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DiO'Bolic

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Nov 14, 2013
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How do you know if you’re doing right by your kids? Will the decisions you make for them ultimately help or hurt them in the future?

Yesterday evening my daughter, who will be starting her sophomore year of college in two weeks, and I had a long talk. She is exceptionally bright and talented but has always been a square peg trying to fit into the round hole of life.

She suffers from a minor disability. Certain noises like chewing, sniffling, heavy breathing or snoring, and such, enrages her. She has gone through professional therapy to help her deal with her challenges. Through the college’s disability department she is provided a dorm room that has a common area, kitchenette and bathroom, but also has separate private bedrooms (Unfortunately the room is $2,000 more per semester than regular dorm rooms). The ability to get a room like this (unique to this college) was one of the top reasons she chose this college over more prestigious others across the nation (including two Ivy League schools) who didn’t have similar accommodations, that recruited and threw six figure scholarships at her. We agreed with her when she chose this college that she probably wouldn’t be able to get though four years in a traditional college housing setting, and because the college was rated high for the two programs she was most interested in... Math and English.

Her doctor informed us that his tests show she is quite gifted and is both right and left brain dominant. I don’t really understand all of it, but supposedly it has something to do with why she excels at both mathematics and creative subjects like art and writing.

Yesterday she received in the mail an invitation to join the most elite organization at her college. Apparently this organization sends the invitation to a handful of sophomores. Those evaluated by the college, the professors, department heads, alumni, and the organization’s committee on students determined to be the ones that have the most potential to make a real difference in the world. Supposedly belonging to this organization almost guarantees one’s success after college through their influence, contacts, alumni and connections. Could a parent be any more proud?

She originally wanted to go to college to become a teacher. She wanted to major in English and minor in art. I convinced her (she says forced) to go for a degree in education, majoring in mathematics and to minor in English, and to take art classes as her free electives. Throughout her high school years her gifted teachers told me if this kid doesn’t peruse a degree in mathematics at college she would be wasting a god given talent. I do admit the fact that the scholarships she was offered were best if she majored in math, and it had a lot to do with my guidance. She resented me for almost a year because she felt I forced her into her college program all because of money.

After her first semester she decided she didn’t want to stay in the education program because if she was going to teach it would be at the post-graduate level and she didn’t need to be in the teaching program to achieve that goal. She changed her major to Math with a minor in biology.

Last night she told me she is very grateful I forced her into majoring in math. She says she really enjoys the challenges of the college math program and her future after college is bright. I was happy to hear that but also saddened because I see her passion for writing and art disappearing. When she was younger she created (for her age) some outstanding short stories, poetry and art. But she never felt they were good enough and threw everything away. She even was published after a teacher sent a class poetry project (without her knowledge) into an organization that puts out a yearly publication of the best high school student poetry across the nation. I used to rummage through her trash can on garbage night and pull out her works. I have a drawer in a file cabinet filled with them, that she doesn’t know about. One day she caught me going threw her trash and said it was an invasion of her privacy and had me promise never to do it again.

I try and convince her to join writing, poetry and art clubs at college to keep the passion alive, but she isn’t that interested in it anymore. I also wanted her to try and go after scholarships for writing that would put some requirements on her, in order to keep her passion for that arts alive, but she didn’t want to. I now wonder if I’m to blame for maligning her creative abilities.

And how I seem to breed a bunch of bleeding heart liberals is beyond me. ;) She informed me she was contacted over the summer from the director of housing (she is friends with his daughter, and whom is a fellow student), and was asked if she would be so kind as to agreeing to room with a student he was unable to find a roommate for. A transgender (biological female), who would be a freshmen this year. The college, parents, and therapists of the student all felt the student needed to have a roommate that would be positive, supportive, understanding, and would help with the unique challenges faced through the freshmen year being away from the comfort level of home. My daughter agreed to room with the student, but was afraid of how we felt about the situation. We were supportive of her decision and said it is not the makeup of a person, but the character of a person that really matters. That we are all unique people and my daughter could probably be a good roommate because she knows what it is like being a square peg in a round hole. Also, my daughter did belong to a diversity club the first semester of her freshmen year that had a focus that semester on transgenders. One thing I did require of my daughter, though, is if she has a problem with the roommate because of my daughter’s medical condition, that she would need to request another roommate... just as she would any other roommate. That she was not to be afraid that others might label her biased or a hater because she didn’t want to room with a transgender. That her own college experience was to take priority over anyone else’s experience. She agreed (hmmm... we’ll see).

