the theater i watched it in was 4/5 of the way full and it seemed like most of the talk afterwords was positive
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I have Tickets for Sunday....maybe i waste 95 minutes of my Life or i get Entertained well
I have Tickets for Sunday....maybe i waste 95 minutes of my Life or i get Entertained well
There's a book? Well I'll be damned!
I just wanted to add that I haven't seen it and therefore have nothing to add.
I thought you were asking why his focus in the movie wasn't on the tower. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
If your question is why they were called diplomats in the book and knights in the movie, saying Gunslingers are the descendants of the knights of Arthur Eld in the books implies that they are knights in Roland's time, as well (in comparison, Jedi knights are diplomats and peacekeepers, but also in charge of protection of all that is good). Movies don't do implication well, so they said it explicitly.
If that's not what you're asking, I give up.
My husband and I went to see The Dark Tower yesterday. My husband has never read an SK book. Usually anything I want to see is not something he likes and vise versa, but he goes and I go and well...he said he genuinely liked the movie! My youngest son who also hasn't read an SK book is pretty excited to see it also, and I didn't want to spoil it for him in any way by being negative, so I let my husband give him his review and like I said his review was a positive one! I did not find myself struggling with the cast...they did a really great job! I find I struggled with the sequences, while my husband just flat enjoyed watching the movie, I was trying to puzzle out why they jumped a book or two ahead, or what I thought would be the next turn in the journey was left out all together, or why certain things popped up that I didn't remember reading about at all...So walking out of the theater I was still puzzled trying to figure out all the angles etc. It was impossible for me to turn off the part of my mind which read the series, and be able to turn on another part of my mind to just enjoy seeing a movie. But hey, how can I really be that hard on it when anyone attempting to put a series the size of The Dark Tower into a movie (s) and have it please everyone!
And you forgot PennyWise was in there both the word and an old clown head
Here ya go: 1 + 1.......
Most balanced review yet!
You can't knock it, or praise it, unless you see it.
first thanks for replying! Really! Second. I believe that in the book it says that roland didint now about the tower when he was a child. He find out when he see the tower in the vision inside the shere(wizard and glash) so he strarts looking for the tower. At this moment he realize that if the tower falls all will die, including susan delgado(his love)
On the other hand. The movie it says that the ALL sworn to protect the tower. Like its something all gunlingers do.
first thanks for replying! Really! Second. I believe that in the book it says that roland didint now about the tower when he was a child. He find out when he see the tower in the vision inside the shere(wizard and glash) so he strarts looking for the tower. At this moment he realize that if the tower falls all will die, including susan delgado(his love)
On the other hand. The movie it says that the ALL sworn to protect the tower. Like its something all gunlingers do.
Oh, okay. I get you now
Roland also says that the existence of the tower is something all the children in his world know about. When he saw it in Wizard and Glass, it may have been the first time he saw it but it wasn't the first he'd heard of it. At that point, he knew that the tower was in trouble and he wanted to save it. I think it was a given that the Gunslingers protect the tower, because it protects life. We don't see/hear their actual vows in the book (that I remember, anyway), but without such why would Roland think he had a responsibility to the tower? My sense was always that he was fulfilling his duty. I haven't read the books in a while, so I don't have a direct quote. Thank you for your patience
Thanks for replying. Again. That was it! I read the books only one time and dont remember some parts.Oh, okay. I get you now
Thank you for your patience
Don'T BEE KRYIN'!!!!...YOU TELL EM HOSS.....MAGA!!!!!!.....
So, I have just seen the movie.....
I have to say, that having been a lifelong fan of Stephen King in general, and more specifically the Dark Tower series, I am genuinely and thoroughly disappointed. Well, more than disappointed actually.
I managed to sit through the movie without muttering too much, enjoying the various Easter eggs, I let out a clearly audible groan at the final exchange between Jake and Roland.
I brought my wife along in the hopes of sparking her interest in the series, and was anticipating the reaction at "Go then, there are other world's than these". Unfortunately, this adaptation seems to be less focused on the unrelenting quest of Roland and more on the happy-go-lucky feeling that the good guys always win!
Casting of Idris Elba was surprisingly inspired, and Jake did fairly well. Walter O'Dim was unsurprisingly disappointing, though his magic use (pre-boss fight) was well done. He was always more of a wormtongue over Voldemort sorcerer.
