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Discussion in 'Other Hot Topics' started by KINGSMAN129, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. hossenpepper

    hossenpepper Don't worry. I have a permit!!!

    If the feds move it off the schedule I list, which is such a giant crock of horseshit for it to be there, this ruling would have no further legal basis. Hence the specific language of that being OK because it still violates federal law. This indicates to me that beyond that, there isn't a legal justification for not hiring if pot is legal. Firing for a positive test post accident or injury is also shaky to me. Why do we automatically assume if someone has an accident that it was drug related? Even if they do test positive, how does that prove they were high when the accident occurred? Just seems like justification not to pay for someone hurt on the job, etc., based on specious logic.
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  2. hossenpepper

    hossenpepper Don't worry. I have a permit!!!

    Well, I think it should be barred from being tested for at all if it becomes legal. Just like alcohol.
  3. Lepplady

    Lepplady Chillin' since 2006

    I didn't speak myself correctly. I don't mean that they should be able to test for it, specifically. I mean if it comes up on a general screening. If it's legal, why test for it?
  4. DiO'Bolic

    DiO'Bolic Not completely obtuse

    I dunno. Perhaps they still don’t pay much after all the charitable donations they made recently, like the $100 million donation to the New York-Presbyterian Hospital, and the $25 million grant to the United Negro College Fund. Evil Ba$tards those Koch's are for donating to the arts, education, and medical research! Evil I say! ;)
  5. hossenpepper

    hossenpepper Don't worry. I have a permit!!!

    Their charitable donations don't make them any less sucky to work for. No equivalence at all between the two. They treat employees like crap and pay for sh!t. I doubt if any of their employees would be OK with low wages so they can give to charity. Pretty flimsy argument. And who appointed you their defenders? You ever worked for them? Unless you have, the validity of your opinion on it, especially when from the angle of an unrelated topic, is zero. I haven't even gotten into the people that have died or been disabled due to the cuts in safety and maintenance they implemented at that site in the name of profits. I am sure your a big fan of blood diamonds and child labor too. :)
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  6. Lily Sawyer

    Lily Sawyer B-dazzled

    One can hope they will do the same with attitudes towards climate change.

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  7. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Just saw on the news here in Spokane that the first Spokane resident to purchase it legally was seen by someone who knew him and where he worked and called in and told his employer that the guy had just been on the news, buying grass. His boss texted him, told him he was going to have to come in for a drug test, which he failed and was promptly fired. It's going to be interesting to see if this will hold up in court. He didn't do anything illegal and he was not 'using' when he was at work.
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  8. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Honestly, if I had to give the nod to either 1) a company who treated employees crappy but were generous with charities or 2) a company who paid and treated employees well but didn't donate much if anything to charities, I'd pick No. 2 every time. No question.

    There are companies who actually do both, and that's even better.
  9. VultureLvr45

    VultureLvr45 Well-Known Member

    Pops, This is why I admire you. :lurve:
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  10. bookworm101

    bookworm101 yea, ok, whatever. enjoy your day.

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    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

  12. Riot87

    Riot87 Love him forever

    I sure do wish it was legal lool.
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  13. DiO'Bolic

    DiO'Bolic Not completely obtuse

    Give a shout out to Hobby Lobby! They pay their full time employees about twice the minimum wage and donate over 10% of their income to charity.
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  14. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Hell hasn't gotten that cold yet.
  15. DiO'Bolic

    DiO'Bolic Not completely obtuse

    :rofl: Thanks. I actually laughed out loud on that one. :)
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    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

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  17. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Well, those are good practices. In isolation. Of course, it's a big wide world out there, with plenty of other possibilities to brighten - or dim - the bloom.
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  18. CriticAndProud

    CriticAndProud What's wrong with Idris?

    I have to respectfully disagree with you there, as at least over here, there still are a large amount of people in my age group (mid-teens) who believe that pot should be illegal. A minority probably, but still quite a large number. I would say that, to be perfectly honest, I don't really approve of legalising pot, I don't see the need to legalise yet another addictive substance (and that is probably the most conservative thing I'll ever say ).

    However, I don't pretend to know much about it, so I could be persuaded, my opinion is not all that firm compared to my views on other things (the economy, war etc).
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  19. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Really, that's quite understandable. To me, at least, it's much the same as the government running a chance game (ie., lottery). Or games. Really? You want to promote vice? Make it more accessible? Make it easier for people to succumb to its shallow charms

    But the other end is making this popular but rather benign intoxicant a cause for ruining people's lives and putting them in prison. And I've seen it, I've been in the system that does that, and I just don't think that we get the results we want from that approach.

    Plus we're criminalizing a substance that has apparent therapeutic and agriculture benefit.

    You add up the A + B elements of that equation, and it doesn't equal C, Criminalization, to me.
  20. Lepplady

    Lepplady Chillin' since 2006

    I searched but couldn't find the Legalize Marijuana thread to put this in.
    If a kind mod wants to move it to that thread, I'd be grateful.
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