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Lord Tyrion

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I totally agree on everything you said. I was quite shocked at the transformation of Glenn, but he has always been such a stiff character. When he grabbed her and said, "I know you're mine," it was like watching some amateur porno. hahahaha!. Not that I've seen amateur porno.

And Joan's thing --wow. Is she that alluring that someone would give up their freedom to be with her and her 4 year old, after he raised his own kids and that was why he divorced in the first place, he felt trapped and he was out there living life. Now let's tie ourselves down because joan has a bazooka pair of knockers?

Joan is very alluring. She is very beautiful and her personality is also attractive.

I think the theme of this storyline is that people repeat what they did in the past. They can't help themselves. My problem with it is that I don't think it was executed well.
 
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This was an interesting episode. It felt a bit like a parody of past episodes where they did mergers/company splits. The point of this was that Don doesn't have the mojo he once had.
 
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Anyone been watching the current season?

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I noticed they had a marathon on this weekend - I started watching it and it was not bad - it was hard to watch all the smoking going on - reminded me of my childhood! :friendly_wink::laugh::Oo:
 
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Dana Jean

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It's not that I didn't like it per se. And I honestly wasn't expecting some big overdone ending either. That wouldn't have been true to the show. I just don't know that I bought Don's ending. I absolutely didn't expect him to rush home and all of a sudden become this stand up dad and ex husband, but this "I'm okay, you're okay" ending didn't ring true to me.

The other character's endings were acceptable. The one that rang the truest for me was Betty and Sally's final scene together. That right there showed the death of not only Betty (future), but of Sally's childhood. Her innocence as a child is forever gone. Poof.

I absolutely hated that Joan was just a set of boobs for the most part the whole entire time (some men finally saw her for the smart, capable woman she was, but not her bedroom partners); I am glad that she saw more for herself and wasn't afraid to go get it. Her strength just grew and grew the whole series.

Honestly, I think what ruined it the most for me is something my son told me was one of the rumors on the internet. That Don Draper was going to end up being D.B. Cooper. I fell in love with that idea and just couldn't shake it, so the zen ommmmm just wasn't Don. And maybe that's the point. This was a whole journey to his enlightenment.
 
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It's not that I didn't like it per se. And I honestly wasn't expecting some big overdone ending either. That wouldn't have been true to the show. I just don't know that I bought Don's ending. I absolutely didn't expect him to rush home and all of a sudden become this stand up dad and ex husband, but this "I'm okay, you're okay" ending didn't ring true to me.

The reason I bought it was because that other man who broke down at the group therapy session felt the same way Don did and they were the exact opposite in terms or personality and status. That man who broke down had a family and never left them, and it still wasn't enough to make him happy. He also seemed like a push over, which Don was not. Even though they were opposites, Don realized that the perception of his situation was what made him feel bad. He can connect to people and be happy, he just has to let himself do so and stop running away.

Perhaps it was rushed, but I thought it was effective. I thought he was going to kill himself for a while, but that man in the group meeting connected with him.

The other character's endings were acceptable. The one that rang the truest for me was Betty and Sally's final scene together. That right there showed the death of not only Betty (future), but of Sally's childhood. Her innocence as a child is forever gone. Poof.

I thought Stan and Peggy's scene was great. There was this authentic tension and their relationship made sense looking back.

I absolutely hated that Joan was just a set of boobs for the most part the whole entire time (some men finally saw her for the smart, capable woman she was, but not her bedroom partners); I am glad that she saw more for herself and wasn't afraid to go get it. Her strength just grew and grew the whole series.

The sexism of her environment was a big part of it. She doesn't know how to navigate these corporate settings like Peggy, but she found herself.

Honestly, I think what ruined it the most for me is something my son told me was one of the rumors on the internet. That Don Draper was going to end up being D.B. Cooper. I fell in love with that idea and just couldn't shake it, so the zen ommmmm just wasn't Don. And maybe that's the point. This was a whole journey to his enlightenment.

What I liked about this show was that I had no idea where this was heading. I had no preconceived notions because this show was so fluid.

I never thought of Mad Men as a show about where these people end up. I never paid much attention to Megan joining Charles Manson or Don jumping out a window. Mad Men wasn't that type of show.
 

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The general consensus is that Don had his zen moment and
used this inspiration to create the Coke commercial. One of the young women in that commercial bears a strong resemblance (including her braids) to the woman at the retreat.
Yes,
i saw that and I agree that he probably had his biggest career achievement with that. So, that is good to think that the selling of material things came from a good place in him. A more honest place.