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kiseruyoru

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Hi,

I think my first SK novel was either Christine or Misery, but I was perhaps 11 years old, and I can't really remember, I know I read those two, and It that year. I read The Gunslinger, started Drawing of the Three, and didn't like it.

But I've read (or re-read) at least one SK novel every year since then. I'm 26 now, and down to exactly 10 unread SK novels/non-fiction/collections to go from the main (broadly commercial) body of work. Audio-books finally got me through the last three (including Wind Through the Keyhole) Dark Tower books, after I listened to my first audiobook about a month ago (The Martian).

I'll run out of SK books in a month or two, because I've come to love audiobooks, and can listen to them 10 hours a day thru work (in fact, they've made work much less depressing).

I'll be quite sad when only re-reading (by listening) to On Writing is left, and maybe digging out some old magazines or novella prints I missed(got the major audio-book ones already), and it was realizing this today that made me realize. Stephen King, in a postion only really matched by The Simpsons, has been such a part of my life for so damn long that. . . I think we need a word for the kind of love I feel for the worlds in the Tower, for the demi-god of those worlds himself, the world-lens I've added to my bag because of him and his works, and the little family I so vividly imagine the Kings to be. I love it all, and I'm running out, and, like a certain character from the Left Behind series, I'll have to decide how best to ration the cookies (books) left to me -- eat them now? or portion them out?

I just finished listening to Bag of Bones today, and it made me realize, listening to books is vastly different from reading them, so maybe I can re-do everything I missed the auido to, and read what I have only listened to so far (about 10 books), but even then, only a few years of new left, and. . . .It's a pretty sad thing really. I never really thought about it when there seemed to be so much left, and I read so slowly (or infrequently anyway), wanting to read other authors as well.

But then, listening to Bag of Bones after 5 years or more showed me how much more pronounced the dream-like quality of his work can become, when you have that weird deja vous of a barely remembered book (two which you have, most importantly, forgotten the ending, but not the beginning) and it feels very much like the real-world "I could swear this already happened, and nothing will surprise me, but why can I not remember what comes next?"

That, and how much King is, for all his tendencies to pulpy fiction, very much a reader's writer, something he says in his often comments to the "Constant Reader" in his Forwards and Afterwards, but something that doesn't really hit home, until you read the first story of Hearts in Atlantis and thing so hard on how that story feels like it mostly exists to sort out the ending to Lord of the Flies, or until you start feeling how each story serves the beam, once that has really fallen into your mind and heart, or how Bag of Bones visits so heavily on the theme of morality in writing itself, in ghost stories, in revenge, and in a simple man (albeit a wealthy one) in a simple not-quite-town (albeit, with all the horrors one that has been around since at least the 20's would have) --- how frankly the supernatural can stand-in to really show us the boogeymen of our lives (an alcoholic father, who is often a good man, The Shining) and how just a touch of, the touch, can show us some dark and wonderful truths about humanity -- or just the simple terror of that bully many of us had, the one that grouped up on us one day, and we really, truly, feared for our lives "Hey f%$-boy," (and so and so on, in my case, actually being gay, but knowing they didn't even know that, and yet, not actually believing that fact).

As someone who made Literature my business for several years, I still cringe at his need for stricter editing from time to time, but Stephen King's stories have always been my single greatest lens for trying to understand other people, and (beautifully) that lens has changed with every book I've read. The only thing I would wish on it is that I had actually kept up with the Dark Tower, instead of leaving it for the back 9, and having to remember so many connections and things in retrospect. But then again, it makes me want to read a lot of books over again. I think It and The Stand will benefit most of all. And since I do not (as a rule) re-read books. . .Those two are about two decades in my past, they deserve another go around.


This has gotten long. Sorry.

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Hi,

I think my first SK novel was either Christine or Misery, but I was perhaps 11 years old, and I can't really remember, I know I read those two, and It that year. I read The Gunslinger, started Drawing of the Three, and didn't like it.

But I've read (or re-read) at least one SK novel every year since then. I'm 26 now, and down to exactly 10 unread SK novels/non-fiction/collections to go from the main (broadly commercial) body of work. Audio-books finally got me through the last three (including Wind Through the Keyhole) Dark Tower books, after I listened to my first audiobook about a month ago (The Martian).

I'll run out of SK books in a month or two, because I've come to love audiobooks, and can listen to them 10 hours a day thru work (in fact, they've made work much less depressing).

I'll be quite sad when only re-reading (by listening) to On Writing is left, and maybe digging out some old magazines or novella prints I missed(got the major audio-book ones already), and it was realizing this today that made me realize. Stephen King, in a postion only really matched by The Simpsons, has been such a part of my life for so damn long that. . . I think we need a word for the kind of love I feel for the worlds in the Tower, for the demi-god of those worlds himself, the world-lens I've added to my bag because of him and his works, and the little family I so vividly imagine the Kings to be. I love it all, and I'm running out, and, like a certain character from the Left Behind series, I'll have to decide how best to ration the cookies (books) left to me -- eat them now? or portion them out?

I just finished listening to Bag of Bones today, and it made me realize, listening to books is vastly different from reading them, so maybe I can re-do everything I missed the auido to, and read what I have only listened to so far (about 10 books), but even then, only a few years of new left, and. . . .It's a pretty sad thing really. I never really thought about it when there seemed to be so much left, and I read so slowly (or infrequently anyway), wanting to read other authors as well.

But then, listening to Bag of Bones after 5 years or more showed me how much more pronounced the dream-like quality of his work can become, when you have that weird deja vous of a barely remembered book (two which you have, most importantly, forgotten the ending, but not the beginning) and it feels very much like the real-world "I could swear this already happened, and nothing will surprise me, but why can I not remember what comes next?"

