Worst Superhero movie ever??

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danie

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C'mon, cats, dig deeper. How about 1990's direct-to-video Captain America? This is a weird one, at least cast wise. First up, we got Matt Salinger as Cap. Yeah, that 'Salinger' kid, as in J.D.'s son. For a director we have Albert Pyun, whose only decent flick (but heavy on cheese) is THE SWORD AND THE SORCERER. Ned Beatty (Superman, Squeal Like A Piggy). So far, so 'good' (if a trifle weird). Now here's where it starts getting promising; Darren McGavin (A Christmas Story, Kolchak: The Night Stalker) as a General Fleming, who remembers Cap from his war days when he was played by an old Billy Mumy (Lost In Space). I mean, in the right hands, this could go places.

But they frack it all up. The Red Skull is Italian (which makes no sense continuity wise), Cap's ears are part of his mask (like, fake, latex rubber ears). The effects are Corman style shoestring. No Bucky. I've read Lawrence Block as co-writer (!?!). Can't be the same Block, no. Unless all his contributions were hacked and chopped.

Sux. Just like that Dolph Lundgren PUNISHER (ugh, no deaths head skull, riding his Harley in the sewers?). In fact, all the Punishers sucked.

Now if you cats wanna talk made-for-TV 70s you best pack a lunch and take a seat.
How about John Wesley Shipp as the Flash?
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Anyway....

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace or something like that. I think it was a deal with Christopher Reeve to let him tell his story. If so, he told an awful one, and the special effects were just terrible and especially jarring after the good stuff (for its time) in the first couple.

Nobody mentioned Daredevil? Did not care for.

Tried to watch Elektra, couldn't. Same with Catwoman. Same with Nicholas Cage as the flaming skull guy. Bad enough I didn't even try to catch any sequel(s), ever.

Agreed with the trash-throwing at Batman and Robin. It was a what-were-you-thinking level of bad.

I haven't caught any of the newer Superman or Batman movies. Well, the first one with Christian Bale and Liam Neeson, I think? We liked it okay, but it just had a level of heartlessness that kept us from seeing sequels.

Guilty pleasure: Spawn.
 

danie

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Anyway....

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace or something like that. I think it was a deal with Christopher Reeve to let him tell his story. If so, he told an awful one, and the special effects were just terrible and especially jarring after the good stuff (for its time) in the first couple.

Nobody mentioned Daredevil? Did not care for.

Tried to watch Elektra, couldn't. Same with Catwoman. Same with Nicholas Cage as the flaming skull guy. Bad enough I didn't even try to catch any sequel(s), ever.

Agreed with the trash-throwing at Batman and Robin. It was a what-were-you-thinking level of bad.

I haven't caught any of the newer Superman or Batman movies. Well, the first one with Christian Bale and Liam Neeson, I think? We liked it okay, but it just had a level of heartlessness that kept us from seeing sequels.

Guilty pleasure: Spawn.
If you have not seen The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger as the Joker, then I'm not sure we can remain friends.
 

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If you have not seen The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger as the Joker, then I'm not sure we can remain friends.

Oh, that's the one we saw and liked enough - and Heath Ledger did an amazing job - but it didn't motivate us to watch any others in the system. Just a little too much
wanton brutality, like surgically implanting a bomb, blowing up a hospital, and so on
to make it a series that would draw us in.
 

danie

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Oh, that's the one we saw and liked enough - and Heath Ledger did an amazing job - but it didn't motivate us to watch any others in the system. Just a little too much
wanton brutality, like surgically implanting a bomb, blowing up a hospital, and so on
to make it a series that would draw us in.
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Jackal.S.Rogue

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You all know these are meant to be kids movies right? The was nothing wrong with Batman And Robin while it along with most of the other ones are kinda ridiculous aren't they supposed to be? Same with The Fantastic Four, it was fine the way it was (as a kids movie) the fact that they are remaking it is terrible.
I have the same opinion on most of the movies that have been mentioned, the only problem is that they're not being viewed as what they are, adaptions of cartoons.
 

Jackal.S.Rogue

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I'm not even gonna touch that one, hoss. Oh my stars and garters!

But what the hell; sure, say they are 'just meant for kids'. Does that mean they have to suck? And by all accounts, BATMAN AND ROBIN is an insult to any child's intelligence. C'mon, nipples on the Batsuit?

Intelligence has nothing to do with the Batsuit or any of the costumes. Is it logical to put a cape on any of them? It'd get caught on just about anything. And have you actually asked a kid what they think of the movie?
 

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Well, sure. If we take it to the logical extreme, it's all silly. There is no way that the average superhero (whatever that is) could have that amount of energy expenditure and/or defy the laws of physics in any kind of real world.

So we're lured in by the story, the characters, by our wish to believe in magic or its equivalent, and that combines to bring about the good ol' willing suspension of disbelief. I remember the old (well, not to me) tagline of the first Christopher Reeve movie: "You'll believe a man can fly!" Well, no. We'll agree to believe that a particular man can fly within the couple hours that we're sitting in front of the screen. We don't honestly believe that someone can propel themselves through the air with no means of thrust, who is immune to gravity and inertia.

But that belief comes with an agreement: In exchange for our forking over the ticket price and maybe buying the goodies that actually make the theater money, we will be met with a good story, compelling characters, and enough quality cinematic trickery to accept the physical impossibility of it as real for that screen time. If the story fails, if the characters leave us cold, if the effects suck or are too outlandish, then we feel cheated.

For Grandma 'n' me, if the storyline contains death and destruction past a certain level of volume or style, then it's just one we don't enjoy. Yeah, we know it's fantasy. It's all fantasy. But we've agreed to suspend that knowledge, and we can't just accept that this guy who would be so much squashed pulp in real life is valid, but the bystander who was just violated and ripped to shreds is not. The movie may have great characters, it may be presented in high-quality fashion, it may be hugely popular with people of all ages, but can still have elements that are just not to our tastes. So vive la différence! in what grabs people in the movie-going public. If a movie pulls in viewers, or drives them away, then it deserves what it gets.
 

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Intelligence has nothing to do with the Batsuit or any of the costumes. Is it logical to put a cape on any of them? It'd get caught on just about anything. And have you actually asked a kid what they think of the movie?

My son thought Batman's nipples were stupid.

Ah heck, I can sit through old BATMAN AND ROBIN, I spose. Where else can you see a sweet cat fight between Uma Thurman and Alicia Silverstone dressed as Poison Ivy and Batgirl?

My main concern is the outdated mindset that anything comic book related must be laughed off as children's fare. Gets my dander up, so it does. That kind of thinking led to Fredric Wertham, the Comics Code, and the hobbling of a respectable art form.

But don't mind me, I'm a little nutty about comic books.
 

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The first direct to video Punisher with Dolph Lundgren was pretty awful.

Gave up on the Batman stuff after Michael Keaton bowed out up until the reboots with Christian Bale.

Never really liked the Marvel stuff except for Spider-Man, Blade, and the first Iron Man. Disney owning Marvel leads me to thick we are in for a string of terrible films......
 
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The Walking Dead is the best comic-to-TV/Movie, IMHO......but this thread specifically says "Superheroes".......

.....I dont really have an opinion here (for once)......but Im really sick and tired of all the Batman reboots, side-projects, redos, updates, etc, etc..........The 1989 movie was good enough - stop there!! --Yeesh! Talk about trying to reheat a soufflé over and over and over.......