I would like to say that I would not go to see a sequel (if there is one - doubtful) but I have to be honest and say that I really want to meet Eddie and Susannah. Though I have a feeling there will be no lobstrosities or missing fingers...
I have to say, that having been a lifelong fan of Stephen King in general, and more specifically the Dark Tower series, I am genuinely and thoroughly disappointed. Well, more than disappointed actually.
I managed to sit through the movie without muttering too much, enjoying the various Easter eggs, I let out a clearly audible groan at the final exchange between Jake and Roland.
I brought my wife along in the hopes of sparking her interest in the series, and was anticipating the reaction at "Go then, there are other world's than these". Unfortunately, this adaptation seems to be less focused on the unrelenting quest of Roland and more on the happy-go-lucky feeling that the good guys always win!
Casting of Idris Elba was surprisingly inspired, and Jake did fairly well. Walter O'Dim was unsurprisingly disappointing, though his magic use (pre-boss fight) was well done. He was always more of a wormtongue over Voldemort sorcerer.
I would like to say that I would not go to see a sequel (if there is one - doubtful) but I have to be honest and say that I really want to meet Eddie and Susannah. Though I have a feeling there will be no lobstrosities or missing fingers...
Eddie will be Korean and Susannah will be a man, so.........
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The long and short of it is the film failed for three reasons, none of them having anything to do with fans who read the books.
1. It isn't good. It isn't terrible. It isn't bad. It is simply isn't good.
2. The Studio didn't promote it at all. Thus, even the percentage of people who might have enjoyed it didn't turn up.
3. Aside from not being good, it brought nothing new to the table. This was Hollywood schlock we have seen a 100 times.
I'm going to be brutally honest here, tell the truth and shame the devil. The people who are most forgiving and seem to like the film are the very people everyone was certain would hate it. People who read the books by in large are forgiving that it bears no resemblance to them. Why? Well we had a year to kind of go through the stages of grief. We wanted to like it, so we kind of talked ourselves into it. We aren't the problem though. The vast majority of popcorn devouring, soda gargling movie-goers are less well-read than we. They haven't read the series. Some might not even know there were books. They are judging the film purely on how it compares to others and whether it delivers the goods. It didn't. The audiences didn't warm up to it, or at the very least didn't find it interesting enough to drop their shiny coins in the bucket. Audiences, well-read or not, are much more sophisticated than anyone wants to give them credit for these days. They have seen a lot of movies. If you want to wow them, get them into a theater, and blow their socks off you can't just recycle the same damn story you have sold them a thousand times just by changing the names of the protagonist and generic, evil for evil's sake villain. Give them something they haven't seen, don't dumb it down, but sharpen it up and you put butts in seats.
At the very least, you have to show them something they have seen before but in a new light. Let's get down and dirty show we? How about I do a point by point breakdown comparing this film to the Last Action Hero starring big Arnold. It too is about a boy who travels to another world and brings a larger than life hero into what is supposedly the real world. That is also not a good film. My point is that it is almost the same story, albeit one played for laughs rather than melodrama. In fact, I'm betting if I put my mind to it, I could come up with TEN films which revolve around three main characters with one White Hat, one Black Hat, and one catalyst (male or female) and the stakes being the end of the world/universe. They would all have pretty much the same plot. Reluctant, jaded hero brought back to fight the big bad by the intervention of the younger, innocent or at least optimistic catalyst. I'll even go so far as to say the reluctant, jaded hero will be stoic and gruff with a heart of gold. The villain will be crazy and just appear to delight in being evil for no apparent reason. I could go on, but I won't. Most of you reading this know EXACTLY what I'm talking about and in the course of my description you are probably already on the way to filling out your own list of ten films.
1. It isn't good. It isn't terrible. It isn't bad. It is simply isn't good.
2. The Studio didn't promote it at all. Thus, even the percentage of people who might have enjoyed it didn't turn up.
3. Aside from not being good, it brought nothing new to the table. This was Hollywood schlock we have seen a 100 times.
I'm going to be brutally honest here, tell the truth and shame the devil. The people who are most forgiving and seem to like the film are the very people everyone was certain would hate it. People who read the books by in large are forgiving that it bears no resemblance to them. Why? Well we had a year to kind of go through the stages of grief. We wanted to like it, so we kind of talked ourselves into it.