And now, because of a clerical error just discovered yesterday, she was not provided her student loan for the costs not provided through her scholarships. It will take weeks to sort the problems out. And I have to come up with an additional $5,000 within a week that I was not prepared for. I got an old Jeep the other week for the two youngest daughters to share for their summer jobs and we were hit with a lot of medical bills over the summer that used up all the discretionary funds. I had taken on a second job to help pay for colleges, but am in-between seasons with the second job and it won’t be for another couple of weeks until I go back. Seems I’ll have to rob Peter (with penalties) in order the pay Paul. Oh well, no one ever said life would be easy. And somehow I will get it done.

Thanks for listening... Father’s random rant over. :)
 

Spideyman

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May I address the writing, poetry and art--all passions of your daughter which she has chosen to put aside to concentrate on the math and science. In my opinion, in no way have you maligned her creative abilities. They are her passion and passions do not leave. They may hide or withdraw for a period of time, but they are always there ready to surface when the time is right. Who knows what future uses of her passions will bring. Math is a form of art.

How proud you must be for all her accomplishment in life. This proves, in many ways, the guidance and caring your have given to her. After reading your post, the words that came to mind were: wow, what an amazing daughter. What a great dad to guide and still allow choices.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul has become a way of life for many. I will hold you to positives that all will work out financially.
May your daughter have only love and green lights in her college life.
 

DiO'Bolic

Not completely obtuse
Nov 14, 2013
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May I address the writing, poetry and art--all passions of your daughter which she has chosen to put aside to concentrate on the math and science. In my opinion, in no way have you maligned her creative abilities. They are her passion and passions do not leave. They may hide or withdraw for a period of time, but they are always there ready to surface when the time is right. Who knows what future uses of her passions will bring. Math is a form of art.

How proud you must be for all her accomplishment in life. This proves, in many ways, the guidance and caring your have given to her. After reading your post, the words that came to mind were: wow, what an amazing daughter. What a great dad to guide and still allow choices.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul has become a way of life for many. I will hold you to positives that all will work out financially.
May your daughter have only love and green lights in her college life.
Thank you. How very kind. I try and convince myself of all the things you noted, but the doubts remain and I can't shake the feeling that I might have steered her wrong. But for the first time in her life, she really seems happy and positive with what all that is going on. I have never seen her smile as much as I have witnessed over the last month. And that makes me most happy.
 

DiO'Bolic

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I guess we know which side of the family DiO's daughter got her smarts from.......:biggrin-new:

Thanks for being a good Father. Not an easy thing to do for sure.
Can’t disagree with you on the brains part. Wife’s side of the family is the math side. Mine is the artistic side. No idea where the creative writing comes from... Mailman, maybe? :)

Thanks, and in regards to parenting... we do our best and cross our fingers, and try not to strangle them in those 15-16 year old years, I guess.
 

GNTLGNT

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Thank you. How very kind. I try and convince myself of all the things you noted, but the doubts remain and I can't shake the feeling that I might have steered her wrong. But for the first time in her life, she really seems happy and positive with what all that is going on. I have never seen her smile as much as I have witnessed over the last month. And that makes me most happy.
....nothing like seeing your child truly happy....
 

staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
Nov 28, 2006
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Found this vid of old group from Canada I do not know. Nice song, though. Wow...it is good.
watch
 

80sFan

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DiO, I think one of the best ways to tell if someone is a good parent is if they're worrying if they are a good enough parent.
Sounds like you're doing everything possible to help your family (in many ways, not just financially) and as parents there is ALWAYS something (often many things) to worry about, but sounds like you have the "good parent" thing under control, so don't worry about that one. :)

PS...very glad to see you on here again!
 

FlakeNoir

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Random thoughts.... (and probably rambling, I don't have a lot of time and might not make sense!)

