2015 The Year of Living Old School/Technological Discrimination

[Neesy]

I ordered both versions- yours and the 'Artists' edition. Was notified a week before Christmas that it was 'shipped' and it hadn't shown up so I checked the tracking number and that's when I found out it has been sitting in a warehouse somewhere after being picked up from Cem Dance's warehouse.
Don't mean to make you feel bad that you got yours already, luv. I hope you truly enjoy it alot! Now, you'll be bitten by the 'limited edition' bug and will have to get these types of books now!! Are you planning on getting the rest of the 'Doubleday' limiteds that Cem Dance is going to do?

No - I only ordered this because I did not own this book by Stephen King. This is kind of freaky, as the very first book I read of his was the original Carrie back in the 70s! (should have hung on to that one but had no idea it would be worth a lot today)

Weirdly enough Andy bought me a paperback copy of Carrie for Christmas - the new one that just came out not that long ago, which means he must have been listening when I told him it was a book of his I did not have and that I could not find it anywhere.

 

[kingricefan]

No - I only ordered this because I did not own this book by Stephen King. This is kind of freaky, as the very first book I read of his was the original Carrie back in the 70s! (should have hung on to that one but had no idea it would be worth a lot today)

Weirdly enough Andy bought me a paperback copy of Carrie for Christmas - the new one that just came out not that long ago, which means he must have been listening when I told him it was a book of his I did not have and that I could not find it anywhere.

At least he listens, eh? Better hang onto that man!!

 

[Van Blaricum]

Neesy, I own an emergency phone, it dials 911 even without phone service!

 

[do1you9love?]

For you guys who ordered UPS delivery, they have been hit hard with not having enough trucks to make the deliveries. We have seen them driving rental trucks (Budget, Hertz, etc.) and even had one deliver to my mom's house in a long black sedan (limo/hearse) looking thing, but still wearing that brown uniform. Hopefully now that the holidays are done, your books will arrive soon!

 

[carrie's younger brother]

I think I'm older than you all. My dad grew up in a home that didn't have a telephone.... or plumbing or electricity or a furnace or a toilet.

Things just progress.

When cars came around, there were people who used them and people who saw no good reason to give up horses. Look where we are now.

When phones came around, there were people that used them and people who saw no good reason to use such things when any information they had could wait until they could talk to people or mail them. Look where we are now.

Let me shortcut a metric ton of examples, because you can see where I'm going. You can forego TV, or cell phones, or smartphones, or all kind of connectedness - but years from now, what you're turning a cold shoulder to will be part of history that has already been built up and taken for granted. And you can certainly do that, but don't be surprised or upset when you find yourself out of the casually accepted and adopted cultural mainstream.

As for being completely technophobe - I must assume everyone here has at least a handshaking familiarity with the Internet (what's that, we would've asked in the '80s) or you wouldn't be here.

Very well said.

 

[Kingfisher]

The irony of being against technology while transmitting information through the Internet is almost palpable.

You're either in whole hog or you're not in at all, if you can dig it

 

[Grandpa]

The irony of being against technology while transmitting information through the Internet is almost palpable.

I was thinking about this. I've had online debates with anti-science people before and have said any number of times, "You realize that you're using the very fruits of the process and the industry that you're decrying in order to decry them, right?"

You're either in whole hog or you're not in at all, if you can dig it

Oh, I think it can be nuanced. I have friends who like TV and get it for free from local stations or Netflix. But they don't want the cable or satellite services. It's too much TV for them. Or friends who have a cellphone but don't want a smartphone because that's too connected. They want some kind of break. Si I would say they're in it, but not whole hog.

 

[Van Blaricum]

The irony of being against technology while transmitting information through the Internet is almost palpable.

You're either in whole hog or you're not in at all, if you can dig it

Maybe someone didn't do the reading.

I never said I was AGAINST technology. I am against taking technology to extremes just because everyone else is, and I am against being made to feel that I must get something I don't really need, like a cell phone, to be able to register a gift card. I am also against being made to feel like I am some second class citizen because I am not keeping up with the tech Joneses.

And it's your polar thinking exactly, that is the problem I am talking about. See, I find being able to answer business emails and take business calls pressing. So I have a land line phone, and a PC. But I do not find having a large screen television necessary for me, when I can just download a movie on my PC. And I don't find people being able to just reach out and touch me anytime of the day, no matter where I go, necessary. I also don't find it necessary to carry an electronic device with GPS activated to constantly tell a variety of companies where I am, and where I'm shopping. Nor do I find it necessary that in order to have a friendship that you be able to text me fifty times before you're finally able to show up for coffee at the appointed time or place. And neither is it necessary for me to own a cell phone just to register a gift card. But apparently, to Visa it is.