We aren't the problem though. The vast majority of popcorn devouring, soda gargling movie-goers are less well-read than we. They haven't read the series. Some might not even know there were books. They are judging the film purely on how it compares to others and whether it delivers the goods. It didn't. The audiences didn't warm up to it, or at the very least didn't find it interesting enough to drop their shiny coins in the bucket. Audiences, well-read or not, are much more sophisticated than anyone wants to give them credit for these days. They have seen a lot of movies. If you want to wow them, get them into a theater, and blow their socks off you can't just recycle the same damn story you have sold them a thousand times just by changing the names of the protagonist and generic, evil for evil's sake villain. Give them something they haven't seen, don't dumb it down, but sharpen it up and you put butts in seats.At the very least, you have to show them something they have seen before but in a new light. Let's get down and dirty show we? How about I do a point by point breakdown comparing this film to the Last Action Hero starring big Arnold. It too is about a boy who travels to another world and brings a larger than life hero into what is supposedly the real world. That is also not a good film. My point is that it is almost the same story, albeit one played for laughs rather than melodrama. In fact, I'm betting if I put my mind to it, I could come up with TEN films which revolve around three main characters with one White Hat, one Black Hat, and one catalyst (male or female) and the stakes being the end of the world/universe. They would all have pretty much the same plot. Reluctant, jaded hero brought back to fight the big bad by the intervention of the younger, innocent or at least optimistic catalyst. I'll even go so far as to say the reluctant, jaded hero will be stoic and gruff with a heart of gold. The villain will be crazy and just appear to delight in being evil for no apparent reason. I could go on, but I won't. Most of you reading this know EXACTLY what I'm talking about and in the course of my description you are probably already on the way to filling out your own list of ten films.
Not a complaint, mind you, but oh god, reading your last paragraph just brought on such an overwhelming feeling of sadness at how much Roland has lost. The final volume of the books was really one damn heartbreak after another. So, so sad. If the series does in fact go on, I really want to see my hero fulfil his quest.
The film opens on Wednesday where I live. Hope I can catch it before the weekend. As much trepidation as I had early on, I'm still looking forward to seeing the film myself.
I don't think anyone who has provided a slightly positive review of this film is saying its a good adaptation. I think we are saying the same thing in different ways. Is it an awful film based on the film alone? No, not at all. It's a pretty decent action film. Is it a good adaptation? Absolutely not! I think we are all being too emotional about it and not seeing we are all saying the same thing in a different way.
The long and short of it is the film failed for three reasons, none of them having anything to do with fans who read the books.
1. It isn't good. It isn't terrible. It isn't bad. It is simply isn't good.
2. The Studio didn't promote it at all. Thus, even the percentage of people who might have enjoyed it didn't turn up.
3. Aside from not being good, it brought nothing new to the table. This was Hollywood schlock we have seen a 100 times.
I'm going to be brutally honest here, tell the truth and shame the devil. The people who are most forgiving and seem to like the film are the very people everyone was certain would hate it. People who read the books by in large are forgiving that it bears no resemblance to them. Why? Well we had a year to kind of go through the stages of grief. We wanted to like it, so we kind of talked ourselves into it.
At the very least, you have to show them something they have seen before but in a new light. Let's get down and dirty show we? How about I do a point by point breakdown comparing this film to the Last Action Hero starring big Arnold. It too is about a boy who travels to another world and brings a larger than life hero into what is supposedly the real world. That is also not a good film. My point is that it is almost the same story, albeit one played for laughs rather than melodrama. In fact, I'm betting if I put my mind to it, I could come up with TEN films which revolve around three main characters with one White Hat, one Black Hat, and one catalyst (male or female) and the stakes being the end of the world/universe. They would all have pretty much the same plot. Reluctant, jaded hero brought back to fight the big bad by the intervention of the younger, innocent or at least optimistic catalyst. I'll even go so far as to say the reluctant, jaded hero will be stoic and gruff with a heart of gold. The villain will be crazy and just appear to delight in being evil for no apparent reason. I could go on, but I won't. Most of you reading this know EXACTLY what I'm talking about and in the course of my description you are probably already on the way to filling out your own list of ten films.
It's got at least a 60% rating by audiences on RT which I said means more to me than critics earlier on this thread. I don't think that screams terrible. I agree that it didn't attract enough people to this movie. However I am surprised how many of my coworkers want to see it, despite my perceived lack of promotion. Again, it's not a good adaptation, but not an awful movie.