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Sundrop

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Oh my gosh! That had to be terrifying for everyone but so glad to hear that Pearl will be okay. It could have been so much worse. I'd echo what Spidey said about checking to verify his story about being an emotional support dog. Do they live near to you that you might have to worry about this happening again?
The owner is moving into the rental house next door. I know the landlord has a no dogs allowed policy, but in the case of a service pet, she most likely allowed an exception. I'm going to give her a call this afternoon and let her know what happened.
 

Sundrop

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This is terrible! Pitbulls are very scary creatures. Yes, yes, people who own them say they are the most gentle things and loving. And they probably are to them. But they don't play well with others. Or that has been my experience with them.

Hopefully this was an eye opener for this owner to realize this and he will take precautions from now on. Sounds like a muzzle is in order.
A bunch of things bother me about the situation. I keep my dog on my property on a lead. She can't bother anyone or anything. His dog wasn't wearing a collar....only a bandana around its neck.
And the worst thing.....I keep thinking about the neighbor's small children who love to play in my backyard.
 

Sundrop

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Just had a thought re: reporting the "service" dog. It may be out of Sunny's hands. Wouldn't the vet that treated Pearl be required to file a report re: what caused her injuries?
The vets office didn't ask for his name or phone number or anything. I hope they will report it. If they don't, I'm almost sure several of my neighbors will. All of them were outside during the incident, and all of them ran over to offer support, help, and to check on Pearl if I can't get away from work. Even the neighbor who was mad at me about asking the kids not to sled on my bank was so very nice.
 

Dana Jean

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A bunch of things bother me about the situation. I keep my dog on my property on a lead. She can't bother anyone or anything. His dog wasn't wearing a collar....only a bandana around its neck.
And the worst thing.....I keep thinking about the neighbor's small children who love to play in my backyard.
That's super scary. A bandana isn't adequate for this dog and I hope this owner sees that now. I am so thankful Pearl will recover, I can't even imagine the horror of that. You might want to keep some sort of weapon with you and Pearl from now on. A golf club springs to mind. I know you don't want to hurt another animal, but you do what you have to do to protect you and Pearl. And Munchkin. Pits will attack adults. You are doing the right thing calling the landlord. And I would document it. Because if something happens to another pet or child, you warned the landlords of the potential deadly weapon they harbored.

Sounds dramatic I know. But this is serious. You know, you might still contact authorities. Because now that you know this dog is vicious, and if something does happen where a child got hurt, you would be devastated.
 

swiftdog2.0

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On Sunday, my dog was attacked by a Pit Bull mix breed on my property. I had come home from lunch with my Mom, let Pearl out on the lead, and ran inside to change into some grubbing clothes so I could play with the dog, and dig in some dirt. Just as I zipped my pants, I heard the awfulest scream from my dog that I've ever heard. I ran out the back door, and saw the other dog with its mouth around Pearl's entire upper body, flinging her around like a wet rag. The other dog's owner was there as quickly as I was, and he struggled to get his dog to let Pearl go. My guess is that it took about three minutes to get the dog to let go....longest most awful three minutes of my life. When I saw her laying on the ground, I thought she was dead.....she was so small and so still. Those of you that have been here a while and have seen the photos of Pearl know that she small.....about 14 pounds of Jack Russell Chihuahua. Obviously no match for an 85 pound Pit Bull. I was so terrified. The Pit's owner did try to do the right thing. He was very apologetic, drove me and Pearl to the emergency pet clinic, waited the 5 plus hours it took to patch Pearl up, and paid the total cost. I do believe he is sincerely sorry, and while I am appreciative, I was a little pissed off that he begged me not to report the incident to animal control.....said his dog has never behaved like that before and is registered as an emotional support service pet.......I had to be nice, because we were at the pet clinic, and he was footing the bill, and I didn't have a ride back home, and didn't even bring my purse or cell phone. I'm calling BS on the service pet never behaved like that before story. The good news is that Pearl is going to be okay. She has a whole bunch of stitches and is wearing the cone of shame, and somehow lost most of her front teeth.....I'm secretly hoping that she got a good bite or two in..... I'm also very thankful that the Munchkin was at her dad's house. As traumatic as the scene was for me, it would have devastated her. When Munchkin came home yesterday, Pearl sat up, smiled and barked for the first time since she was hurt.......I swear, my girl is magic.

