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Steffen

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Know what that means, right? Pennywise has two more years to practice some new dance moves! Woo-hoo!

Also, that noise you hear is the other studios scrambling to move all their other "competing" projects away from that weekend.
 

kingricefan

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Know what that means, right? Pennywise has two more years to practice some new dance moves! Woo-hoo!

Also, that noise you hear is the other studios scrambling to move all their other "competing" projects away from that weekend.
I also hear the sound of other competing studios scrambling to get some quickly written terrible scripts about killer clowns or some such entity green lit and filmed so that next summer there will be a glut of horrible horror movies. :fatigue:
 

HedlessChickn

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I also hear the sound of other competing studios scrambling to get some quickly written terrible scripts about killer clowns or some such entity green lit and filmed so that next summer there will be a glut of horrible horror movies. :fatigue:

5 words and a number for ya.

Killer Klowns from Outer Space 2

(A boy can dream, right?)
 

Steffen

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I also hear the sound of other competing studios scrambling to get some quickly written terrible scripts about killer clowns or some such entity green lit and filmed so that next summer there will be a glut of horrible horror movies. :fatigue:

Oh yeah, that's a given. The Conjuring spawned a host of terrible knock-offs. I just hope the studio isn't contemplating anything stupid like a spin-off series for IT. Put out Chapter 2 and that's it. I don't want to see a prequel or Pennywise Jr anything like that.
 

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I just hope the studio isn't contemplating anything stupid like a spin-off series for IT. Put out Chapter 2 and that's it. I don't want to see a prequel or Pennywise Jr anything like that.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but given certain stipulations I would be okay with a prequel. If the same director, producers, screenwriters, etc, were interested in spending even more years of their lives with this story I think they are capable of crafting a prequel that would be faithful enough to the story to be worth watching, although I think it would be impossible to measure up to chapter 1 and I hope chapter 2.

It could be partly based on past events mentioned in the book but not addressed in much detail in either chapter 1 or chapter 2 (the Bradley gang, the ironworks explosion), and partly based on events going back to colonial times. I think the key would be building characters worth caring about rather than just "hey, look at all these other people that It killed!"

I have always wondered if anyone - kids or adults - ever figured out what It was up to and made some kind of attempt to stop It before the Losers Club did. After all, if they were able to hurt It as kids and It still came back 27 years later at full strength, it's plausible that others battled It and then were either unable or unwilling to finish It off (or maybe just faced It and failed totally). With the right storytellers, it could be interesting to explore.

(I agree that if Chapter 2 is a success like Chapter 1, it is more likely that the studio would greenlight a hasty spinoff or prequel that has nothing to do with the essence of the story and would totally suck. But in theory, I think it could work).
 

kingricefan

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but given certain stipulations I would be okay with a prequel. If the same director, producers, screenwriters, etc, were interested in spending even more years of their lives with this story I think they are capable of crafting a prequel that would be faithful enough to the story to be worth watching, although I think it would be impossible to measure up to chapter 1 and I hope chapter 2.

It could be partly based on past events mentioned in the book but not addressed in much detail in either chapter 1 or chapter 2 (the Bradley gang, the ironworks explosion), and partly based on events going back to colonial times. I think the key would be building characters worth caring about rather than just "hey, look at all these other people that It killed!"

I have always wondered if anyone - kids or adults - ever figured out what It was up to and made some kind of attempt to stop It before the Losers Club did. After all, if they were able to hurt It as kids and It still came back 27 years later at full strength, it's plausible that others battled It and then were either unable or unwilling to finish It off (or maybe just faced It and failed totally). With the right storytellers, it could be interesting to explore.

(I agree that if Chapter 2 is a success like Chapter 1, it is more likely that the studio would greenlight a hasty spinoff or prequel that has nothing to do with the essence of the story and would totally suck. But in theory, I think it could work).[/QUOTE]
Now you're getting into Children Of The Corn territory.....;-D
 

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but given certain stipulations I would be okay with a prequel. If the same director, producers, screenwriters, etc, were interested in spending even more years of their lives with this story I think they are capable of crafting a prequel that would be faithful enough to the story to be worth watching, although I think it would be impossible to measure up to chapter 1 and I hope chapter 2.

It could be partly based on past events mentioned in the book but not addressed in much detail in either chapter 1 or chapter 2 (the Bradley gang, the ironworks explosion), and partly based on events going back to colonial times. I think the key would be building characters worth caring about rather than just "hey, look at all these other people that It killed!"

I have always wondered if anyone - kids or adults - ever figured out what It was up to and made some kind of attempt to stop It before the Losers Club did. After all, if they were able to hurt It as kids and It still came back 27 years later at full strength, it's plausible that others battled It and then were either unable or unwilling to finish It off (or maybe just faced It and failed totally). With the right storytellers, it could be interesting to explore.

