The Hot Zone is great!!!
I'm personally unafraid about an Ebola outbreak in the U.S. We're still a very knowledgeable, self-protective country when it comes to stuff like this.
Ebola Coming to the U.S.
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I'm personally unafraid about an Ebola outbreak in the U.S. We're still a very knowledgeable, self-protective country when it comes to stuff like this.
I read The Hot Zone and The Cobra Event. Scary, an eye opener.
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...again, unless he comes in DIRECT CONTACT with body fluids, he is at no risk...
You mean like getting sneezed on? Sitting beside some jerk on a plane?
All it takes is one person walking round not knowing they've contracted it....and people are rude when they are sick.
Last flight he was on, he's still on antibiotics from.
All it takes is one person walking round not knowing they've contracted it....and people are rude when they are sick.
Last flight he was on, he's still on antibiotics from.
I'm sorry, I just have to be irreverant amidst all this serious stuff...
Every time I see this topic thread in the list of threads, I read it like an advertisement for Ebola:
"Ebola... Coming to the US! Be sure not to miss out! Details to follow!"
I apoligize if I offended anyone.
Every time I see this topic thread in the list of threads, I read it like an advertisement for Ebola:
"Ebola... Coming to the US! Be sure not to miss out! Details to follow!"
I apoligize if I offended anyone.
Neesy
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Yeah - for just a second I thought the same thing (like for a nanosecond) - Coming to the US! Act now! (while quantities last)... Limited time offer (and if you act now, we will throw in an extra one (for no extra charge!)I'm sorry, I just have to be irreverant amidst all this serious stuff...
Every time I see this topic thread in the list of threads, I read it like an advertisement for Ebola:
"Ebola... Coming to the US! Be sure not to miss out! Details to follow!"
I apoligize if I offended anyone.
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mjs9153
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It is a terrible scary disease, but agree with Gnt and blunt, two people, with what they have today for precautions, shouldn't be a big deal..more worried about another kardashian or American idol series multiplying than this..
The aid workers who contracted it were US Citizens. So they should be able to come home to be treated. I am scared though, because it only takes one person to screw up the works and you have a deadly virus running through our biggest cities. Universal Precautions... what about the laundry? Do the sheets get burned? How about the person lucky enough to clean the isolation room after the ebola people get cured (or die 50-90%).
Perhaps someone 'wants' have ebola here. If you needed to immunize a massive amount of people in a short amount of time (but don't have a vaccine yet) that could be one way to get the average population a 'down and dirty' protection. I don't know. Conspiracy theories always make me tired. 8)
Perhaps someone 'wants' have ebola here. If you needed to immunize a massive amount of people in a short amount of time (but don't have a vaccine yet) that could be one way to get the average population a 'down and dirty' protection. I don't know. Conspiracy theories always make me tired. 8)
Who is this Ebola character? Is he friend of Obama? Sounds like a baseball player. Now pitching for the Dodgers........Erik Ebola..........
Seriously though, I'm not overly concerned.
Seriously though, I'm not overly concerned.
An infected person isn't contagious unless symptoms are present, at which time they'll know they're sick.
....ok, I give-you're right and I'm wrong....needlessly panic by all means....
Really? From the first symptom, people will know it's not just a cold or flu? You have much more faith in people than I do. I think to many of them are idjits. There was a person here who knew she had been in contact with someone who had developed SARS. (First person contact.) so, before being officially told she was to be quarantined she went grocery shopping. Fortunately, she did not develop SARS, but she was quite willing to risk spreading it. I don't recall whether she had any symptoms, but I do know under WHO's recommendations, she was to be quarantined in her own home, with a sign on the door so nobody entered. And more importantly SHE knew it, but went shopping first.
I think any flights being allowed in from countries that have the illness are a risk to infecting the whole world. Probably more risk than these two known patients. With these two everyone in contact with them knows the risk and will hopefully take all precautions. But...these two knew the risk and obviously something went wrong. Either risks were taken or mistakes were made. So, why believe everyone here won't slip up?
I just don't have that much faith in people.
Btw, I 'm not sitting here in a panic over this. I may sound it in my posts. I'm a heck of a lot more afraid of a sesame seed. 
I just have no faith in people to be as careful as they need to be, and as I said, I think the bigger risk is the public that flies on normal planes either not knowing or not admitting to symptoms.
These two people stand a better chance at survival here than if left there.
I just have no faith in people to be as careful as they need to be, and as I said, I think the bigger risk is the public that flies on normal planes either not knowing or not admitting to symptoms.
These two people stand a better chance at survival here than if left there.
They aren't just any two random patients. They are American citizens, who deserve to be treated here. They were also working
with Samaritan's Purse, and another missions group. One is a doctor.
Samaritan's purse is currently evacuating non essential staff out of Liberia.
I'm not overly concerned about catching Ebola....the media shouldn't be allowed use such scare tactics to over hype situations and cause panic.
I'm more concerned with the mob mentality media has created within the public.