So sorry to hear that. I'm glad Pearl is OK.

Anyone can claim their pet is an "emotional support animal". There is no mandated training and you can print certificates for that right off the internet. A service animal is an entirely different story. Service dog training is intense and a very small percentage of dogs are suited for it. I'd be very surprised if his dog is a legit service animal.

At least the owner took some responsibility and covered the medical expenses.
 

wolfphoenix

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That's super scary. A bandana isn't adequate for this dog and I hope this owner sees that now. I am so thankful Pearl will recover, I can't even imagine the horror of that. You might want to keep some sort of weapon with you and Pearl from now on. A golf club springs to mind. I know you don't want to hurt another animal, but you do what you have to do to protect you and Pearl. And Munchkin. Pits will attack adults. You are doing the right thing calling the landlord. And I would document it. Because if something happens to another pet or child, you warned the landlords of the potential deadly weapon they harbored.

Sounds dramatic I know. But this is serious. You know, you might still contact authorities. Because now that you know this dog is vicious, and if something does happen where a child got hurt, you would be devastated.
golf clubs good
i'd use a tire knocker if you can get one sun
 

DiO'Bolic

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On Sunday, my dog was attacked by a Pit Bull mix breed on my property. I had come home from lunch with my Mom, let Pearl out on the lead, and ran inside to change into some grubbing clothes so I could play with the dog, and dig in some dirt. Just as I zipped my pants, I heard the awfulest scream from my dog that I've ever heard. I ran out the back door, and saw the other dog with its mouth around Pearl's entire upper body, flinging her around like a wet rag. The other dog's owner was there as quickly as I was, and he struggled to get his dog to let Pearl go. My guess is that it took about three minutes to get the dog to let go....longest most awful three minutes of my life. When I saw her laying on the ground, I thought she was dead.....she was so small and so still. Those of you that have been here a while and have seen the photos of Pearl know that she small.....about 14 pounds of Jack Russell Chihuahua. Obviously no match for an 85 pound Pit Bull. I was so terrified. The Pit's owner did try to do the right thing. He was very apologetic, drove me and Pearl to the emergency pet clinic, waited the 5 plus hours it took to patch Pearl up, and paid the total cost. I do believe he is sincerely sorry, and while I am appreciative, I was a little pissed off that he begged me not to report the incident to animal control.....said his dog has never behaved like that before and is registered as an emotional support service pet.......I had to be nice, because we were at the pet clinic, and he was footing the bill, and I didn't have a ride back home, and didn't even bring my purse or cell phone. I'm calling BS on the service pet never behaved like that before story. The good news is that Pearl is going to be okay. She has a whole bunch of stitches and is wearing the cone of shame, and somehow lost most of her front teeth.....I'm secretly hoping that she got a good bite or two in..... I'm also very thankful that the Munchkin was at her dad's house. As traumatic as the scene was for me, it would have devastated her. When Munchkin came home yesterday, Pearl sat up, smiled and barked for the first time since she was hurt.......I swear, my girl is magic.
That must have been frightening. A pit bull is about the worst choice there is for a service dog. I doubt it has been properly trained or licensed. Probably the owner’s doctor simply wrote him a letter. The attack proves the dog has no place being a service animal and your neighbor, the landlord, might be opening themselves to potential lawsuits if they were alerted to an attack beforehand and still rented it to the owner.

I was once attacked for no reason by a German Shepherd. I have scars on both forearms from it. The owner, a friend, pleaded with me not to report it as it wasn't the first time and he feared the dog would be put down with another incident. So I didn’t. A few weeks later the dog bit the ear off of a teenage girl. Perhaps if I did what I should have there wouldn’t have been another attack.
 