I am not a battery for capitalism to suck the life out of.

In order to feel cool and keep up with the rest of the world, I do not need to keep buying and upgrading electronics every time a new one comes out. I do NOT need a Tele AND a cell phone, AND a tablet, AND a Kindle and an iPod. The waste from the electronics used by Western society is taken to dumps in developing nations where marginalized people become victim to environmental racism.

Everyone preaches moderation in technology here, well, me using some technology, that which suits me, is moderation to me, and I decided last night that if someone can't be my friend because I don't own a big screen TV and a Wii and an iPhone to text them on all day, too bad, they don't have to be my friend.

And I repeat, I do NOT want to repeatedly see people taking pictures of themselves in bathroom mirrors to upload to Facebook. That is just skanky. People ask me why I don't have a lot of " selfies " on the internet. Oh, maybe I don't because I'm not a self absorbed narcissist? At least, not that kind.

To each their own. One day if all this technology some how fails for some reason, at least I will be able to live without being hooked up to a bunch of machines.

I am determined not to cave in 2015.

 

[Kingfisher]

So, you're against waste and damage to the Earth, but you rounded up a few televisions and promptly destroyed them because...? It could have been recycled. Someone in need (or should I say what, do to your views?) could have used them. You're presenting what can only be called a conflicting mindset.

As for people taking selfies, so? Do you really feel it's necessary to call people names? That's rude.

 

[Van Blaricum]

So, you're against waste and damage to the Earth, but you rounded up a few televisions and promptly destroyed them because...? It could have been recycled. Someone in need (or should I say what, do to your views?) could have used them. You're presenting what can only be called a conflicting mindset.

As for people taking selfies, so? Do you really feel it's necessary to call people names? That's rude.

I threw some teles off a bridge 18 years ago, sound the alarm, call the environmental police! Nowadays I pick up litter off the road side. I guess everyone grows up sometime. As for someone in need " needing " my junk boxes, no, no one " needs " a tele. Lol. Talk about self righteous...

I'm not presenting a " conflicted mindset " that was then and this is now. Please do not try to tell me I am confused. I am not.

Please leave your pseudo analysis of my psyche at the door.

I'm sorry I wasn't aware I called you a name.

And I call it like I see it. If you took five hundred pictures of yourself in bathrooms this year and loaded them all onto Facebook you're a narcissist.

 

[meaghan]

I think that all the folks who walk around oblivious to the world around them because they are busy in their cell phone should knock it off. Its rude. Same with texting and driving, using your phone while you are being waited on in line, and ignoring people while you are in a social setting to play on your device. Its also really nice to have a world of information at your fingertips. I love being able to answer a basic question in seconds. That's handy. Or being able to watch what I want on TV when I want. That's nice too. It rocks. Being a martyr to certain technology and announcing that you have picked and chosen the wisest way to use technology is all a personal matter. There is no one size fits all in my opinion. Its all a learning experience to find what works for you individually and what's not ever worth your time.... ever. We all need something different from what technology provides. I think the best way to go about finding out what works for you is old fashioned trial and error. but hey... experimenting has always been fun for me. Except when it hasn't...haha

 

[Kurben]

For me I think technology as a whole is a good thing. It is not wrong to have many choices to choose from. What you choose is up to you and all is good as long as you are happy with the choices. The Problem is more our tendency to almost drown ourself in new technology (always looking at your smartphone, driving while texting and so on) and let it overwhelm us sometimes. I have a TV but i seldom watches it and i have a cell that can do a heck of a more things then i can figure out. It doesn't really matter to me as long as it can do what i want which is basic functions like phone and store numbers, mails and adresses to friends. It works as a calender and a clock. Sometimes i text with it and occasionally i have taken a photo. I can search the net if it is something i want to find out but seldom do from my phone. It is not technoogy that is to blame but the people overusing it. A new technology is an oppurtunity but must of these can be used in a good or a bad way. basically, it is up to us.

 

[Grandpa]

From my view, the drive of human advancement has centered around convenience/advantage. It's more convenient, easier, safer, to take a yak down with spears or bows and arrows than with clubs. It's more convenient to print up 2,000 copies of a manuscript in the time it used to take to copy down one. It's more convenient to have a method of transportation at your beck and call that you don't have to feed and shovel manure from. And so on.

We reach a level of convenience, and we go for the next. We've hit a level of technology where convenience and advantage are proceeding faster than some people have time or desire to adapt to it. That's fine. No one says we all need to proceed at the same pace. In fact, we never have.

For me, having answers and tools at the ready all the time gives me a time advantage for productivity and a competitive advantage for availability. Those advantages make me enjoy it, with the benefits being greater than the burdens it brings. For others, they don't have those same needs or desires. That's fine. We're different people, and we do and enjoy different things.

