The Walking Dead ***please use SPOILER tags***

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cat in a bag

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I thought it was a good finale. When we get to see them again, I think Carol and Tyreese will be the heroes. They will have seen what happened with Rick and his group from outside. This will get Carol back in Rick's good graces. (I am stubbornly holding onto the hope that Carol isn't the murderer from the prison though. Haha)

That just leaves Beth. If she will be back or if we just will always wonder what happened to her.
 

arista

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I thought it was a good finale. When we get to see them again, I think Carol and Tyreese will be the heroes. They will have seen what happened with Rick and his group from outside. This will get Carol back in Rick's good graces. (I am stubbornly holding onto the hope that Carol isn't the murderer from the prison though. Haha)

That just leaves Beth. If she will be back or if we just will always wonder what happened to her.
I think that Carol admitted and had no reason to lie regarding the murderer. However, I think she did for a good cause.
 

skimom2

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I totally agree! Rick was smart enough to leave weapons outside, why wasn't he smart enough to leave Daryl and Carl outside?!
I think it was worry that splitting up would weaken them--two groups of two are weaker than one group of four (not that it ultimately mattered). Plus, he's not losing sight of Carl again--think what they just went through. I know, as a parent, that my kid would be right next to me for a VERY long time after such a traumatic event.
 

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A crossbow? A katana? LOL... Gotta love the dramatic effect for television I guess.


Personally, put in the situation of having to travel light and protect one’s self mostly in close quarters, I would chose one Smith and Wesson Governor (which handles 6 rounds of either .410 2½" shotgun shells or .45 ACP), and one Glock 30 - .45 ACP with laser light; and a machete for when one wants to get up front and personal.

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skimom2

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Yeah, we can do that. One person's meat is another one's survivor, I guess (to torture an expression 'til it squeals), and it's not like I won't be watching next season!

I like the idea of them being taken in their sleep, though. The whole disarmament thing bothers me mainly because yeah, they disarmed Rick and Co...but then promptly gave them their weapons back. Could be that different rules applied to the groups, given that Rick's group was limited to pistols, a crossbow and a katana while the others had rather more serious bits of kit - but if Glenn's mob had their weapons returned you've got a couple of scenarios, each as unlikely as the other: 1) the Terminus lot did the herding thing, very high-risk considering the firepower Glenn et al had, or 2) they willingly laid down their weapons and walked away...which would be fine, I guess (though in that world, I'm trusting no one I haven't known for ages - and maybe not entirely even then), but for the presence of the soldier, who would have been trained better (I hope) and wouldn't have meekly handed over his weapon to a group of unknowns. All in all, drugged food or simply waiting for them to doze off would have been a better, safer option for the Terminus crew and would offer a better explanation.
Either way, it didn't need to be shown, but a couple of lines of dialogue would have done the trick. Waiting until next season to find out something so relatively trivial...nup, just get it done. It's not suspenseful, just annoying - the difference between a wasp buzzing around in your eyeline (will you get stung? suspense!) and a gnat (annoying!).

Having watched it back for a second time, the thing that really bugs me about Joe's demise is how similar it was to the Governor. Back before the mid-season break, you had those eps catching up with his story and throwing out the idea that here, maybe, was something new - a strand showing his redemption, etc. Of course it didn't take long for him to revert to type, but offing the one guy who knew him better than to fll for his 'nice' persona still made sense if he wanted to really bury the past.
Good actors were cast in the new group (they must be lining up just to appear...) and then...gone. Done with. That two hours you spent watching the catch-up stuff? Gone for good, and it really added nothing to the character in the end.
It's the same trick with Joe and his lot. Bring 'em along in lengthy bits of an ep or two, get you wondering, then have them gone inside a few minutes. It smacks too much of padding to get to the episode count, laziness, or both - though at least the final ep with the Governor ended in a satisfying way and advanced the story.

I was wondering too if the Terminus group were going to separate any kids from their old groups and assimilate them into their own. That might not happen, but if it did...isn't what Carol did a shame? ;;D

LOL! I think the whole Governor thing this season was a misstep. They split their forces in creating the baddie for this season--better to anticipate/dread Terminus (or get them to Terminus and end with more resolution this season) than deal with that lingering goob. It's a damn shame they wasted David Morrissey (or at least diluted a good performance by splitting it into two seasons). It reminded me of what they did with THOR 2: wasted Eccleston as a workable villain because fangirls swoon over Hiddleston. I like him and his character, but they emasculated their superhero movie (and wasted another good actor) by losing their villain. Dumb ways to weaken a storyline--lol
 

skimom2

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A crossbow? A katana? LOL... Gotta love the dramatic effect for television I guess.


Personally, put in the situation of having to travel light and protect one’s self mostly in close quarters, I would chose one Smith and Wesson Governor (which handles 6 rounds of either .410 2½" shotgun shells or .45 ACP), and one Glock 30 - .45 ACP with laser light; and a machete for when one wants to get up front and personal.

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The problem with relying on guns/rifles is ammunition, especially as time goes on and most obvious places have been swept and emptied. I wonder why they don't use a reloader, though, when they're in a fixed area. They shouldn't be difficult to find in the rural south (hunters abound), and I can't imagine that at least Daryl and Rick would be unfamiliar with the mechanics.

And why don't they use bikes? Not Daryl's big stupid noisy as hell hog, but actual bikes? Faster than walkers, don't need gas, easier to fix than a car/truck... They could take a lesson from Mr. King (and Tom Cullen and Nick Andros--lol).
 

arista

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The problem with relying on guns/rifles is ammunition, especially as time goes on and most obvious places have been swept and emptied. I wonder why they don't use a reloader, though, when they're in a fixed area. They shouldn't be difficult to find in the rural south (hunters abound), and I can't imagine that at least Daryl and Rick would be unfamiliar with the mechanics.

And why don't they use bikes? Not Daryl's big stupid noisy as hell hog, but actual bikes? Faster than walkers, don't need gas, easier to fix than a car/truck... They could take a lesson from Mr. King (and Tom Cullen and Nick Andros--lol).
M-o-o-n that spells we ride bicycles to get around. This does make a lot more sense. I am with the theory that the people of terminus probably had drugged Maggies group. I sure hope that they don't find out what they were eating YIKES!
 

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I just find it so hard to believe that out of TWO groups of survivors, neither of them left anybody outside just in case it was a trap. That scientist guy might be a dweeb, but he's smarter than that. The soldier should be, too. And so should the survivors like Glenn and Maggie. I just find it hard to swallow that they all just waltzed right into it.

QFT
 

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One thing,talking about the shortage of ammo,you have to remember the vast majority of people have died off,either from the sickness or zombie attack.The world should be filled with weapons, canned foods, etc..wish the writers would explore that a little, show us some big stashes of goodies..