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The homeless

Discussion in 'Other Hot Topics' started by Riot87, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    At home, with a friend, at the YMCA.....

    Poverty doesn't necessarily make one homeless. She could have had a home and this is the only thing she knows of to get money. Better than hooking, in my opinion.
  2. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    I guess you are right - it is just so sad to see people on the side of the road begging :down:
  3. swiftdog2.0

    swiftdog2.0 Elect a clown expect a circus........

    I generally do not give out cash when accosted for it. If others choose to, that is their right and I respect it.

    The one time I clearly remember giving money was to this guy panhandling just outside of Fenway Park while I was on my way to a Sox game. His sign said "Homeless. Need Money For Booze.". I gave him points for originality and honesty so I gave him my spare change.
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  4. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    This is one of my pet peeves. I see cardboard sign people patiently standing or walking back and forth by the highway. Some have backpacks. In the winter they have coats nicer than mine. Then I see them eating with their other grimy cardboard friends at freakin Golden Corral! If you can stand all day or walk back and forth all day--then you can work. I hate the ones with dogs. I double hate the ones that sit them with their kids! I gave money to a lady one time that gave me the "need money for my hotel" and I gave her a couple of bucks and she turned and walked away and she had two big black tattoos of SS insignia on each calf. I don't give anymore. Go to the local homeless shelter for kids and give books, clothes, toys.
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  5. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    That being said, I always give money to street performers.
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  6. Riot87

    Riot87 Love him forever

    What does SS stand for?
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  7. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    Not sure what it means

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  8. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    I refuse to give money to people on street corners if a) they're smoking (you got money for ciggies?????), b) they have an animal with them (you can afford pet food?????) or c) drinking (you got money for alcohol?????).
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  9. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    I swear, one time I saw a guy hold his Homeless God Bless sign with one hand and talk on a freakin cell phone in the other!
  10. swiftdog2.0

    swiftdog2.0 Elect a clown expect a circus........

    The SS were an elite unit in the Nazi regime. Those ignorant enough to have these symbols tattooed on their bodies these days are typically white supremacists and not worthy of a hand-out.
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  11. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    A) They could have bummed the smoke as well. Though they should probably wait to smoke it, granted.....
    B) No, they can't afford pet food. That's why they are begging......
    C) Do you normally see people drinking while begging? I've lived in both LA and SF, where the homeless populations are insane, and I've NEVER seen this!!!
  12. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    HAHA! That's something I do, too. If I have a couple of $, in the hat/guitar case it goes :)
  13. Out of Order

    Out of Order Need More Time

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  14. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    Hard to judge on that basis. The person could have been given the phone by a family member/friend because that's the only way they can keep in touch with them.
  15. Out of Order

    Out of Order Need More Time

    I have seen people begging who obviously HAD been drinking.........
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  16. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    I love you all, but I'm kind of surprised about how un-empathetic you are on this subject. So I have an actual, valid question that I would love those of you who seem to think that the homeless are either drug addicts or scammers -

    Do you really think that this is the vast majority or all of homeless people? Really? Or do you just not want to get "ripped off" by the few who are?

    I'm fascinated. No judgement, just truly curios.
  17. Shasta

    Shasta On his shell he holds the earth.

    Are you sure they weren't just crazy? We have a big problem here in LA of mentally ill people people who are released from other states and are sent here. The vast majority of our homeless are just insane with no resources to help, which can often make them seem like they are drunk or drug addicted.

    How do you know what someone has been doing 100%?
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  18. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Shasta, I'm both sympathetic and empathetic to homeless. However, I don't believe that most people I see on the corners begging are, in fact, homeless. And that's why I give to the shelters who offer food and refuge to the homeless. I also contribute to a couple local housing and self-sufficiency programs that do good work.

    I think we're just two sides of the coin. You, in your good-heartedness, don't mind if some of your money goes to people who aren't necessarily the right target because you will still get to folks you want to help. I don't want to enable people who are using "homeless" as a sympathy-targeted guise and give my money to more focused endeavors. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with either of our approaches.
  19. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    In my area of the country, they ask that you NOT give money to a homeless person but give it to a shelter. I don't think anyone is un-empathetic to their situation at all. Just too many people have seen the scammers, and so it does make you wonder who you are giving too. Also in my area, we have teenagers who beg for money. They are not homeless teenagers. And i know this because I know people who know them. They are standing out there getting money to party.

    It's like anything else, once you hand over that money, it's not yours anymore. So, you have to let it go and just be content that you did your part with a kind heart and that's all you can do.
  20. Out of Order

    Out of Order Need More Time

    Well, I guess you can't be 100% sure of anything.

    But, I grew up just outside of NYC and attended a lot of events there and in NY/NJ metro area. Yes, I'm fairly certain that I have seen the beggars who were drunk. Truth be known....we even drank with a few before a David Bromberg Concert in Central Park. I've seen the homeless, I've seen things in the Bowery section of NYC (back when it was very bad) that I wish I never had. I had one experience near The Bronx Zoo that still gives me troubles. I think that the homeless situation in this country is a shame and a great stain on this country. For a country to give so much of our resources to the rest of the world we certainly should be looking after our own more.

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