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KittensScareMe

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In Bevs chapter (Bev Rogan Pays A Call) After Bev escapes the witches house what does it mean when Bev says to Pennywise "The grackles know your real name"? It seemed like a good way to escape Pennywise.

And in Richies chapter (Richie Tozier Makes Tracks) when he encounters the giant Paul Bunyan statue there is a father and a toddler, when the giant Pennywise has the deep voice the toddler starts to cry, would the child have noticed Pennywise? Cause the dad didn't.
 

JMR

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I think the child notice since all kids seem to notice Pennywise. Kid fear taste best...has for adults we seem not to notice unless he wants us to....now how to the bird...well I am not 100% sure...but one of them used bird names to save them....and maybe saying they know his name throws him off....Like saying a little bird told me something... Or she was creep out it was first thing to come to mind.
 

Robert Gray

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In Bevs chapter (Bev Rogan Pays A Call) After Bev escapes the witches house what does it mean when Bev says to Pennywise "The grackles know your real name"? It seemed like a good way to escape Pennywise.

Bird imagery is subtle and appears throughout the book. There is the obvious connection to Stan of course, because all of the Losers saw him use the names of "real" birds to drive off an unnatural monster. The rabbit hole goes much deeper in regards to this question though. This is an adult Beverly whose full memories haven't come back yet, but she instinctively calls out something child-like and imbued with powerful faith, and it is faith and belief which is the monster's weakness.

In the sewers, as a child, Beverly takes control of her sexuality and saves her fellow users through the simple, old magic of love as manifested by a physical, sexual act. It is an affirmation of life. She has a sensation of flying and there is allusion to grackles and starlings there. There are inferences to the season of Spring. I believe that it is this memory and her faith in life and affirming nature of their love that is being intoned by the statement "the grackles know your real name." In short, Beverly knows love and life, and because of that she recognizes the real thing and what "isn't" the real thing. She is calling foul on the monster. It is her child-like way of saying "you are not real" in the same way Stan the man did. She doesn't have a book of birds, but she has her life experience and it is all the proof she needs to have faith.

And in Richies chapter (Richie Tozier Makes Tracks) when he encounters the giant Paul Bunyan statue there is a father and a toddler, when the giant Pennywise has the deep voice the toddler starts to cry, would the child have noticed Pennywise? Cause the dad didn't.

Children can often see Pennywise when the adults cannot. Their imaginations aren't atrophied yet. Remember, many of the creature's fantastic manifestations are illusions of a sort, and only dangerous to those who can perceive and believe in them. Even when Pennywise fully manifests so everyone can see him prancing around like a clown in the history of Derry, adults just see a clown, while many young children cry and wince. They see more. I submit that the father saw nothing because the monster wasn't fully manifested. Only those who believe can see the illusory bits of the fun house.
 

KittensScareMe

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Bird imagery is subtle and appears throughout the book. There is the obvious connection to Stan of course, because all of the Losers saw him use the names of "real" birds to drive off an unnatural monster. The rabbit hole goes much deeper in regards to this question though. This is an adult Beverly whose full memories haven't come back yet, but she instinctively calls out something child-like and imbued with powerful faith, and it is faith and belief which is the monster's weakness.

In the sewers, as a child, Beverly takes control of her sexuality and saves her fellow users through the simple, old magic of love as manifested by a physical, sexual act. It is an affirmation of life. She has a sensation of flying and there is allusion to grackles and starlings there. There are inferences to the season of Spring. I believe that it is this memory and her faith in life and affirming nature of their love that is being intoned by the statement "the grackles know your real name." In short, Beverly knows love and life, and because of that she recognizes the real thing and what "isn't" the real thing. She is calling foul on the monster. It is her child-like way of saying "you are not real" in the same way Stan the man did. She doesn't have a book of birds, but she has her life experience and it is all the proof she needs to have faith.



Children can often see Pennywise when the adults cannot. Their imaginations aren't atrophied yet. Remember, many of the creature's fantastic manifestations are illusions of a sort, and only dangerous to those who can perceive and believe in them. Even when Pennywise fully manifests so everyone can see him prancing around like a clown in the history of Derry, adults just see a clown, while many young children cry and wince. They see more. I submit that the father saw nothing because the monster wasn't fully manifested. Only those who believe can see the illusory bits of the fun house.
Back to the toddler thing, for example when ben saw the clown on the ice and a baby wandered past at that moment and glanced down they would also see the clown even though it isn't targeting them?