Even though my big and mostly big teens hate on each other most days and always try to go one up... yesterday I heard the 18-year-old quizzing the 15-year-old in the "have you got's" before his first mock exam:

1) Got a good pen and a spare? (yes, do I also need my scientific calculator?)
2) Yes. Got fresh batteries in your calculator? (no... Muuuuuum?!)
3) Got a spare clear plastic bag for your phone? (yes, where do I put it during the exam?)
Answer... under your desk.
4) Have you been doing trig, did you study?
I stopped actively listening then, probably didn't want to hear the answer... :biggrin2:

Also... I failed miserably today in the 'organised working mum stakes'

Last night the 8-year-old and I baked a chocolate cake for the bake sale at school today. We iced part of it last night and got up early this morning and decorated it with a daffodil as every year on "Daffodil Day" we raise money for the cancer foundation.
He worked like a little trooper and we finished on time, after loading the washing machine and doing the dishes and putting the dogs in the car, we zipped off to school and he proudly carried in his cake to show his teacher before taking it to the room for judging before it would be cut up and sold for the charity.
As we walked in, the kids gathered around admiring his cake... and then one of them said, "Daffodil Day is next Friday."

:facepalm_smiley:

On the plus side, my little boy's class will be enjoying chocolate cake today during "circle time".

:O_O:

Daffodil Day.jpg
 

Spideyman

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Random thoughts.... (and probably rambling, I don't have a lot of time and might not make sense!)

Even though my big and mostly big teens hate on each other most days and always try to go one up... yesterday I heard the 18-year-old quizzing the 15-year-old in the "have you got's" before his first mock exam:

1) Got a good pen and a spare? (yes, do I also need my scientific calculator?)
2) Yes. Got fresh batteries in your calculator? (no... Muuuuuum?!)
3) Got a spare clear plastic bag for your phone? (yes, where do I put it during the exam?)
Answer... under your desk.
4) Have you been doing trig, did you study?
I stopped actively listening then, probably didn't want to hear the answer... :biggrin2:

Also... I failed miserably today in the 'organised working mum stakes'

Last night the 8-year-old and I baked a chocolate cake for the bake sale at school today. We iced part of it last night and got up early this morning and decorated it with a daffodil as every year on "Daffodil Day" we raise money for the cancer foundation.
He worked like a little trooper and we finished on time, after loading the washing machine and doing the dishes and putting the dogs in the car, we zipped off to school and he proudly carried in his cake to show his teacher before taking it to the room for judging before it would be cut up and sold for the charity.
As we walked in, the kids gathered around admiring his cake... and then one of them said, "Daffodil Day is next Friday."

:facepalm_smiley:

On the plus side, my little boy's class will be enjoying chocolate cake today during "circle time".

:O_O:

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Oh, FlakeNoir . you did not fail in organized working mum skills. Instead you brought joy to a classroom filled with children/ You brought Spring to a Winter's day. What a beautiful cake!

As Danie said, in the states most schools do not allow home baked good anymore. Has to be store bought, not from the bakery, but wrapped and labeled.

Circle you calendar for next Thursday so you can bake another Daisy Cake.:wink: My there be much success for the charity.
 

Dana Jean

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Apr 11, 2006
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Random thoughts.... (and probably rambling, I don't have a lot of time and might not make sense!)

Even though my big and mostly big teens hate on each other most days and always try to go one up... yesterday I heard the 18-year-old quizzing the 15-year-old in the "have you got's" before his first mock exam:

1) Got a good pen and a spare? (yes, do I also need my scientific calculator?)
2) Yes. Got fresh batteries in your calculator? (no... Muuuuuum?!)
3) Got a spare clear plastic bag for your phone? (yes, where do I put it during the exam?)
Answer... under your desk.
4) Have you been doing trig, did you study?
I stopped actively listening then, probably didn't want to hear the answer... :biggrin2:

Also... I failed miserably today in the 'organised working mum stakes'

Last night the 8-year-old and I baked a chocolate cake for the bake sale at school today. We iced part of it last night and got up early this morning and decorated it with a daffodil as every year on "Daffodil Day" we raise money for the cancer foundation.
He worked like a little trooper and we finished on time, after loading the washing machine and doing the dishes and putting the dogs in the car, we zipped off to school and he proudly carried in his cake to show his teacher before taking it to the room for judging before it would be cut up and sold for the charity.
As we walked in, the kids gathered around admiring his cake... and then one of them said, "Daffodil Day is next Friday."

:facepalm_smiley:

On the plus side, my little boy's class will be enjoying chocolate cake today during "circle time".

:O_O:

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That looks so pretty! White, yellow or chocolate cake?
 
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