Recommend a scary movie that others might not have seen

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Dana Jean

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I found a gooooooooood one. The Blood on Satans Claw. It is so very Hawthorn. But Nathaniel never had leave to go as far as they did in 1971. This was the era of mixing horror and sex for that titillating R rating and with this one it works well. Perhaps they were going for a Hammer films type of boost but it just so happened to fit with the story perfectly. Wicked youth so warped by the thing upturned by a plow you know that they were ripe for it in that time of wildness just before the age of full reason and mellowing begin.

The thing I like best about it is how it leads you to temptation then horrifies you with where it led you. The main arrow in the Devils quiver is a nubile body. This one hits that target. The Angel in this one is no angel. It takes a while to get going and it seems a bit clunky and disjointed at first but that somehow adds to the strange atmosphere it generates. It works so well as a witch tale it's images linger and not all of them pleasantly. Also it is just so damned odd. Seriously you have to watch it. I'm not sure it doesn't merit a spot in my top ten. Maybe not but it's close. Top twenty at least.

Did you add this to the Halloween Movie Marathon thread? This makes me laugh, because, I saw this very movie in the line up on youtube as I was watching Dr. Terror's House of Horrors -- thought about watching it.
 

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I found a gooooooooood one. The Blood on Satans Claw. It is so very Hawthorn. But Nathaniel never had leave to go as far as they did in 1971. This was the era of mixing horror and sex for that titillating R rating and with this one it works well. Perhaps they were going for a Hammer films type of boost but it just so happened to fit with the story perfectly. Wicked youth so warped by the thing upturned by a plow you know that they were ripe for it in that time of wildness just before the age of full reason and mellowing begin.

The thing I like best about it is how it leads you to temptation then horrifies you with where it led you. The main arrow in the Devils quiver is a nubile body. This one hits that target. The Angel in this one is no angel. It takes a while to get going and it seems a bit clunky and disjointed at first but that somehow adds to the strange atmosphere it generates. It works so well as a witch tale it's images linger and not all of them pleasantly. Also it is just so damned odd. Seriously you have to watch it. I'm not sure it doesn't merit a spot in my top ten. Maybe not but it's close. Top twenty at least.


Okay playback is disabled but go to Youtube and find it. It will be worth it. I can't seem to even get a link going.

I feel like maybe that movie is included in some cheap horror collection I own called Gorehouse Greats (the movies I've seen on there are anything but great) but I've already had my Xanax and my sleeping pill so i'll have to look tomorrow.
 

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IMDb has taken away the 170 minute playing time of the Suspiria remake. Like I said, it was the first cut shown to the producers. I fear this will be one of those cuts we'll never see. I hope they don't cut it back with too much or that it becomes a disaster as a result. I very much believe in seeing the director's preferred version.

The 170 minute playing time was put back, but there's so little news about it. I wonder what's happening with it. It's now expected 'somewhere in 2018', which is saying nothing really.
No real image has been shown of it, still or moving. The poster is an image from the original as far as I can tell. I'm sure if it's made it'll be put out at some time, but I had expected a trailer of it by now. Concerning the director and the cast you'd expect a cinema release, but if it's that long I hope it will go to tv intact rather than seeing a cut version of it in cinemas.
Guadagnino is one of the most high profile Italian directors at the moment, that's why I'm so curious about it. And the cast looks great too. But some sort of date would be nice, but there is nothing.

The only thing I can find at the moment is that they're still editing. It's expected to be finished in three months, but how long then until it'll be released...
 

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The 170 minute playing time was put back, but there's so little news about it. I wonder what's happening with it. It's now expected 'somewhere in 2018', which is saying nothing really.
No real image has been shown of it, still or moving. The poster is an image from the original as far as I can tell. I'm sure if it's made it'll be put out at some time, but I had expected a trailer of it by now. Concerning the director and the cast you'd expect a cinema release, but if it's that long I hope it will go to tv intact rather than seeing a cut version of it in cinemas.
Guadagnino is one of the most high profile Italian directors at the moment, that's why I'm so curious about it. And the cast looks great too. But some sort of date would be nice, but there is nothing.

