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not_nadine

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Now I must have coffee and go to coffee thread.


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Dana Jean

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GNTLGNT -- I'm not really sure where to post this to you, I suppose I could pm you, but I thought others might like to hear your answers too as your field is so interesting.

Scott, I am reading a book right now called The Good Death. An Exploration of Dying in America. In it, she talks about prison hunger strikes and various other situations that might have to be handled much differently in a prison setting.

1. Have you had to deal with a prisoner and their hunger strike?
2. Have you had to force feed them, or what policy would your prison follow on this?
3. Does your prison have a hospice program?
4. Since drugs and addiction are concerns in prisons, do you guys tend to not give pain meds to hospice people the same way a person on the outside would receive them? I know you would not be insensitive to pain, but apparently there is a concern of prisoners hoarding pain meds for various reasons. selling, trading, or perhaps suicide.
5. Is HIV a huge problem in your prison, and how do you protect yourself from an angry prisoner who has HIV/AIDS and uses it as a weapon besides the basic gloves, mask etc....
6. There is consensual sex going on in prisons, but is rape reported? And what is done for that prisoner as protection from it happening again.
7. What is done to the rapist?
8. Do you have prisoners who are handicapped (wheelchair bound or other) and how are their needs met in the prison setting?

9. Is your state one that allows for Doctor assisted death for the terminally ill?

These are all topics that the author, Ann Neumann, brings up and I found somewhat frightening and interesting. I would appreciate your answers very much. Thanks.

Edited to add: Your job is very stressful and you must have constant vigilance. I hope you are able to leave all that at work when you go home at night.
 
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TheRedQueen

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Random Thought of the Day:

Moms are like bouncers. They stand around, watching their kids and waiting for them to do something wrong, at which point they swoop in and intervene. And when the kids are behaving, mom still casts a stink eye in their direction, because she knows it's only a matter of time.... ;;D
 

GNTLGNT

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GNTLGNT -- I'm not really sure where to post this to you, I suppose I could pm you, but I thought others might like to hear your answers too as your field is so interesting.

Scott, I am reading a book right now called The Good Death. An Exploration of Dying in America. In it, she talks about prison hunger strikes and various other situations that might have to be handled much differently in a prison setting.

1. Have you had to deal with a prisoner and their hunger strike?
2. Have you had to force feed them, or what policy would your prison follow on this?
3. Does your prison have a hospice program?
4. Since drugs and addiction are concerns in prisons, do you guys tend to not give pain meds to hospice people the same way a person on the outside would receive them? I know you would not be insensitive to pain, but apparently there is a concern of prisoners hoarding pain meds for various reasons. selling, trading, or perhaps suicide.
5. Is HIV a huge problem in your prison, and how do you protect yourself from an angry prisoner who has HIV/AIDS and uses it as a weapon besides the basic gloves, mask etc....
6. There is consensual sex going on in prisons, but is rape reported? And what is done for that prisoner as protection from it happening again.
7. What is done to the rapist?
8. Do you have prisoners who are handicapped (wheelchair bound or other) and how are their needs met in the prison setting?

9. Is your state one that allows for Doctor assisted death for the terminally ill?

These are all topics that the author, Ann Neumann, brings up and I found somewhat frightening and interesting. I would appreciate your answers very much. Thanks.

Edited to add: Your job is very stressful and you must have constant vigilance. I hope you are able to leave all that at work when you go home at night.

1. Most certainly I have....they will house them in our building.....and they have all been for some kind of paltry secondary gain, rather than something they believe in/stand for....what I mean is, "I'm not going to eat anymore, cuz you won't move me from that Dorm" for example...an adult version of holding their breath till they turn blue...

2. A Hunger Strike is declared after the inmate misses 9 consecutive meals, liquids do not count...and if they should consume something-then it all re-sets and starts over. We do not force feed them at an Institution level...they are monitored until they begin to suffer health problems, and if they persist in not eating-then they are transferred to our state medical hospital where they would be IV fed until they succumb or choose to begin eating again

3. None of the Institutions have a local Hospice effort, and our Department is just now exploring a "Compassionate Release" program, which amounts to sending terminal inmates home to their families....otherwise, we do what we can-again at one of the facilities set up for end of life care....it's not Hospice, but at least they are kept as comfortable as we can in the prison setting.

4. Those that are in need of end of life pain care receive it, but on my level, the strongest drug we give out on any regular basis is Ultram.....all of the narcotics have been removed from our formulary due to abuse issues.....our biggest hassle right now, from a security standpoint is Suboxone....the equivalent of Methadone which comes like Breath Strips, and is easily smuggled.....