Notaro

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That's horrendous news, hopefully little Pearl will make a full recovery, Pit Bulls are a nasty piece of work, the fact that the other owner went the whole nine yards bringing you to the vet and paying for everything and then begging you not to report it makes me think his animal may have done something similar before. At the end of the day though Pearl is on the road to recovery and really that's all that matters. :)
 

wolfphoenix

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That must have been frightening. A pit bull is about the worst choice there is for a service dog. I doubt it has been properly trained or licensed. Probably the owner’s doctor simply wrote him a letter. The attack proves the dog has no place being a service animal and your neighbor, the landlord, might be opening themselves to potential lawsuits if they were alerted to an attack beforehand and still rented it to the owner.

I was once attacked for no reason by a German Shepherd. I have scars on both forearms from it. The owner, a friend, pleaded with me not to report it as it wasn't the first time and he feared the dog would be put down with another incident. So I didn’t. A few weeks later the dog bit the ear off of a teenage girl. Perhaps if I did what I should have there wouldn’t have been another attack.
like i said
never seen that breed/mix used as service K9
great helprful post Dio
 

mal

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On Sunday, my dog was attacked by a Pit Bull mix breed on my property. I had come home from lunch with my Mom, let Pearl out on the lead, and ran inside to change into some grubbing clothes so I could play with the dog, and dig in some dirt. Just as I zipped my pants, I heard the awfulest scream from my dog that I've ever heard. I ran out the back door, and saw the other dog with its mouth around Pearl's entire upper body, flinging her around like a wet rag. The other dog's owner was there as quickly as I was, and he struggled to get his dog to let Pearl go. My guess is that it took about three minutes to get the dog to let go....longest most awful three minutes of my life. When I saw her laying on the ground, I thought she was dead.....she was so small and so still. Those of you that have been here a while and have seen the photos of Pearl know that she small.....about 14 pounds of Jack Russell Chihuahua. Obviously no match for an 85 pound Pit Bull. I was so terrified. The Pit's owner did try to do the right thing. He was very apologetic, drove me and Pearl to the emergency pet clinic, waited the 5 plus hours it took to patch Pearl up, and paid the total cost. I do believe he is sincerely sorry, and while I am appreciative, I was a little pissed off that he begged me not to report the incident to animal control.....said his dog has never behaved like that before and is registered as an emotional support service pet.......I had to be nice, because we were at the pet clinic, and he was footing the bill, and I didn't have a ride back home, and didn't even bring my purse or cell phone. I'm calling BS on the service pet never behaved like that before story. The good news is that Pearl is going to be okay. She has a whole bunch of stitches and is wearing the cone of shame, and somehow lost most of her front teeth.....I'm secretly hoping that she got a good bite or two in..... I'm also very thankful that the Munchkin was at her dad's house. As traumatic as the scene was for me, it would have devastated her. When Munchkin came home yesterday, Pearl sat up, smiled and barked for the first time since she was hurt.......I swear, my girl is magic.
Hi Sundrop, Whether the dog's owner was nice or not, he definitely deserves to pay all costs. You have a bigger responsibility to report him and his dog based simply on..."what if the next attack is a child.". Pitbulls as service dogs makes no sense to me at all.
 

wolfphoenix

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That's horrendous news, hopefully little Pearl will make a full recovery, Pit Bulls are a nasty piece of work, the fact that the other owner went the whole nine yards bringing you to the vet and paying for everything and then begging you not to report it makes me think his animal may have done something similar before. At the end of the day though Pearl is on the road to recovery and really that's all that matters. :)
nice to see you here Notaro :)
 

Sundrop

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So, I just got off the phone with animal control. One of my neighbors had already reported the incident. The animal conteol officer has paid the other dog owner a visit and informed him of the leash law, and told him that his dog must be maintained adequately and kept on his own property or walked on a sufficient leash. He did say that the owner showed him the cards certifying his dog as an emotional support pet. He said that those cards are really easy to get, and the certification doesn't mean much. He asked me to make a written statement so that they could keep it in the file on the dog for any future reference.
 

wolfphoenix

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So, I just got off the phone with animal control. One of my neighbors had already reported the incident. The animal conteol officer has paid the other dog owner a visit and informed him of the leash law, and told him that his dog must be maintained adequately and kept on his own property or walked on a sufficient leash. He did say that the owner showed him the cards certifying his dog as an emotional support pet. He said that those cards are really easy to get, and the certification doesn't mean much. He asked me to make a written statement so that they could keep it in the file on the dog for any future reference.
good d deal done!
got good fences???
 

