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The homeless

Discussion in 'Other Hot Topics' started by Riot87, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Riot87

    Riot87 Love him forever

    Do you think it is ok to give money to the homeless people? I do this sometimes. I guess i just feel bad for them.
  2. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    I always give money to homeless people. Way too much, most of the time.

    And for all of the people who say "What if they're spending it on alcohol or *gasp* drugs??" Here's my answer - I don't care. If I was homeless I probably would too. And if I'm being ripped of, well, that's my problem.

    Most Americans are just a paycheck or two away from homelessness. That's why I do it. I've been awfully close.
  3. HollyGolightly

    HollyGolightly Well-Known Member

    That's a tough one. I do sometimes. I'm better at giving my time, but that doesn't do much for the family standing on the corner at the red light. It's hard to discern what the right thing to do is.
  4. Lily Sawyer

    Lily Sawyer B-dazzled

    Yes. You can also work in a soup kitchen, hand out sandwiches from a truck or van at a public location (word gets around), or bring someone a bag of food. A friend of mine did that regularly with a homeless man she met in Washington, D.C. She used to get him out of the cold by inviting him in somewhere for a cup of coffee, having a nice conversation with him, and then handing him a $20 when it was time to go. She'd also buy a meal from some deli or fast food place and hand it to him in warmer weather.
  5. king family fan

    king family fan Prolific member

    I usually buy several of the homeless newspapers. I buy 3 or 4 of the same ones if there are more homeless people selling them.I also donate to our local food bank. Put that helps everyone in need.
  6. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    Having lived, worked and played in the shadow of NYC all my life, I have learned not to give money to the homeless. It may seem cold, but how can I be sure what happens with that money? Drugs, alcohol, etc? Not on my dime. My husband and I make a sizable donation every year to help support the homeless shelter and mission at our church. The mission serves about 1000 meals every Sunday. The shelter houses up to 20 men per evening, 7 days a week. It also has a program that takes a homeless person from the streets to interviewing for a job. They graduate about 10 people every few months. The stories these people tell are heartbreaking and uplifting.

    I know my money is doing good when I support these institutions.
  7. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    I have a guy like that outside of my grocery store. When I go in and he's there I always bring him out a bag of groceries and some water. I like him.
  8. nate_watkins

    nate_watkins Eternal Member

    I bet he likes you too... ;-D
  9. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    I give money to the homeless in the form of contributions to shelters. I don't believe that the majority of people on the corners begging are homeless. It's how they make their money, and as long as they're rewarded for it, they'll keep on doing it.

    Example. True story. Grandma and I were in San Francisco and walked past a guy playing with a kitten. His cardboard sign said, "Please help me and my kitty get some food."

    We went about our touristy ways, and a few hours later were on the sidewalk across from Fisherman's Wharf. Walked past the same guy, same kitty, same sign.

    A coupole more hours of touristy things, then we get on a city bus to go back to the hotel. Three blocks later, the same guy gets on the bus, shows the driver his monthly pass, and sits down. No sign, no cat. He was simply commuting home from work.

    Always wondered what happened to the cat. I'm not enabling that crap.
  10. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    My brother is an outdoor working guy. He and his buddy were sitting in their trucks getting ready to go back to work when a brand new Lexus pulled in the parking lot. The guy got out, looking pretty rough, got in his trunk and got out his "homeless" sign and walked from the parking lot over to a busy corner.
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  11. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    Yep. I have these stories too.

    Then I have this one:

    When I was 16 or so I was walking in San Diego with some friends. I had always heard the "people on the streets may be scamming you" so when a very dirty man came up and asked me for money, I rolled my eyes and gave him a dime.

    About 15 minutes later, I walked past him again. He was eating a sandwich. He stopped me, called me ma'am, and told me that he hadn't eaten in three days and had just gotten to San Diego and found people very rude. He was extremely close to a sandwich (within $0.10), but the little shop wouldn't let him slide. My dime allowed him to eat.

    So. That's a true story as well.