5. Yes, HIV and Hep C are our biggest issues and we have no way of protecting ourselves other than common sense and Universal Precautions-gloves, gowns, masks etc.

6. We have, and abide by the Prison Rape Elimination Act....PREA...
The Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003 (PREA) is the first United States federal law passed dealing with the sexual assault of prisoners. The bill was signed into law on September 4, 2003. Public awareness of prison rape is relatively recent and estimates of its prevalence vary widely.
This has been around forever, but Ohio is now a mandatory participant and it has made it easier to report sexual assault, AND escalate false reports too sadly.....the victim seems to stay at our Institution, but if the offender is known-they are sent through the criminal process and removed to a higher security level prison....
7. Hopefully tried, convicted and given more time....and if possible, it's let slip what was done-and prison justice can also come into play.....

8. Yes we do, and there is a specific camp for the worst of them-where they are handled much like anywhere on the streets in a care facility.....

9. No, we don't have MD assisted suicide

...as to the last point-some days are easier than others, and at one point, I had become such a reflection of my environment(angry, sullen, violent)-that it nearly cost me my marriage.....I have learned to laugh most of it off, with dark humor being my savior....
 

Dana Jean

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1. Most certainly I have....they will house them in our building.....and they have all been for some kind of paltry secondary gain, rather than something they believe in/stand for....what I mean is, "I'm not going to eat anymore, cuz you won't move me from that Dorm" for example...an adult version of holding their breath till they turn blue...

2. A Hunger Strike is declared after the inmate misses 9 consecutive meals, liquids do not count...and if they should consume something-then it all re-sets and starts over. We do not force feed them at an Institution level...they are monitored until they begin to suffer health problems, and if they persist in not eating-then they are transferred to our state medical hospital where they would be IV fed until they succumb or choose to begin eating again

3. None of the Institutions have a local Hospice effort, and our Department is just now exploring a "Compassionate Release" program, which amounts to sending terminal inmates home to their families....otherwise, we do what we can-again at one of the facilities set up for end of life care....it's not Hospice, but at least they are kept as comfortable as we can in the prison setting.

4. Those that are in need of end of life pain care receive it, but on my level, the strongest drug we give out on any regular basis is Ultram.....all of the narcotics have been removed from our formulary due to abuse issues.....our biggest hassle right now, from a security standpoint is Suboxone....the equivalent of Methadone which comes like Breath Strips, and is easily smuggled.....

5. Yes, HIV and Hep C are our biggest issues and we have no way of protecting ourselves other than common sense and Universal Precautions-gloves, gowns, masks etc.

6. We have, and abide by the Prison Rape Elimination Act....PREA...
The Prison Rape Elimination Act of 2003 (PREA) is the first United States federal law passed dealing with the sexual assault of prisoners. The bill was signed into law on September 4, 2003. Public awareness of prison rape is relatively recent and estimates of its prevalence vary widely.
This has been around forever, but Ohio is now a mandatory participant and it has made it easier to report sexual assault, AND escalate false reports too sadly.....the victim seems to stay at our Institution, but if the offender is known-they are sent through the criminal process and removed to a higher security level prison....
7. Hopefully tried, convicted and given more time....and if possible, it's let slip what was done-and prison justice can also come into play.....

8. Yes we do, and there is a specific camp for the worst of them-where they are handled much like anywhere on the streets in a care facility.....

9. No, we don't have MD assisted suicide

...as to the last point-some days are easier than others, and at one point, I had become such a reflection of my environment(angry, sullen, violent)-that it nearly cost me my marriage.....I have learned to laugh most of it off, with dark humor being my savior....

Yes. you MUST laugh. Even at the things that are so tough to laugh at.
 

Neesy

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Random Thought of the Day:

Moms are like bouncers. They stand around, watching their kids and waiting for them to do something wrong, at which point they swoop in and intervene. And when the kids are behaving, mom still casts a stink eye in their direction, because she knows it's only a matter of time.... ;;D
Just saw a brave woman while I was out shopping - she had four kids - three walking and one she was pushing around - wow - I got tired just from watching her trying to keep them all under control.
 

Doc Creed

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I wish this killer headache would go away - it feels like my skull is being squeezed in between the two halves of a vice grip.
I've noticed lately that drinking 3 or 4 bottles of water quickly as I can makes my headache disappear. It is really weird. But it works. You can take Ibuprofen, too, but the water works. Give it about 45 minutes.
 
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