Spideyman

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So, I just got off the phone with animal control. One of my neighbors had already reported the incident. The animal conteol officer has paid the other dog owner a visit and informed him of the leash law, and told him that his dog must be maintained adequately and kept on his own property or walked on a sufficient leash. He did say that the owner showed him the cards certifying his dog as an emotional support pet. He said that those cards are really easy to get, and the certification doesn't mean much. He asked me to make a written statement so that they could keep it in the file on the dog for any future reference.
Good results, excellent.
 

swiftdog2.0

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So, I just got off the phone with animal control. One of my neighbors had already reported the incident. The animal conteol officer has paid the other dog owner a visit and informed him of the leash law, and told him that his dog must be maintained adequately and kept on his own property or walked on a sufficient leash. He did say that the owner showed him the cards certifying his dog as an emotional support pet. He said that those cards are really easy to get, and the certification doesn't mean much. He asked me to make a written statement so that they could keep it in the file on the dog for any future reference.

Emotional Support Animal and Service Animal are apples and oranges. Service Animals get rigorous training. I can register a goldfish as an emotional support animal.

As others have said, based on the guys response his dog has probably done this before. It's too bad as bad animal behavior is usually the result of bad pet parenting.

Good luck and a speedy recovery for Pearl!
 

Dana Jean

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So, I just got off the phone with animal control. One of my neighbors had already reported the incident. The animal conteol officer has paid the other dog owner a visit and informed him of the leash law, and told him that his dog must be maintained adequately and kept on his own property or walked on a sufficient leash. He did say that the owner showed him the cards certifying his dog as an emotional support pet. He said that those cards are really easy to get, and the certification doesn't mean much. He asked me to make a written statement so that they could keep it in the file on the dog for any future reference.
Very good.
 

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So, I just got off the phone with animal control. One of my neighbors had already reported the incident. The animal conteol officer has paid the other dog owner a visit and informed him of the leash law, and told him that his dog must be maintained adequately and kept on his own property or walked on a sufficient leash. He did say that the owner showed him the cards certifying his dog as an emotional support pet. He said that those cards are really easy to get, and the certification doesn't mean much. He asked me to make a written statement so that they could keep it in the file on the dog for any future reference.
Good, I'm glad you called them. I hope it got rid of that uneasy feeling you had about keeping it secret. I do hope the pit bull owner will heed the leash law and watch the dog when it is outside and no other pets or children get hurt.
 

Sundrop

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Emotional Support Animal and Service Animal are apples and oranges. Service Animals get rigorous training. I can register a goldfish as an emotional support animal.

As others have said, based on the guys response his dog has probably done this before. It's too bad as bad animal behavior is usually the result of bad pet parenting.

Good luck and a speedy recovery for Pearl!
That's exactly what the animal control officer said......both about registering a goldfish, and about the probability of a past incident. He did check the data, and nothing has been reported for this dog before. That's why he wants me to send a written statement. He said their hands are tied until a pattern is shown. I'm also going to attach a photo of Pearl's injuries so that will become part of the record as well.

Oddly enough, I came home to check on Pearl a few minutes ago, and the landlady's son happened to be next door doing some weed eating. He noticed us outside and came over to say hello, and asked what happened to Pearl. When I told him, he was really upset. He said his mom hadn't wanted to rent to a dog owner, but when the guy produced those cards, she assumed "service animal", and said okay. He asked what kind of dog it was, and when I told him, he said he was sure his mom had not been aware. He did say that the guy had only sub leased for two months, and will be moving at the end of July.
 
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