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GNTLGNT

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Mr Nobody

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That the one with the tourists, the Mayan temple, the weird flora and the peed off natives?
If so, yep, I've seen it. I kept thinking it'd kick into proper life in a minute, and I was still waiting when the end credits rolled.
I'd not read the book then - and I've not read it since, come to that - but the film left me with the strong impression that it hadn't done the source material full (or any kind of) justice.
 

kingricefan

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That the one with the tourists, the Mayan temple, the weird flora and the peed off natives?
If so, yep, I've seen it. I kept thinking it'd kick into proper life in a minute, and I was still waiting when the end credits rolled.
I'd not read the book then - and I've not read it since, come to that - but the film left me with the strong impression that it hadn't done the source material full (or any kind of) justice.
Nope, this is pretty much the same reaction I had to the book. It just didn't cut it for me. I read Smith's first book 'A Simple Plan', which blew me away, and after taking 4 or so years to come write a new book, my expectations were high. The book was a let-down for me. The one thing I remember from the movie is the one male lead had a killer bod.
 

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Nope, this is pretty much the same reaction I had to the book. It just didn't cut it for me. I read Smith's first book 'A Simple Plan', which blew me away, and after taking 4 or so years to come write a new book, my expectations were high. The book was a let-down for me. The one thing I remember from the movie is the one male lead had a killer bod.

Well I guess that's saved me reading it. :grinning:
Amended to "Idea - good. Execution - below average".
 
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Toni_S_UK

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I am reading the book now, I have nearly finished; I have seen the movie, the book has been better but not blown me away.

I read it after seeing it come up again and again where people had said it was really scary/disturbing..

I think when you read/watch so much horror its hard to find a book that is genuinely scary.

What are Scott Smith's other books like? Anyone read any?
 

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I saw the movie. It was ok. What funny is my sister had my son over this when first came to Video so he was around eight. They stay up late to watch and didn't tell me. I saw few weeks later and my sister told me they watch it. My son shouted shhhhh at my sister and said if mommy knows I like it she will make me watch more horror movies. He even wanted little venues fly trap after seeing movie. He also told me he knew it was fake and that If I watch it more then once not to worry.
 

kingricefan

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I am reading the book now, I have nearly finished; I have seen the movie, the book has been better but not blown me away.

I read it after seeing it come up again and again where people had said it was really scary/disturbing..

I think when you read/watch so much horror its hard to find a book that is genuinely scary.

What are Scott Smith's other books like? Anyone read any?
Scott Smith has only written one other book, which was his first, called A Simple Plan. For a first novel it blew me away. The premise is basically how far would you go to keep a secret? It was also made into a very underrated movie starring Bill Paxton and Billy Bob Thornton. Stephen King raved about the book and even went on one of the morning talk shows with Scott Smith to defend the book because one of the reviewers (I think it was for the New York Times) gave it a very bad review.
 

kingricefan

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Same here. I agree with you about the movie adaptation, too.
I've read/heard that the big scene where Billy Bob's character bares his soul to Bill Paxton was pretty much all ad lib from Billy and the director just let him go on and say those things because he knew something magnificent was happening while they were filming. Billy Bob tapped into some really deep, dark childhood repressed feelings about his relationship between himself and his own brother. In the book that scene doesn't have half the dialogue as in the movie- there's nothing in the book about how Billy's character thought that his brother was the good looking one and he (Billy) was not attractive at all. It was heartbreaking for me to watch that scene because I knew that Billy was talking about his own life. That man should have received an Oscar for that part.
 

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I've read/heard that the big scene where Billy Bob's character bares his soul to Bill Paxton was pretty much all ad lib from Billy and the director just let him go on and say those things because he knew something magnificent was happening while they were filming. Billy Bob tapped into some really deep, dark childhood repressed feelings about his relationship between himself and his own brother. In the book that scene doesn't have half the dialogue as in the movie- there's nothing in the book about how Billy's character thought that his brother was the good looking one and he (Billy) was not attractive at all. It was heartbreaking for me to watch that scene because I knew that Billy was talking about his own life. That man should have received an Oscar for that part.
Wow, I'll have a new awareness the next I watch that scene. I saw a fascinating documentary about him and he talked about how he idolized his brother. I think he grew up in Arkansas but I'm not sure. His performance in A Simple Plan felt organic and real, it was definitely underrated.