NY prison break comparisons?

Let's just hope that The Langoliers or The Stand never happen.......

And The Mist..hate big nassty spiders,gollum,gollum..

Brooks said:

Glad to see that the NY state prison escape was resolved over the weekend.

It made me think of two stories (both favorites) by SK that could be compared to the drama of the story:

Shawshank Redemption: Obvious choice but the details are eerily similar. Cutting through the back of the cell, moving across and down a catwalk, then breaking into a sewer line and then "crawling through foulness I can't even imagine". Both set of escapees were heading for a border but in different directions.

Running Man: Another great story and these prisoners (like Ben Richards) had a 10-12 hour head start before all hell broke loose and the manhunt began. Of course, Sweat and Matt weren't earning money and the ending was different, but somewhat comparable.

Anyways, just food for thought.....

Brooks

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Neither one of those guys looks like Tim Robbins or Ahhhhnold.

This article says they used pepper to throw the sniffing dogs off, like in the movie "Cool Hand Luke"

Why it took 23 days to catch David Sweat: Pepper - Yahoo News

Those kinds of comparisons might tend to glorify these guys. They were both cold-blooded murderers. It's fortunate this has been resolved without anyone else getting harmed. I read the surviving prisoner could be subject to 23 hours of solitary confinement every day for the forseeable future. Imagine that bleak existence.

Life imitating art. Wonder what was in the prison library.

I wonder if they are working on the movie of this yet.

Anyone recall when Ted Bundy was escaping from the various jails where he'd been held? At the time, some people were getting a rise from his escapes. I guess before they realized what kind of animal he was. Good riddance. Sumbitch also murdered a number of people after escaping. Gas em all.

RichardX said:

Those kinds of comparisons might tend to glorify these guys. They were both cold-blooded murderers. It's fortunate this has been resolved without anyone else getting harmed. I read the surviving prisoner could be subject to 23 hours of solitary confinement every day for the forseeable future. Imagine that bleak existence.

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No sympathy on my part. I read that Sweat ran over a sheriff's deputy, shot him 22 times, then ran over him again. Too bad they just wounded him in his capture.

John

...I see the comparisons, but only care that one sh*thead is dead-and that they didn't terminate the other....now to obliterate those who allowed this happen and facilitated same....job loss and imprisonment at the very least...

RichardX said:

Those kinds of comparisons might tend to glorify these guys. They were both cold-blooded murderers. It's fortunate this has been resolved without anyone else getting harmed. I read the surviving prisoner could be subject to 23 hours of solitary confinement every day for the forseeable future. Imagine that bleak existence.

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Imagining that bleak existence is what is supposed to prevent people from doing the horrible things which lead to it.

I won't pretend to understand why some people are born psychotic or others become so (if, in fact, they do), we're just going to have to accept the fact that bad people exist and do the best we can to protect ourselves from them and them from themselves (if and when we can).

The far more troubling aspect of this case was how much help these two appear to have had from the very people charged (and paid) to protect us from them.

If you put me in prison, I will try to escape. You should expect that.

If you give me authority and responsibility over prisoners. I will see to it that they do not escape. You should expect that, too.

Sadly . . . not everyone is me.

Brooks said:

You work in a prison, correct? Can you give us any insight on how a prison employee would even consider trading favors with a prisoner for sex, art work (yeah, Matt was an excellent portrait artist and trade art work), etc. I don't want to lump all correction officers but I'm sure you are constantly being told "no interactions with prisoners!". And this was a max security prison. Crazy!

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...I am a Registered Nurse in a Medium Security State Correctional facility, comprising in excess of 2,500 inmates and around 300 or so employees(which are split amongst three shifts)...it is an all male population, and given that I am heterosexual-I find no physical attraction to any of the inmates...however, if I were at a women's prison-I might not be so lucky...inmates of either gender OR persuasion are master manipulators for the most part-preying on those that are weak in character and emotion...they study us for hours and weeks on end...listening to and picking apart any snippet of information they can overhear and plying it to their advantage...other staff are attracted by the high risk/high reward of smuggling in contraband-be it tobacco, drugs, phones etc....for example-one former employee at my prison was let go several years ago for brining in cigarette tobacco...he was allowed to resign because such tobacco is not illegal on the street-just in the Correctional facilities...but before he left he had made several thousand dollars in just a couple of weeks being a "mule"...doesn't matter the security level, it's a constant game...and yes, we have to interact it's part of our job-but there are appropriate and inappropriate interactions...

Perhaps Giant can speak on this as well:

I've talked to people who have spent what I would consider "serious" time in prison and many of them offer the opinion that the COs are locked in just as surely as the inmates, despite getting to go home for a little while.

Pucker said:

Perhaps Giant can speak on this as well:

I've talked to people who have spent what I would consider "serious" time in prison and many of them offer the opinion that the COs are locked in just as surely as the inmates, despite getting to go home for a little while.

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...indeed...your mentality changes, as well as your personality...I have become much less tolerant of many things and my compassion has nearly vanished....

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...indeed...your mentality changes, as well as your personality...I have become much less tolerant of many things and my compassion has nearly vanished....

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I've had a similar experience since I became a cop. It's taken some real effort not to become a total cynic. I was warned about this many years ago, but didn't really believe it would happen to me. However I prefer being out in the field rather than locked up with them. But it takes all types. I know several county jail deputies and a few state corrections officers who think I'm crazy for being on patrol. It's an overused word but we really are part of a team.

Checkman said:

I've had a similar experience since I became a cop. It's taken some real effort not to become a total cynic. I was warned about this many years ago, but didn't really believe it would happen to me.

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When I worked for the military police back in the 90s, it was a real eye opener for me - I think you just see so much sordid stuff that after a while you do become a bit jaded.

p.s. I was just the admin. clerk, not an MP!