The Institute = The World.

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Whoever made this thread is probably long gone, given the fact that there are not any discussions here, but I would like to bring up a good point. Not a question. A Point. The Institute is so brand new that the true horror's of it many people have not even been able to really read through and if they have, then they didn't think about them. I bought the book about a week ago? I can't really remember, but it was not too long after the release date, so probably more like two weeks. The only reason I know that is because, for one, it is my first Stephen King book that I'm reading. I've seen It Chapter 1, I am currently wanting to see Chapter 2, and I also want to grab the book. I mean, come on. The idea of children coming over their fears by facing them head-on, not stopping to question, and not being able to rest? It sounds like what most of the young adults/Juniors and Seniors in high school do anyway. However. What happens when society pushes the fear facing further and now we are supposed to face them in Middle School? Do they finally face their fears in the real world or do they let them slide under the rug, only to become them one deadly afternoon in a bar, while they're drowning them away? I'd say it's the latter at this point in the game that we are all playing, but losing so badly that we've given up on winning. The Institute depicts really and truthfully what the government does not want. It's subjects (slaves) becoming smart enough to escape. I read on some sites on the day I got the book and one of them said that The Institute is King's scariest novel to date, possibly even beating It, which, is probably up for debate, but if anything the implied messages inside of It are not hidden and that is what makes The Institute much scarier than It. Movies and TV Shows slide in subliminal messages to tell us to get Doritos or some other product that are in everyday normal life, but we'd never think to get them, simply because we would normally, probably not want them, but going to a movie and then coming out to grab a bite, I'd like to challenge some of you to notice how many times you'd get a bag of Doritos or a cup/bottle/can of soda you'd normally never get in the first place, whether it be Mt. Dew, Dr. Pepper, Sprite, whatever it may be, just think about this comment the next time you go to a movie. That's not even the cusp of why The Institute is scarier than the rest, either. If anything, it is only the tip of an iceberg that we are all floating on and saying, "We're all going to be fine! Nothing bad will happen as long as we stay here!", when in reality? The iceberg is sinking and we are all about to drown. People have become so ignorant or, just blatantly oblivious to all the ****ty things, they themselves have done, so they project or they blame others for it, simply because when they are questioned about their own evils, they don't like them so they run from them. We're passed the point of living in an "It" society and now we all live in a society more like The Institute, where we are hardly surviving on the coasting, how did Luke describe it, again? "The Insitute was running off of the inertia launch energy. It was coasting on nothing, but the original propulsion." Something like that. We're all living off of that. If I'm right, then this comment will stay here, if I'm wrong, then it will be taken down quicker than one could say, "Yes, Mrs. Sigsby!" Isn't that right, Stephen? Oh, wait. I apologize. Mr. King. We live where we put meanings to words that don't need it and never really had it to begin with, but we put meaning to names too. Those like Stephen King and Tom Holland and Jake Gyllenhall, Ryan Reynolds. Those people are considered famous, but really it's only because, in a very non-religious view, they were and still are just extremely lucky. Some might have actually had to put effort into becoming famous, but if that's the case, then they really are not doing anything good. Speaking of good! What is good and what is bad anymore? Time periods do not change what a rule is and what a rule is not. Humans and people do that. We say one thing and only because it does not appease to a certain group of people we change it, because we're trying to be a free country, when in reality? There is no such thing as free. I am not finished with The Insitute, but I am 55% or more done with it and reading the book has only confirmed all of this, because I was thinking of all of this long before I read the book. I am 20, just as a disclaimer. I'm 20 years old and thinking of this stuff. This shouldn't have come, back when Stephen (again whoops! Mr. King), probably grew up, until 28-34. With a mid-life crisis just around the corner at 45-50. We kill ourselves by getting rid of the only people who see through it (as portrayed in The Institute, itself as the smart kids) so we can all just live in ignorance and "bliss", which ultimately will be our downfall. You can believe in what you want to, as long as it's what we say. You can watch what you want, as long as we allow it. You can say what you want to say, but don't actually speak your mind, please. We wouldn't want the other residents to be disturbed. You can have any job you want! As long as we find that you're fit for it. Welcome to Society (The Institute), person (because just trying to say, "sir", "ma'am", or "non-binary folk", is really just an insult at this point. An assumption (even though assuming is a part of human behavior and thought processing. It's how they help one another)), however. Now that you are here? We will not let you go. If you have any psychological problems, which, we sure you will, please. Speak to a doctor. They will hand you a pill that we say will help, even though it won't. It's just capsulated, tasteless sugar that has other chemicals and things in it just so you can feel "happy" (the shots for dots) when in reality, you can do it all on your own. We want you to be comfortable, but not too comfortable. Once you grow up (graduate) you'll be tasked with finding a job and doing everything on your own, even though we won't tell you that, we expect it (Back Half) and if you cannot serve your purpose to us, then you will be discarded (sent to the back half of Back Half). WE hope you enjoy your stay here! Stephen truly is the King of horror, I will give him that, but it's only because he sees it and talks about it so quietly that it is just as bad as watching the movies in the movie theatres to buy other people's products (light show sparklers! The trigger (which, is actually just the brainwasher (or as Luke Ellis, himself said it, "They're replacing my brain."))). This isn't something I believe in and something that I am sharing and trying to get others to believe in what sounds like a "crazy conspiracy theory". This is a stone-hard fact that has been covered up by society and anyone else who doesn't have enough balls or grit or confidence to say anything about it. This is me, however, seeing if Stephen - Ugh! My dearest apologies, where are my manners! Wouldn't want to get hit! - Mr. King is just as cowardly as the rest or if he will say what he truly does think about the world now that someone has called out his thought process on it, which, his thought process isn't even genius. It's just correct and the rest of us look at it as crazy and call it dumb or genius, because we're either too afraid to say anything and do anything or simply because you've never been exposed to it and quite frankly, I envy those who haven't, but you will be one day. It's really just inevitable. If I am a nobody, who has no college degrees to his name and has no experience to his name and I thought of this, made you think, but now you refute it, because of the no college degrees or experience, how could this 20-year-old know what he's talking about! Come back in 20 years. Tell me then, friend.
 