My wish is for the safety of all involved and a full recovery for the two who are suffering. From what I hear, it is a truly horrible illness.
Medical Evacuation Under Way Of Americans Infected With Ebola Virus In Liberia - The Watauga Democrat
with Samaritan's Purse, and another missions group. One is a doctor.
Samaritan's purse is currently evacuating non essential staff out of Liberia.
I'm not overly concerned about catching Ebola....the media shouldn't be allowed use such scare tactics to over hype situations and cause panic.
I'm more concerned with the mob mentality media has created within the public.
My wish is for the safety of all involved and a full recovery for the two who are suffering. From what I hear, it is a truly horrible illness.
Medical Evacuation Under Way Of Americans Infected With Ebola Virus In Liberia - The Watauga Democrat
American citizens, having put themselves in harm's way to help others, indeed got harmed. We need to find a way to treat them. I have no problems with taking them to a treatment center under the proper protocols.
I read The Hot Zone too and was impressed. Gripping tale. Wow, we are one filovirus mutation away from being some version of The Stand. Then I was talking to a dear friend who's an epidemiologist. I brought the book up, and she rolled her eyes. Was not impressed. And this is a person who doesn't eat at salad bars and keeps her house in near-sterile condition. I need to talk to her to find out what she finds wrong with the book.
I read The Hot Zone too and was impressed. Gripping tale. Wow, we are one filovirus mutation away from being some version of The Stand. Then I was talking to a dear friend who's an epidemiologist. I brought the book up, and she rolled her eyes. Was not impressed. And this is a person who doesn't eat at salad bars and keeps her house in near-sterile condition. I need to talk to her to find out what she finds wrong with the book.
Once symptoms of Ebola appear they are severe, as the article states. I doubt a person showing the symptoms will be capable of passing himself off as anything but obviously, miserably ill, and would already be hospitalized.
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WHO | WHO Director-General assesses the Ebola outbreak with three West African presidents
Even diseases want to survive, and so they change over time. Every time a flu returns it's a little bit different, and usually a little bit stronger.
Even diseases want to survive, and so they change over time. Every time a flu returns it's a little bit different, and usually a little bit stronger.
Hey folks, if they're not symptomatic, the disease can't spread. The people evac'd have been in suits, on chartered flights, with bods from the CDC also in suits, so there is no danger from them.
There've been ~1500 reported cases since February in West Africa. For this outbreak, the mortality rate is ~55-60%. That's in one of the most open, uncontrollable areas of the world, where all kinds of cultural and social mores bring people in close proximity to the disease and bio-security is practically nil.
Should an infected but asymptomatic person get on a flight, there would be zero danger from that person. When they become symptomatic, they are visibly ill and deteriorate rapidly. At the very least, they would appear to have a bad case of 'flu. But, unlike with 'flu, if they sneeze you will only be infected if you come into contact with blood, saliva, mucus or sweat. The Ebola variant in play here is NOT an airborne pathogen, you CAN NOT contract the disease just by breathing the same air as an infectee. Another thing, because of the nature of the disease, sufferers will basically take on the appearance of walking salami at an early stage.
Really, the biggest risk to the western world was, and still is, pneumonic plague. In both cases, it doesn't matter much whether you're strong as an ox or have ongoing health issues. The real trick is, read up on the disease, then if you come down with some sudden symptoms that seem to match, isolate yourself and seek help.
And just for your peace of mind, there was a brief outbreak of Ebola in Reston, VA in 1989. It was a mutated strain, harmless to humans (as it turned out). It's also widely reported that there's an Ebola variant (probably Ebola Reston) still doing the rounds in Pennsylvania.
There've been ~1500 reported cases since February in West Africa. For this outbreak, the mortality rate is ~55-60%. That's in one of the most open, uncontrollable areas of the world, where all kinds of cultural and social mores bring people in close proximity to the disease and bio-security is practically nil.
Should an infected but asymptomatic person get on a flight, there would be zero danger from that person. When they become symptomatic, they are visibly ill and deteriorate rapidly. At the very least, they would appear to have a bad case of 'flu. But, unlike with 'flu, if they sneeze you will only be infected if you come into contact with blood, saliva, mucus or sweat. The Ebola variant in play here is NOT an airborne pathogen, you CAN NOT contract the disease just by breathing the same air as an infectee. Another thing, because of the nature of the disease, sufferers will basically take on the appearance of walking salami at an early stage.
Really, the biggest risk to the western world was, and still is, pneumonic plague. In both cases, it doesn't matter much whether you're strong as an ox or have ongoing health issues. The real trick is, read up on the disease, then if you come down with some sudden symptoms that seem to match, isolate yourself and seek help.
And just for your peace of mind, there was a brief outbreak of Ebola in Reston, VA in 1989. It was a mutated strain, harmless to humans (as it turned out). It's also widely reported that there's an Ebola variant (probably Ebola Reston) still doing the rounds in Pennsylvania.