Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

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Rrty

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Devo is one of my three favorite bands (the other two being Cheap Trick and The Monkees; I define favorite in the sense that I have gone beyond the radio hits and into the deep catalog). Looks like the band did not make it, but that is certainly okay. The groups that did are very good, indeed. Also, I am not one to defend any group/musician I like, as I am usually objective (i.e., Bun E. Carlos is probably my favorite drummer, but for reasons other than just skill; I would never say he is underrated, as he is most likely appropriately rated relative to others like Peart or Simon Phillips). They just have meaning for me.

I will say, though, about Devo, for those who know anything about the science-fiction mythology the band created for itself, that they turned out to be prophets in a sense (Are we not men! We are Devo! if you know what I mean). Also, on the rock 'n roll thing, I see the point, yet -- consider the one hit most know, Whip It. I've read the hook was influenced by Pretty Woman. Seems true to me. The album it was on, Freedom of Choice, has a rock feel to it, especially a song called It's Not Right, which almost sounds like an oldie (a de-evolved oldie, of course!). Anyway, congrats to the new members, look forward to their performances...
 

mal

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The whole nomination and election process is a joke.

I agree it should be re-named to the Popular Music Hall of Fame or just Music Hall of Fame.

Using the Rock and Roll term is too limiting. There are many sub-genres and it will make purists made if you call Band A "rock" when someone else views them as "punk" or "alternative" or "hard core" or "shoe-gaze emo intentionally ironic mod goth". Labels aren't cool, man!

However, disco artists should be banned! 'Cause it's Disco and Disco is poop! :rolleyes:;):p
I lived through the Disco era and in my opinion it is indeed poop! I am suspicious though. I don't listen to a lot of modern popular music but when I heard some hip hop I thought they changed the name of disco just to fool us! :)
 

mal

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Devo is one of my three favorite bands (the other two being Cheap Trick and The Monkees; I define favorite in the sense that I have gone beyond the radio hits and into the deep catalog). Looks like the band did not make it, but that is certainly okay. The groups that did are very good, indeed. Also, I am not one to defend any group/musician I like, as I am usually objective (i.e., Bun E. Carlos is probably my favorite drummer, but for reasons other than just skill; I would never say he is underrated, as he is most likely appropriately rated relative to others like Peart or Simon Phillips). They just have meaning for me.

I will say, though, about Devo, for those who know anything about the science-fiction mythology the band created for itself, that they turned out to be prophets in a sense (Are we not men! We are Devo! if you know what I mean). Also, on the rock 'n roll thing, I see the point, yet -- consider the one hit most know, Whip It. I've read the hook was influenced by Pretty Woman. Seems true to me. The album it was on, Freedom of Choice, has a rock feel to it, especially a song called It's Not Right, which almost sounds like an oldie (a de-evolved oldie, of course!). Anyway, congrats to the new members, look forward to their performances...
Seeing you're a Cheap Trick fan I'll share a story I read in a Nikki Sixx book. He was strung out at the time and feeling depressed because he thought he lost his ability to play bass. He was at a party and one of the guests was Rick Neilsen from Cheap Trick. Nikki told Rick what was bugging him about not being able to effectively play the bass anymore and Ricks response was classic..."That never stopped Gene Simmons!".
 

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Let's not forget that this entire idea belongs to Jan Wenner. He came up with it, put it together and financed it (along with Rolling Stone magazine). His taste in music doesn't go much farther that plain-old-rock-and-roll-working-hero stuff. Consequently, up until 2014, all inductees were chosen by Wenner and his Board (who like pretty much the same kind of rock). It took them ages to start inducting many sub-genres because of this. Aside from Pink Floyd, no real Prog bands got in until 2007, when Genesis was finally inducted. Other bands like Yes, Rush and The Moody Blues only recently were inducted and then only after the public voting was instituted. Wenner owns the R&RHoF and, until we began to claim it as ours, too, he ruled with an iron eardrum. Just remember that,
 

swiftdog2.0

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I lived through the Disco era and in my opinion it is indeed poop! I am suspicious though. I don't listen to a lot of modern popular music but when I heard some hip hop I thought they changed the name of disco just to fool us! :)

Well, the two most sampled drum loops in hip-hop history are from Billy Squire's The Big Beat and Montrose's Rock Candy. Hip-hop has some rock DNA! Both Billy Squire and Sammy Hagar have said that the royalties they get from those samples alone would ensure they never really have to work again! Plus the Beastie Boys started as a punk band so there you go \w/
 

Rrty

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Seeing you're a Cheap Trick fan I'll share a story I read in a Nikki Sixx book. He was strung out at the time and feeling depressed because he thought he lost his ability to play bass. He was at a party and one of the guests was Rick Neilsen from Cheap Trick. Nikki told Rick what was bugging him about not being able to effectively play the bass anymore and Ricks response was classic..."That never stopped Gene Simmons!".

Thanks for that story, never read it before. Neilsen really is a witty person. Very funny, I laughed out loud...I hope Mr. Simmons has a sense of humor!
 

swiftdog2.0

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I watched Stevie Nicks’s and The Zombies performance, pretty cool. I didn’t really care for anyone else. I’m still waiting for Blue Öyster Cult and Jethro Tull

You're going to be waiting a loooonnnggggg time.........

Not that they don't deserve to get in. The whole nomination / election process is a joke.
 

Wayoftheredpanda

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You're going to be waiting a loooonnnggggg time.........

Not that they don't deserve to get in. The whole nomination / election process is a joke.
I’m very aware, I’m young though so I can probably afford to wait a long time. Gerry Rafferty too (I don’t know if he really counts as rock, but I don’t think Janet Jackson or The Cure are really rock artists either)
 

swiftdog2.0

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I’m very aware, I’m young though so I can probably afford to wait a long time. Gerry Rafferty too (I don’t know if he really counts as rock, but I don’t think Janet Jackson or The Cure are really rock artists either)

That's Ms. Jackson, if you're nasty......

The Cure are most definitely a rock band. A gothy, post-punk one but it's still rock.
 

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The Cure are most definitely a rock band..

The Cure have been around since the late 70's and are known to always do different things. They started off as post punk but over the years they've done post punk, new wave, darkwave, and straight rock. In short, they totally deserve to be part of the Hall Of Fame and so does Def Leppard. I'm surprised it took as long as it did for Leppard to get inducted because since they've never really put out a bad album since they started. And Pyromania, if it wasn't for Jackson's Thriller, it would have easily been the #1 album on the charts for awhile but it got stuck on #2 for awhile instead because Thriller just wouldn't go away.
 
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