Tidbits about Authors

[MadamMack]

I recently saw Saving Mr. Banks and wanted to know more about P. L. Travers . . . so I went searching and found a sad statement made by her grandkids after she died.

According to her grandchildren, she died loving no one and with no one loving her.

I thought that was so cold to say, even if it’s true.

It made me tear up.

 

[GNTLGNT]

...she was a harsh woman, and reaped what she sewed...horribly sad....

 

[kingricefan]

Guess I won't be seeing this movie anytime soon....

 

[MadamMack]

...she was a harsh woman, and reaped what she sewed...horribly sad....

She was but still . . .

 

[MadamMack]

Guess I won't be seeing this movie anytime soon....

It's a good movie but they didn't really show all the true sides of Disney or her. Disney smoked a lot and she was believed to be a lesbian. They didn't show Disney smoking because it would have caused the movie to be rated R.

 

[GNTLGNT]

She was but still . . .

...Oh yeah Char, unless you're evil incarnate-there should be a little love for you somewhere, that's why I said it was so sad...

 

[GNTLGNT]

It's a good movie but they didn't really show all the true sides of Disney or her. Disney smoked a lot and she was believed to be a lesbian. They didn't show Disney smoking because it would have caused the movie to be rated R.

...which is stupid, because smoking was a normal everyday thing for a large percentage of the populace then...I just watched some old episodes of the Dean Martin show with my wife and folks the other night, and there's Deano and his guests just puffing away....why rate something "R" just because it was an accurate reflection of the time???...and as far as her being a lesbian?...that I can understand, because that was hidden away and not talked about then-nowhere near as accepted as it is today-even though we still have a long way to go...

 

[Lisey Landon]

...which is stupid, because smoking was a normal everyday thing for a large percentage of the populace then...I just watched some old episodes of the Dean Martin show with my wife and folks the other night, and there's Deano and his guests just puffing away....why rate something "R" just because it was an accurate reflection of the time???...and as far as her being a lesbian?...that I can understand, because that was hidden away and not talked about then-nowhere near as accepted as it is today-even though we still have a long way to go...

I was afraid to ask about this, as I find it very strange to rate something R for that. Is smoking really considered that "bad" in the US? I am just asking, this is very interesting for me. Europe has quite a few laws against smoking inside public buildings, restaurants, bars, everywhere where non smokers can be exposed to unwanted second hand smoke. But, here in Germany, we can still go to smokers bars, and many restaurants have rooms for smokers, so we don't have to go outside to smoke. The airport in Hamburg even have little glass rooms beside the gates, so that we smokers can get some fresh air before boarding.

 

[GNTLGNT]

...it's gotten to be very socially unacceptable for many here honey...I'm a smoker myself, and have been amazed at the shrinking spaces-other than home or vehicle-where we might light up....whole properties are being declared smoke-free, even the out of doors portions....it's a bit hypocritical, they want the over-inflated taxes from our habit-but then leave us nowhere to smoke...and I consider myself a courteous smoker...I will do my level best to not do it around those that don't care for it...

 

[Lisey Landon]

...it's gotten to be very socially unacceptable for many here honey...I'm a smoker myself, and have been amazed at the shrinking spaces-other than home or vehicle-where we might light up....whole properties are being declared smoke-free, even the out of doors portions....it's a bit hypocritical, they want the over-inflated taxes from our habit-but then leave us nowhere to smoke...and I consider myself a courteous smoker...I will do my level best to not do it around those that don't care for it...

It's going the same way in Scandinavia, with Sweden as the most extreme, and Norway on a very close second place. I actually started smoking after having stopped for more than 6 years, because I was annoyed with the restrictions the new laws has made, that makes it totally acceptable to harass smokers. Yeah. I'm a rebel, living on the edge!

 

[MadamMack]

...which is stupid, because smoking was a normal everyday thing for a large percentage of the populace then...I just watched some old episodes of the Dean Martin show with my wife and folks the other night, and there's Deano and his guests just puffing away....why rate something "R" just because it was an accurate reflection of the time???...and as far as her being a lesbian?...that I can understand, because that was hidden away and not talked about then-nowhere near as accepted as it is today-even though we still have a long way to go...

Exactly.

 

[MadamMack]

I grew up in a smoke-filled house and smoked myself for over 20 twenty years. I gave it up and I feel it's the best thing I ever done. I also found that my temperament was calmer once I did. I don't knock smokers but I do dislike seeing cig butts everywhere and I don't care for the scent. But, I understand.

Any movies made to reflect the time period when smoking was considered cool should ring true. There's no use in hiding the truth.

 

[Dana Jean]

I grew up in a smoke-filled house and smoked myself for over 20 twenty years. I gave it up and I feel it's the best thing I ever done. I also found that my temperament was calmer once I did. I don't knock smokers but I do dislike seeing cig butts everywhere and I don't care for the scent. But, I understand.

Any movies made to reflect the time period when smoking was considered cool should ring true. There's no use in hiding the truth.