The only thing I can find at the moment is that they're still editing. It's expected to be finished in three months, but how long then until it'll be released...

The playing time seems to come and go at random, so it's no certainty at all it will be that long. Still some people have already seen it, including Quentin Tarantino, who apparently cried at the end, because it seems also to be a good drama.

I wonder how you can even stretch the story to 170 minutes, because in essence it's so simple. Even though they were not the main inspirations behind it, Suspiria always felt to me mostly like Rosemary's Baby meets Alice in Wonderland. There are so few films like this, where the whole movie is like a dreamlike fairytale, where things don't really make sense, only on a subconscious level (the most recent film like that I found was Lemora). It also manages to set the mood completely from the very start - from the very first scene you know you are watching something totally unique.

It seems the remake won't use the bright primary colours and will have a more realistic look. I wonder though if you take that away. what wlll you have left? Because the film is mainly a visual and aural affair: every set looks absolutely exquisite and artful, and the lighting and music is what gives it the overall special look and feel.
Argento himself took away the primary colours with the third movie in the trilogy, Mother of Tears. The result is you get a much more realistic looking movie. Lemora without the blue lighting wouldn't have that dreamlike feel either.

The original Suspiria was hardly about good acting - the actors from different nationalities couldn't even understand each other on set and just waited until the other stopped speaking to give their reply.
The remake will have good actors and Guadagnino is known for his drama films - the kind that win prestigious prizes. That's why it's so hard to know what to expect. Will it be more of a serious drama? In a way I find that more intriguing, and it may be more interesting than just trying to mimic the original, but it's not what the original is at all.
 

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Le Bar - Spanish flick on Netflix. It is more thriller than horror but has some gross body stuff. Don't know how well the translation meshes with the original dialogue but whoever did it did a great job. This is one funny, smart, and darkish story. The majority of it takes place in one room - a bar/cafe in Spain - where the patrons see a man shot outside the door and the street is empty. Enjoy!
 

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Le Bar - Spanish flick on Netflix. It is more thriller than horror but has some gross body stuff. Don't know how well the translation meshes with the original dialogue but whoever did it did a great job. This is one funny, smart, and darkish story. The majority of it takes place in one room - a bar/cafe in Spain - where the patrons see a man shot outside the door and the street is empty. Enjoy!
I've seen that, I thought it was a pretty decent little story and I kept it in its original language with subtitles.
 

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Le Bar - Spanish flick on Netflix. It is more thriller than horror but has some gross body stuff. Don't know how well the translation meshes with the original dialogue but whoever did it did a great job. This is one funny, smart, and darkish story. The majority of it takes place in one room - a bar/cafe in Spain - where the patrons see a man shot outside the door and the street is empty. Enjoy!

Just watched this too. It is by well-known Spanish cult director Álex de la Iglesia. Not his best I would say (I would probably go with Las Brujas de Zugarramurdi/Witching and Bitching for that, of the ones I've seen), but still enjoyable.

It's nice that they have horrorfilms on Netflix from countries you don't often see them from. I don't like the Bollywood films, but apart from that some are very interesting. Just saw The Innocents (Los Inocentes) which is Argentinian. I thought it was very good, although not a horrorfilm in the strict sense, more like a supernatural drama.

Also I highly recommend The Similars (Los Parecidos) from Mexico, which is one of the most original horor/sci-fi films I've seen in quite a while. There aren't that many horrorfilms which come up with something new or fresh, but this has a very original idea at the basis. It's also done in a great style, like a lost Twilight Zone episode with washed-out colours and sixties feeling sets, and a voice-over guiding you in and out of the story.
 

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Cool news about the Suspiria remake: it will have Dutch actress Renée van Soutendijk. She's known for working with Paul Verhoeven amongst others, but didn't really manage a Hollywood career even though she tried.