    I just personally choose to focus on the good I can do. I have so much. I can be ripped off a little if I'm helping a little as well.
  12. SutterKane

    SutterKane Well-Known Member

    There is a homeless guy who call himself "Black Foot" who lives in the woods at the end of the road I live on across the street from the gas station. For over a year I would always pass him whatever lose change I had on me when I left, sometimes a few dollars, etc etc....... One day I went to the store and had no cash on me, I was paying in debit. As I passed him I said "Sorry man, not your lucky day, I only got plastic" and he replied "Hey man, could you just pick me up a quart of beer on your way out" and I dunno, it just pissed me off. As I left I handed him a bottle of water. I think he got the point. I still hook him up here and there though, can't help it, I'm too nice for my own good.
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  13. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Just one more story. I've heard other people say, "A friend of mine," but this did happen. Grandma and I went past a ragged old guy who asked if we could help him get something to eat. We said we'd be back. He really did look down and out. We went around the corner to a favored sandwich shop, got one to go, and brought it back to him and wished him the best, and we were sincere, smiling and all. He didn't say thank you. He looked angry. Maybe he had a gluten allergy, but I knew he was thinking he can't buy stuff with a freakin' sandwich.

    So what I want to do is help the truly needy and not enable the truly exploitative. That's why I contribute to the local shelters. I'm thinking that professional beggars aren't going to the shelters, so my contribution is more tightly focused and more effective on those who need it. A dollar not spent on someone who's panhandling for a living is one more dollar I can spend on someone who's about to sleep down by the river.

    I'm not begrudging the truly kindhearted who contribute to people on the street. We need kindhearted people. I'm just too calculating, I think.
  14. VultureLvr45

    VultureLvr45 Well-Known Member

    I've got one about this subject.

    Commuting into DC, a road I travelled joined into a wealthy area; where these met was a stop light. Every day, there was one of five people in this area. Sitting at the light one morning, I see a white van pull up, four get out, with signs and head to the spots to beg. After that, I stopped giving them money. Would give them a half pack of cigarettes every time I tried to quit and maybe a granola bar in the mornings, but no moola.

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  15. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    They very well could have lived in the van. Or commuted from a homeless encampment. There's a homeless woman outside my house who sleeps in a car. That doesn't make her not homeless.

    But I always prefer to give food over money anyway! Sounds like they appreciate the stuff just as much in this case!
  16. Bryan James

    Bryan James Well-Known Member

    Failed perspective pervades.
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  17. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    I don't have a hard and fast rule. I rarely give money--I rarely carry money on me. I prefer giving food to giving money, and have in the past. I've also had food turned down, and that's the individual's prerogative. My part, as I see it and as my faith teaches, is to help where I can. Everyone is carrying their own weight; what they do with what they're given is up to them.

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...in a small town, like here-we give to the local salvation Army and the like...we KNOW the truly homeless...the Interstate on & off ramp warriors will jut have to drive their Caddy onto the next town....
  19. Autumn Gust

    Autumn Gust Well-Known Member

    I really don't carry much cash but I always give a dollar or some change to the homeless. For a few years, I made up 100 brown bag lunches and our family always distributed them on Christmas day. (I live in a city and there are a lot of homeless people who cluster together in certain parks and alleys; giving away that many lunches only takes a couple of hours.) I'd start buying nonperishables on sale in September (bottles of water, packets of peanut butter and crackers, granola bars, fruit snacks, candy bars, etc…) I live ten blocks from "Loaves and Fishes" and meet a lot of homeless people when I'm out walking the dog. I've only ever seen two drunk ones. The rest have either been very quiet or friendly and polite.
  20. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Andy and I actually passed a woman near Mansfield at an intersection (I was amazed). She had a sign saying "Single Mom with two toddlers, hungry" etc. I did not catch the whole thing she had written on a big piece of brown cardboard.

    I remember feeling embarrassed for her and sad, but all Andy could say was "Where are her two kids? Hiding in the ditch?"

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