This was me too. grew up with a house of smokers. I smoked for probably 6 to 8 years and I just saw a pile of cigarette butts in the library parking lot not more than 20 minutes ago. Made me so angry, but more for the littering aspect. I understand too.

 

[Dana Jean]

This was me too. grew up with a house of smokers. I smoked for probably 6 to 8 years and I just saw a pile of cigarette butts in the library parking lot not more than 20 minutes ago. Made me so angry, but more for the littering aspect. I understand too.

Plus, I think cigarette butts are extremely dangerous to birds. I think sometimes they swallow them, and then the filters swell and the nicotine.... bad news.

 

[MadamMack]

Plus, I think cigarette butts are extremely dangerous to birds. I think sometimes they swallow them, and then the filters swell and the nicotine.... bad news.

Maybe . . .I know that discarded gum is really bad on birds.

 

[Mr Nobody]

I grew up surrounded by smokers. Mom, Dad (until he quit), my grandparents...
Yet, I've never smoked. I never wanted to. I think a lot of that was coming from a 'poor' (in the financial sense) household. There were times where we had to be quiet and hide from the callers (which created issues for later life; both my sister and I jump when we receive unexpected visitors, and we've admitted to each other that our first instinct now is to hide). Yet, somehow, there was always money for cigarettes. And then, whenever we visited my grandparents, there was always a visible 'fug line' in the room as they all puffed away.
For all that, though, I was broadly against the indoor smoking ban (workplaces, pubs, restaurants and shops are all smoke-free areas these days). Where there's food...OK. But in pubs? Daft, and despite non-smokers saying they'd go into pubs more often if it wasn't for the smoke, no end of pubs closed in the first year or two post-ban, because it turned out the one who were crying loudest were the ones who didn't actually want to go into pubs anyway.
Smokers can still go outside, though, and I have to say I find it a bit daft that you can't smoke in outdoor areas over there.
'No smoking! Suck down exhaust fumes instead. No carcinogens in them, no, sir!'

 

[HollyGolightly]

The forces that control us are insane I swear. I had no idea smoking made a movie rated "R" - seriously, America? I don't smoke daily, or even weekly or monthly. But we always have a pack in the house. Sometimes things just call for a smoke.

 

[MadamMack]

I grew up surrounded by smokers. Mom, Dad (until he quit), my grandparents...
Yet, I've never smoked. I never wanted to. I think a lot of that was coming from a 'poor' (in the financial sense) household. There were times where we had to be quiet and hide from the callers (which created issues for later life; both my sister and I jump when we receive unexpected visitors, and we've admitted to each other that our first instinct now is to hide). Yet, somehow, there was always money for cigarettes. And then, whenever we visited my grandparents, there was always a visible 'fug line' in the room as they all puffed away.
For all that, though, I was broadly against the indoor smoking ban (workplaces, pubs, restaurants and shops are all smoke-free areas these days). Where there's food...OK. But in pubs? Daft, and despite non-smokers saying they'd go into pubs more often if it wasn't for the smoke, no end of pubs closed in the first year or two post-ban, because it turned out the one who were crying loudest were the ones who didn't actually want to go into pubs anyway.
Smokers can still go outside, though, and I have to say I find it a bit daft that you can't smoke in outdoor areas over there.
'No smoking! Suck down exhaust fumes instead. No carcinogens in them, no, sir!'

Sounds just like my household . . .If I'd asked for something that cost money I'd always hear, 'We Po People, ain't no money for that' . . .but there was always money for cigs and booze. And we always hid from the bill collectors. Sometimes I'd have to answer the door and lie about my parents not being home . . .I don't like unexpected visitors either.

 

[kingricefan]

I quit when the price for a pack of ciggies hit $5. At that time I smoked a little less than a pack a day- it really does add up to a crazy amount to pay to someone to slowly kill you. I don't care if someone smokes, but within the last year or so I have noticed that I can smell it on people who do smoke and I don't like it. It's been 5 years now and I really do feel better physically. I wish I could get my sister to quit.

 

[mustangclaire]

It's going the same way in Scandinavia, with Sweden as the most extreme, and Norway on a very close second place. I actually started smoking after having stopped for more than 6 years, because I was annoyed with the restrictions the new laws has made, that makes it totally acceptable to harass smokers. Yeah. I'm a rebel, living on the edge!

Interesting point you raise Lisey. Here in the UK smoking is deemed unacceptable ANYWHERE. They phased out "smoking rooms" here years ago. Now, you are not even allowed to smoke on the premises. When we went to Portugal last year on holiday, I expected to still see a lot of locals smoking etc, like in Greece. However, hardly anyone "foreign" seemed to be smoking (us Brits, Irish etc) as I really do believe the idea of smoking around non smokers has now become socially unacceptable. And I can honestly see I didn't see the Portugese smoking like billy-o either. I really did think because you "could" smoke openly over there, foreigners (ie us holiday makers) would be chuffing like steam trains, but they didn't. I no longer smoke cigarettes (use e-cigs) and was interested to see. Sorry for the ramble!!