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I've moved your post over to the thread for THE INSTITUTE rather than leaving it in the one for Mid-Life Confidential so that we can keep discussions on topic and for the right book.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about Stephen that don't exist in reality. As somone who has known him for 33 years, I can tell you that he's much more of an optimist about society in general than you're giving him credit for.
 

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I've moved your post over to the thread for THE INSTITUTE rather than leaving it in the one for Mid-Life Confidential so that we can keep discussions on topic and for the right book.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about Stephen that don't exist in reality. As somone who has known him for 33 years, I can tell you that he's much more of an optimist about society in general than you're giving him credit for.
This is probably true. A little of what I said was just how I see what he sees. The thought process is the same, though, otherwise, you would've said that I was completely off base. I just am very straight on and blunt about it. He's not a coward for talking about it. I actually quite like that he does talk about it in any of it. NF (a Christian rapper, I know Stephen used to be Methodist but has changed his views, since going to a college class. He still believes in God, too. I agree with him in saying that religion is a dangerous tool), he talks about it. Citizen Soldier, which I am unsure if they are considered Christian or not, talk about it too. Even the person who came up with the idea for the original Heathers movie back in 1989, talked about it. However, each of them had their own ways of talking about it. Stephen talks about his in way of writing books. NF does it in rap songs. Citizen Solider does it in the rock genre. The mind behind Heathers did it in movie debut, which theirs is probably the worst form of it, considering the violence and everything it hints at and all, but that, at least to me, is the best way of showing it, because human beings are freaking terrifying things. We are a constant threat to ourselves and we don't even acknowledge it. Probably because we want to feel safe, but the funny thing is? We really aren't. I wish I had a way of getting my thoughts out on it. I'm boggled down with them and I want to write, but don't really have the time nor money to. I want to make YouTube videos, but don't have the money or space to. I want to get it out, but I am trapped and I can't. Knowing that other people have been able to get it out is awesome and it's a miracle they did. I found this entire forum in an attempt to find a possible meet and greet with Mr. King, but sadly, through this forum, I found that he does not do those. My way of telling everyone the truth is just extremely straight forward, which, in turn, makes it horrifying. Stephen in The Institute did that but gave it more of a fictional sense to it. A little cushion for those who don't want to hear the truth. There is a saying that goes, "You might not want it, but you need it."
 
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This is probably true. A little of what I said was just how I see what he sees. The thought process is the same, though, otherwise, you would've said that I was completely off base. I just am very straight on and blunt about it. He's not a coward for talking about it. I actually quite like that he does talk about it in any of it. NF (a Christian rapper, I know Stephen used to be Methodist but has changed his views, since going to a college class. He still believes in God, too. I agree with him in saying that religion is a dangerous tool), he talks about it. Citizen Soldier, which I am unsure if they are considered Christian or not, talk about it too. Even the person who came up with the idea for the original Heathers movie back in 1989, talked about it. However, each of them had their own ways of talking about it. Stephen talks about his in way of writing books. NF does it in rap songs. Citizen Solider does it in the rock genre. The mind behind Heathers did it in movie debut, which theirs is probably the worst form of it, considering the violence and everything it hints at and all, but that, at least to me, is the best way of showing it, because human beings are freaking terrifying things. We are a constant threat to ourselves and we don't even acknowledge it. Probably because we want to feel safe, but the funny thing is? We really aren't. I wish I had a way of getting my thoughts out on it. I'm boggled down with them and I want to write, but don't really have the time nor money to. I want to make YouTube videos, but don't have the money or space to. I want to get it out, but I am trapped and I can't. Knowing that other people have been able to get it out is awesome and it's a miracle they did. I found this entire forum in an attempt to find a possible meet and greet with Mr. King, but sadly, through this forum, I found that he does not do those. My way of telling everyone the truth is just extremely straight forward, which, in turn, makes it horrifying. Stephen in The Institute did that but gave it more of a fictional sense to it. A little cushion for those who don't want to hear the truth. There is a saying that goes, "You might not want it, but you need it."
No, I'm not going to do a point by point response or say you're wrong about the comments in your post as they are your opinions and you're entitled to them. It is the truth as you see it and if others don't agree with you, that's okay, too.