(I agree that if Chapter 2 is a success like Chapter 1, it is more likely that the studio would greenlight a hasty spinoff or prequel that has nothing to do with the essence of the story and would totally suck. But in theory, I think it could work).
I've read that Stephen King does not like fan fiction. While your ideas sound good, and something I'd check out, I wonder if the studio/person/entity that purchased the film rights would also have the right to create an original story based on the SK characters, under the initial agreement.
 

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It could be partly based on past events mentioned in the book but not addressed in much detail in either chapter 1 or chapter 2 (the Bradley gang, the ironworks explosion), and partly based on events going back to colonial times. I think the key would be building characters worth caring about rather than just "hey, look at all these other people that It killed!"

This is actually a great idea. I'd certainly be interested in reading about these things, if not watching them. I have often wondered at how IT was dealt with before the Loser's Club. The picture which It spoke to them from on a 19th century street. The feuds, the ironworks, the Spot... all of these would make good reading if done correctly.
 

Steffen

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but given certain stipulations I would be okay with a prequel. If the same director, producers, screenwriters, etc, were interested in spending even more years of their lives with this story I think they are capable of crafting a prequel that would be faithful enough to the story to be worth watching, although I think it would be impossible to measure up to chapter 1 and I hope chapter 2.

It could be partly based on past events mentioned in the book but not addressed in much detail in either chapter 1 or chapter 2 (the Bradley gang, the ironworks explosion), and partly based on events going back to colonial times. I think the key would be building characters worth caring about rather than just "hey, look at all these other people that It killed!"

I have always wondered if anyone - kids or adults - ever figured out what It was up to and made some kind of attempt to stop It before the Losers Club did. After all, if they were able to hurt It as kids and It still came back 27 years later at full strength, it's plausible that others battled It and then were either unable or unwilling to finish It off (or maybe just faced It and failed totally). With the right storytellers, it could be interesting to explore.

(I agree that if Chapter 2 is a success like Chapter 1, it is more likely that the studio would greenlight a hasty spinoff or prequel that has nothing to do with the essence of the story and would totally suck. But in theory, I think it could work).


It certainly will be tempting for the studio to do this, but I think the opportunity has passed. Those Derry Interludes would have worked better had they been spliced into the first film, and then we would have gotten two solid movies with the kids and Old Derry before the showdown in Chapter 3. Like I said elsewhere, I bet the New Line execs are kicking themselves now for not thinking of this.

The studios have built up a lot of goodwill on this first movie. I say capitalise on that (and the new-found recognition Andy Muschietti is receiving) by doing a stellar 2.5 hour Chapter 2, then acquire the rights to some other prominent King projects. The Muschiettis have been vocal in their wish to get their hands on Pet Sematary. Secure the rights and give it to them. There's your next big R-rated hit right there.
 

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The Muschiettis have been vocal in their wish to get their hands on Pet Sematary.
This is what I keep hearing/reading. Now that I know what they are capable of I'm hopeful, I just hope they give us a meaningful story and not a vehicle to show how shocking and grotesque they can be. The book is dark and a lot to digest but it has its sweet, tender moments: Louis finding a father figure in Jud Crandall, Ellie asking innocent questions about death, a family forging a new start in a new house. The Walking Dead was able to juxtapose these qualities in the first couple of seasons on AMC.
 

Steffen

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This is what I keep hearing/reading. Now that I know what they are capable of I'm hopeful, I just hope they give us a meaningful story and not a vehicle to show how shocking and grotesque they can be. The book is dark and a lot to digest but it has its sweet, tender moments: Louis finding a father figure in Jud Crandall, Ellie asking innocent questions about death, a family forging a new start in a new house. The Walking Dead was able to juxtapose these qualities in the first couple of seasons on AMC.

Great points Doc. Andy's talked about it during several interviews and even had to be stopped by his sister at points. He seems to have definitive ideas about how to adapt that book, and judging by the way he balanced the sweet with the shocking on IT, I would love to see Sematary fall into his hands.
 

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Great points Doc. Andy's talked about it during several interviews and even had to be stopped by his sister at points. He seems to have definitive ideas about how to adapt that book, and judging by the way he balanced the sweet with the shocking on IT, I would love to see Sematary fall into his hands.
Excellent. I need to locate these interviews online. :cool:
 

kingricefan

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I've read that Stephen King does not like fan fiction. While your ideas sound good, and something I'd check out, I wonder if the studio/person/entity that purchased the film rights would also have the right to create an original story based on the SK characters, under the initial agreement.
They did it when they (ABC) filmed The Diary Of Ellen Rimbauer after they made Rose Red, which Steve wrote for television. They did it with Pet Sematary 2. The did it with The Lawnmower Man. Don't get me started on those Children Of The Corn movies.....
 

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Oh yeah. And did you see the bit where he's focused on Louis as a father trying to do the impossible? That's what I like about this guy. He never loses focus on the emotional core of the story. The scares are secondary for him. I tell everyone now that he is a director to watch.
 

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I am curious how the flashbacks are gonna work in this version of the story. I guess the child actors are all gonna be back for Chapter 2. It is going to include flashbacks from Chapter 1, as well as new material filmed specifcally for Chapter 2.