The news about the remake comes slowly, but every bit makes it more intriguing.
I'm expecting Chloë Moretz to be the girl that gets killed first in the original, through the glass stained window.

I suppose if they make the deadline of the editing and put together a trailer after fully editing the film, the trailer should arrive somewhere in the next four months. It all seems to take extremely long, but Italy has of course a different way of doing things than the US, and it is known for doing things slowly.

Every time I see Moretz in something I get almost crazy for it taking so long.
 
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Alright - Holly's Horror Pick of the Day (brackets obscure division close brackets) is the one and only Manhunter, the first adaptation of Thomas Harris' EXCELLENT novel Red Dragon, and the first appearance of Hannibal Lecter on our screens.
(Honestly, if you have never read Red Dragon, stop whatever you're doing immediately and rush out and grab a copy! You will thank me, and then you will sleep with the light on for a month. :))

Red Dragon has been adapted into a film twice - once as Manhunter in 1986, and again as Red Dragon in 2002. The 2002 version featured an A-list cast recognisable from Silence of the Lambs (Anthony Hopkins as everyone's favourite psychiatrist, Anthony Heald as Dr Chilton, along with Edward Norton, Ralph Fiennes, Philip Seymour Hoffman (rest in peace, old friend... You were great, and you are sorely missed) and Emily Watson) and it had the type of budget and production values you would expect for such a great cast - but honestly, the obscure 1986 version blows it out of the water. :)

Manhunter was filmed with a lot of unknown actors on a shoestring budget. The sets are minimal (there are a lot of white walls in this film :)), the acting can be wooden at times and the whole film screams "1980s!!!" at you from the first to the last - but the tension and the suspense and the fear are cranked up masterfully to an unbearable pitch. Tom Noonan's Francis Dolarhyde (the main villain) is one of the most genuinely spooky and frightening characters I have ever seen on screen. He is a big guy, and that high-pitched voice and blank expression make him seem truly unhinged and haunting. And the opening sequence - seeing him pick the lock of the front door, climb the stairs silently and massacre the family in their beds... Good grief, that is horror at it's finest! You will look at the shadows in the corner of your bedroom at night and feel your heart pounding after that... :)

Manhunter - a film so good that you will end up loving its flaws just for being a part of it.
And once again, Red Dragon is an amazingly good book. Read it. You will love it. :)


The stuff of nightmares - Tom Noonan as Francis Dolarhyde
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Can't say I like Manhunter that much but Francis's character was super well adapted from the Thomas Harris novel it's based on,
 
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Any creepy ones that don't have jumpscares or too much gore? Those are both cheap ways to scare people and I can't stand them.
 
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The playing time seems to come and go at random, so it's no certainty at all it will be that long. Still some people have already seen it, including Quentin Tarantino, who apparently cried at the end, because it seems also to be a good drama.

I wonder how you can even stretch the story to 170 minutes, because in essence it's so simple. Even though they were not the main inspirations behind it, Suspiria always felt to me mostly like Rosemary's Baby meets Alice in Wonderland. There are so few films like this, where the whole movie is like a dreamlike fairytale, where things don't really make sense, only on a subconscious level (the most recent film like that I found was Lemora). It also manages to set the mood completely from the very start - from the very first scene you know you are watching something totally unique.

It seems the remake won't use the bright primary colours and will have a more realistic look. I wonder though if you take that away. what wlll you have left? Because the film is mainly a visual and aural affair: every set looks absolutely exquisite and artful, and the lighting and music is what gives it the overall special look and feel.
Argento himself took away the primary colours with the third movie in the trilogy, Mother of Tears. The result is you get a much more realistic looking movie. Lemora without the blue lighting wouldn't have that dreamlike feel either.

