge backlash from her Mormon neighbors and the church. The Mormons rallied around Ted. And it sounds like they were almost bullies to her. Telling her she had the wrong guy.

Ted is always described as this charismatic, handsome man. He has always looked creepy to me. Always. He has the coldest damn eyes. His smile never gets to his eyes. Maybe he just takes bad photos and was much more warm and fuzzy in person.
 

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Oh my gosh, really? I must have missed that.

The girl in Utah that got away and later was their big break in identifying him in a line up faced huge backlash from her Mormon neighbors and the church. The Mormons rallied around Ted. And it sounds like they were almost bullies to her. Telling her she had the wrong guy.

Ted is always described as this charismatic, handsome man. He has always looked creepy to me. Always. He has the coldest damn eyes. His smile never gets to his eyes. Maybe he just takes bad photos and was much more warm and fuzzy in person.


It may have been the girl in Utah I'm talking about. But the first time he was arrested, I think he was charged with a misdemeanor (If I heard right).
 

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It may have been the girl in Utah I'm talking about. But the first time he was arrested, I think he was charged with a misdemeanor (If I heard right).
In looking at the Utah girl, Carol DaRonch case, he was convicted of aggravated kidnapping. But, there are other women who claim to be potential victims. So I wouldn't be one bit surprised if their claims were just thought of as a he said she said misunderstanding and he got a misdemeanor.
 

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It may have been the girl in Utah I'm talking about. But the first time he was arrested, I think he was charged with a misdemeanor (If I heard right).
I'd be interested in your overall thoughts when you finish that last segment.

Ted lived in a perfect world for his needs. And like he said, who was going to believe a "good-looking", well-mannered, educated law student was a serial killer? The cops would blow by him to look at the stereotype.
 

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Breslin and Hamill: Deadline Artists

Breslin and Hamill: Deadline Artists | Documentaries | HBO


I would recommend this. It's currently playing on HBO and gives us a look into the lives and careers of two very famous newspaper men, a dying breed.

Or I should say, not dying, skilled and talented writers are out there, they just aren't appreciated anymore with everyone blogging and thinking they are Shakespeare. Some of those bloggers are revealed as talents as well. But all that good writing gets lost in the overwhelming sludge.

This is a look at human history, attitudes and politics of the times, publishing, writing -- if you want to keep your mind thinking, watch this.
 
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Close Up With the Hollywood Reporter -- Writers

I need to find a new word to use instead of love.

But, I loved this! It was so interesting to have this table of screenwriters discussing the craft. Creative, fascinating people. And I enjoyed that Paul Schrader was included. He wrote Taxi Driver which was one of my books in my Year of Cemetery Dance thread.

I love serendipitous connections I make after experiencing something. As time goes on, things pop up related and it just adds to my overall knowledge, interest and enjoyment of a thing. And all those connections give your base experience a better view of the thing as a whole. If you get what I mean.
 
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FILMWORKER

This is about Leon Vitale and his relationship with Stanley Kubrick.

A very creative and talented actor, he gave that up to work with Stanley Kubrick.

I am glad to see that there are people who have stepped forward to make sure everyone knows how much Leon Vitale contributed to the works of Kubrick. Dedicated and loyal don't even begin to cover what Leon did for him. He was a Renaissance man. He did everything. And sometimes, with very little acknowledgement, thanks, appreciation.

For a time, he worked for free to continue to make sure that Kubrick's work was archived and completed in a way that Kubrick himself would have wanted. He was not acknowledged as the number one source of all things Kubrick at a huge exhibition -- fail!

Shame on Kubrick's estate for not properly paying a man who dedicated his whole life at the detriment of his own is disgusting to me. Although now, I do think he is working for the Kubrick estate, after they apparently had an aha! moment about the years of total servitude to the director.

I'm sick of rich people always thinking someone is out to get them financially. Sure, I understand it happens enough that they are wary, but when you suspect people who have proven themselves as loyal, when you don't trust the very people who have asked nothing of you-- and these people have helped them for no other reason than for their own deep admiration, appreciation and genuine desire to be helpful -- it's just bad manners!

These creative types do lose their humanity and clarity. It's all about them. They are hyper focused on themselves and give no time to those around them. It takes a village to keep the balls in the air. They don't want to acknowledge the villagers. Especially the smallest ones.

They always feel they are being used when in fact, they are the users.
 
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