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Discussion in 'Religion' started by HollyGolightly, Mar 4, 2014.

  1. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    Ash Wednesday is tomorrow, and so Lent begins. I work for the most amazing priest and his continual advice is to give up something like a grudge or a prejudice, and to take up something like a daily devotional or an act of kindness. Easier than it sounds, and sometimes I think giving up coffee might be easier, but Imma try.

    So today happens to be Fat Tuesday (I actually had myself a Fat Weekend).
  2. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    Hey, I gave coffee one year. Not pretty for the first couple of days, but it wasn't so bad :) Giving up a prejudice sounds MUCH harder.

    I'm trying to track down a copy of the Pope's last encyclical for my Lent readings.
  3. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member

    A good example to follow for Lent:
    The Prayer of Saint Francis
    Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace.
    Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
    Where there is injury, pardon;
    Where there is doubt, faith;
    Where there is despair, hope;
    Where there is darkness, light;
    Where there is sadness, joy.

    O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
    To be consoled as to console,
    To be understood as to understand,
    To be loved as to love;
    For it is in giving that we receive;
    It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
    It is in dying to self that we are born to eternal life.
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  4. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    I'm so bad, it's hard to pick which grudge to quit preening.
  5. DiO'Bolic

    DiO'Bolic Not completely obtuse

    How 'bout the one with Sarah Palin? That might actually be.............. biblical (you betcha) ;)
  6. Sigmund

    Sigmund Waiting in Uber.

    Hi, Ms. Holly!

    Due to medical issues I will not be doing my Lent abstinence. (For the last 35 years or so, I would give up all animal flesh-beef,chicken, pork, fish...basically anything that had a face. Ha! AND...this was a HUGE one...flour tortillas.)

    Thank you so much for your suggestion(s).

    Instead of giving up something, I will contribute something.

    I will be volunteering 6 hours a week tutoring students who are having difficulties in their studies. Cool, huh?

    Thank you.

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  7. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    That's fabulous Sig! It doesn't have to be about food. I don't know if I could go without meat for 40 days - I do manage meatless Fridays, but already today I'm missing my bacon. I wonder if I could use my big jar of pork fat drippings to make some gravy - would that still count as fasting? peace be with you!
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  8. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    I found out that it depends on who you ask--lol. Our former priest said that 'drippings' and broth didn't count, but our current priest says they do. There must be a definitive answer out there somewhere!

    Holly, if you do Lent readings, I have a suggestion of a book I loved, written by our former bishop (and then Archbishop of the San Francisco Province): It's called Precious as Silver, by George Niederhauer. Really good, practical, thoughtful book. I learned a lot, and he has some interesting takes on many things. He's also a movie/book buff, and a thoroughly nice guy. When I was on the Bishop's Council, we bonded at a retreat over a love of popcorn and movies (and had a memorable conversation about Sideways. I mentioned it to my husband, and he said, "You admitted to the bishop that you watched THAT?!" I'd completely forgotten about the two hilariously graphic sex scenes when we were talking. Mea culpa.)
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  9. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    thanks for the book rec - I'll see if I can find it - maybe Father has that in his vast library here. You know, after working so closely with a priest and often having conversations with our Bishop, I've come to realize they are just people - people who have given over their lives to the work of God, but just like the rest of us nonetheless with their humanity.
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  10. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    If you can't find it, I'm pretty sure I have an extra copy, if you'd like it :) Yup, just people doing their best.
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  11. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    Found it, Holly. Sadly, our drippings & broth are verboten. From Catholic.org: Abstinence The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Also forbidden are soups or gravies made from them. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal derived products such as margarine and gelatin which do not have any meat taste.
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  12. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    He wasn't more concerned that the bishop had seen it?! ;)
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  13. Out of Order

    Out of Order Need More Time

    I got some ashes on my forehead from cleaning the wood stove out earlier. Does this make me Catholic? :D
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  14. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    HAHAHA! I never thought of that! Bishop Niederhauer is something else--a CA movie lover through and through. I really like him--a straight shooter, no BS kinda guy
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  15. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    Only if they came with a reminder that you came from dust and you're going right back there someday :)
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  16. Evil Queen

    Evil Queen Well-Known Member

    Lent time again....I don't know what I'll be giving up this year...my daughter suggested sugar, as in none in my coffee or tea, but I don't think I'm up to it, or desserts either. Maybe I'll just try to be more forgiving, and not think judgemental thoughts about people, that's harder than it sounds.
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  17. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    Darn it!
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  18. doowopgirl

    doowopgirl very avid fan

    I try to take something on rather than give it up. Extra prayers or extra to a charity of your choice. I have never done meat abstinence. Because a long time ago it was supposed to be a sin to eat meat on a Friday and then it wasn't. So does that mean if you ate meat on Friday when it was a sin did you still go to hell? Or after the sin was ecanted did you get released? We do observe meatless Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Other than that I just don't see the problem.
  19. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    I'm a newish Catholic, so I've never heard of going to Hell for eating meat on Friday - wow! Praise God for Vatican II. I think observing these things during Lent is just to help us understand about sacrifice - denying oneself to draw closer to understanding.
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  20. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    I was never taught we'd go to hell for it. It was a venial sin, purgatory-worthy, not a mortal sin, which would be hell-worthy.

    And of course, now it's not a sin at all.

    Except during Lent. Right? I'll admit, I'm out of practice.
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