The original Suspiria was hardly about good acting - the actors from different nationalities couldn't even understand each other on set and just waited until the other stopped speaking to give their reply.
The remake will have good actors and Guadagnino is known for his drama films - the kind that win prestigious prizes. That's why it's so hard to know what to expect. Will it be more of a serious drama? In a way I find that more intriguing, and it may be more interesting than just trying to mimic the original, but it's not what the original is at all.

The trailer has been out for a while. It doesn't look bad. It looks like a more dark, austere version of the original. I wonder though why you would take a film that is mostly known for it's bright colours and turn it into something so dark.
As for the playing time, it will indeed be long: 2 hours and 32 mins.
Horrorfilms are seldom that long. The Shining (1980) is that long, but I only know the shorter two hour European cut of that.
Of course, television mini-series have been long: Rosemary's Baby redone for tv was close to three hours, but the length didn't add much in terms of story. And the mini-series adaptations of SK have been long too, but theatrical horrorfilms are in general not that long.

I have no idea whether I will like it. I'm a big Argento-fan and, like I said, colour is one of the most important things of Suspiria - along with the Goblin soundtrack and the arresting sets and locations.
A longer playing time seems to suggest a more elaborate story (the story of the original is rather simple, as suits a fairy tale), and the film is likened to The Shining by Moretz. The Shining for me though doesn't have at all the atmosphere of Suspiria. The Shining is bleak and austere, while Suspiria is highly opulent and colourful. So, I don't know what to think, but the trailer does look quite good on its own terms.
The difficulty with a remake is that you can't make the exact same film again, but you got to create something new which still somehow has enough characteristics of the original - which is very hard and why people are often disappointed with remakes.
 

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I really like the images that are coming out for the Suspiria remake, especially this one of Tilda Swinton as Madame Blanc (played in the original by Joan Bennett):

Suspiria (2018)

Although the movie won't have the colour palette of the original it shows there are at least still colourful costumes. And Swinton also has the look for a part like this, you can believe she's part of a coven of witches.
What I also like is that the ballet and dancing will be more rooted in witchcraft: it seems the dancing has a ritualistic purpose this time. In the original the ballet school was a front for the dark arts, but it didn't have anything to do with it as such - it basically could have been any kind of school. Argento chose ballet because he felt it was 'magical' so that linked it to actual magic for him (he has a twisted kind of reasoning, which is apparent in his movies of course).

I also get the idea the role of Pat(ricia) Hingle (Eva Axén in the original) will be much bigger. In the original she's only the first victim, fleeing from the school when the main character Suzy Bannion (Jessica Harper) arrives, and she's killed right away in one of Argento's most famous murder set pieces.
It seems this time she's missing and people are actively searching for her (that's what I get from the trailer anyway, it shows a missing poster in a police station it looks like).
 
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The new trailer for Suspiria looks excellent. There's still a tiny bit of the colourful lighting of the original, but mostly it lacks that.
What's interesting is that the story seems far more coherent than that of the original. The witches seem to making a kind of deal with the students and the dances are linked to their evil deeds. In the original you wonder why the witched even HAD a dance school, because the students served no purpose for them and could only expose their secret (which is what the main character, Suzy, does in the end).
I wonder if it will play in cinemas here, because Argento's films never did (maybe his seventies films, but I was too young to see them then). I only saw three of his films in the cinema (Opera, Trauma and Do You Like Hitchcock?), but it was at special festival screenings. Do You Like Hitchcock was made for television, but is was projected with a kind of video-beamer. Since it was made for television, it still played very well on the big screen.
But since the director of the remake is much better known than Argento, it may well play at cinemas here.

 
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"The Terrifier" is a decent horror flick playing on Netflix. It has a genuine 80s slasher film atmosphere. Short on backstory and long on blood and gore. It doesn't feel like an imitation or parody but the real deal. It stands on its own. I'm amazed at how few horror films are now theatrical releases given how cheaply they can be made and the large returns. "The Nun" apparently took in about $70 million this weekend. "Halloween" is going to be a mega hit in October. The horror genre though has been mostly abandoned to VoD.