 

[Van Blaricum]

I must say I went to a club last night to hear a band play. A guy outside told me to put my little onesie puffer away ( 420 ) and handed me a strange flute like object that had hash oil in it, AND a USB port on the side. It was a magical little electrical hash oil flute. Knocked my socks goddarned socks off. *

Then afterwards I came home and checked my email to see if the sexy EMT/fireman I am seeing had emailed me. Yea baby! As much as technology peeves me, I love internet dating because I now have more more options on how to reach out and find myself a " Calender guy "

All good uses of technology. If I offended anyone in this post, then I am sorry for upsetting people with my cavaliere attitude towards technologies, but in retrospect I guess I have sort of a weird phobic relationship with technology and strange, strained relationships due to technology and my issues with technology. I need to work on that.

*disclaimer This product is legal for medicinal use where I live!

 

[GNTLGNT]

But did the turtles stop and say hi when they crossed by you????

...nope, but I caught me a chicken once!...

 

[skimom2]

You're either in whole hog or you're not in at all, if you can dig it

Nah. Moderation is possible, and there's nothing wrong with picking and choosing which aspects of tech are useful to each individual. I don't find a disconnect between using the internet for my work and entertainment, but limiting where I choose to go and what information I choose to share. I certainly use and enjoy Netflix and Hulu, but I don't feel a need to watch them on a huge flat screen or to buy a multi $K computer to watch/play games/whatever. I like the convenience of my limited cell phone, but feel no need to have a smartphone. I'm not judging those who do, either. It's all a matter of choice. It is frustrating to try to have a meal or a conversation with someone who won't put down the damn phone, and endless selfies and updates on the minutae of someone's life don't interest me at all, but that's personal. I avoid people tho do any of those things=problem solved

 

[staropeace]

Nah. Moderation is possible, and there's nothing wrong with picking and choosing which aspects of tech are useful to each individual. I don't find a disconnect between using the internet for my work and entertainment, but limiting where I choose to go and what information I choose to share. I certainly use and enjoy Netflix and Hulu, but I don't feel a need to watch them on a huge flat screen or to buy a multi $K computer to watch/play games/whatever. I like the convenience of my limited cell phone, but feel no need to have a smartphone. I'm not judging those who do, either. It's all a matter of choice. It is frustrating to try to have a meal or a conversation with someone who won't put down the damn phone, and endless selfies and updates on the minutae of someone's life don't interest me at all, but that's personal. I avoid people tho do any of those things=problem solved

I agree. I just do not feel TV has anything to offer me. I enjoy the computer because it is interactive. I hate cellphones cause, basically, I cannot hear them ring. I do not like to talk on the landline either.

 

[Neesy]

Neesy, I own an emergency phone, it dials 911 even without phone service!

Okay - it is not just for 911 I must admit! I do text my son's fiancee plus now and then the hairdresser calls to remind me of a hair appointment, etc.

Now that I think of it, there have been times I even go on there to post on the SKMB so maybe I should not even be in this particular thread!

I am just not one of those people you see with their head down, walking along with their eyes glued to the phone screen.

The other day both my son and I went out without our phones and [surprise!] we survived!

 

[Neesy]

I must say I went to a club last night to hear a band play. A guy outside told me to put my little onesie puffer away ( 420 ) and handed me a strange flute like object that had hash oil in it, AND a USB port on the side. It was a magical little electrical hash oil flute. Knocked my socks goddarned socks off. *

Then afterwards I came home and checked my email to see if the sexy EMT/fireman I am seeing had emailed me. Yea baby! As much as technology peeves me, I love internet dating because I now have more more options on how to reach out and find myself a " Calender guy "

All good uses of technology. If I offended anyone in this post, then I am sorry for upsetting people with my cavaliere attitude towards technologies, but in retrospect I guess I have sort of a weird phobic relationship with technology and strange, strained relationships due to technology and my issues with technology. I need to work on that.

*disclaimer This product is legal for medicinal use where I live!

You must be in Amsterdam or some other place where marijuana is legal!

 

[Van Blaricum]

I live in a state that recently legalized medicinal use. It will only be legal to possess the oil and vaporize. I will be eligible for a prescription as well. This guy I met at the club said there's already a dispensary on the N side. The little electric hash oil vaporizer he had is the legal tool for prescriptive use. Small amounts of ganja, less than two g. are not sought for prosecution where I live, thus decriminalized. You carry two g. on you here and you get a traffic ticket and they throw it away. Pretty soon I'll have my prescription. Otherwise, I cheat for now and live by the unwritten two g. rule.