That, and how much King is, for all his tendencies to pulpy fiction, very much a reader's writer, something he says in his often comments to the "Constant Reader" in his Forwards and Afterwards, but something that doesn't really hit home, until you read the first story of Hearts in Atlantis and thing so hard on how that story feels like it mostly exists to sort out the ending to Lord of the Flies, or until you start feeling how each story serves the beam, once that has really fallen into your mind and heart, or how Bag of Bones visits so heavily on the theme of morality in writing itself, in ghost stories, in revenge, and in a simple man (albeit a wealthy one) in a simple not-quite-town (albeit, with all the horrors one that has been around since at least the 20's would have) --- how frankly the supernatural can stand-in to really show us the boogeymen of our lives (an alcoholic father, who is often a good man, The Shining) and how just a touch of, the touch, can show us some dark and wonderful truths about humanity -- or just the simple terror of that bully many of us had, the one that grouped up on us one day, and we really, truly, feared for our lives "Hey f%$-boy," (and so and so on, in my case, actually being gay, but knowing they didn't even know that, and yet, not actually believing that fact).

As someone who made Literature my business for several years, I still cringe at his need for stricter editing from time to time, but Stephen King's stories have always been my single greatest lens for trying to understand other people, and (beautifully) that lens has changed with every book I've read. The only thing I would wish on it is that I had actually kept up with the Dark Tower, instead of leaving it for the back 9, and having to remember so many connections and things in retrospect. But then again, it makes me want to read a lot of books over again. I think It and The Stand will benefit most of all. And since I do not (as a rule) re-read books. . .Those two are about two decades in my past, they deserve another go around.


This has gotten long. Sorry.

Hello.
"I still cringe at his need for stricter editing from time to time,"

Well - who'da thunk it, eh?

:umm::m_whatwhat:

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kiseruyoru

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Thanks for the welcome everyone

Mal -- I'll give a you a TL;DR version now: I like how much time I have where audiobooks are an option, and reading is not. I have felt a weird kind of love for certain narrators I spent a good number of hours with, and a fantastic voice actor can bring a book to life in a way that, sometimes, even my own mind cannot -- Stephen Fry's reading of Hitchhiker's Guide turned a basically okay book I had already read into something fantastic, and got me to listen to the rest of the series.

The rest:
I shared your opinion before I actually listened to audiobooks, but The Martian, Stephen Fry in the first Hitchhiker's Guide book, and a great many readers of King's own books have kinda changed my view on that -- not every reader for King has been to my preference so far, but twenty books of Stephen King alone and I gotta say -- other than Stephen King reading The Wind Through the Keyhole, no performance actually bothered me, and several were preferable to my own voice. Moreover, The Wind Through the Keyhole probably only because I had kinda fallen in love with the guy who did 6 and 7 after those two -- because none of King's other narrations struck me wrong at all.

I will say this though, audiobooks at 1x speed are. . .painfully slow, especially compared to my reading speed. But most sound quite good at 2x speed, more like what I think of as an appropriate speaking voice/speed (tho slightly distorted I know), and 29 hours/2 for audiobook The Dark Tower versus 1000 pages (in my paperback copy) that I'd either have to block out two 5 hours sessions for or (reading whenever I found the time, and therefore inefficiently, because it takes maybe 15 minutes to 'warm up'), at worst, 25 hours .. . I usually don't take the inefficient route, but I have done a couple times -- well, as I said, 10 hours of work a day I am allowed to listen to whatever I like, only two of those are break periods (an hour before work, with a coffee and breakfast in the parking lot and a lunch hour) that I could read during, and I don't usually do either at home. The last three (one being Wind Through the Keyhole, to clarify) Dark Tower books sat on my shelf for almost 6 months after I bought them, but took just over three days to listen to.

Going back to the narrator for The Dark Tower -- some voice you just kind of fall in love with, and the book takes on a whole new substance. Listening to Bag of Bones was like a totally different book compared to reading it, in a good way. I wouldn't say audiobooks are innately better than reading them yourself (tho Stephen Fry's Hitchhiker's guide certainly is, the other books, without him, are not), but some are better experiences with another narrator than myself. Roland of Gilead is much less aggravating in someone else's voice -- I truly hate the man called Roland as the character constructed purely of my psyche, as a voice of another however? I can see his beautiful tragedy, and he is a wonderful (if somewhat unlikable) character -- , Eddie Dean went from a whiny little bugger to an amusing comic-relief role, and similar such things. Sure, sometimes a guy reading a girl in that phony, breathless voice, or a girl trying to sound like a man in some weird way I can't put my finger on, that can be a bit annoying -- because my mind can just conjure up its own female voice, and there are loads of problems like this, but on the other hand, when a narrator barely makes an effort to sound like the other gender -- or in the rare case, does a convincing job, women imitating old men seems to work unusually often -- then you can take that smoothly affected voice and actually impose your own inner voice to it.

Finally -- it's my (early) experience that, when you listen to a narrator long enough, you can treat it almost like reading, just without being able to skip words, or speed up, or anything like that. Listen to a narrator long enough, and you can add whatever you normally would to the experience, as if it were reading itself -- unless you fall in love with the narrator. It isn't a romantic love mind, but aye, definitely a love. And falling in love is never a bad thing.

As an aside -- I dislike silence, partially because of my tinnitus and that damnable ringing sound silence brings, but mostly because silence lets my mind wander too far, too easily, and that's bad for me for all kinds of reasons -- an audiobook let's me practically shut down my personal mind, and turn everything to enjoying the story. Work passes at least 3x faster than music, or even podcasts would allow, and when I feel like drinking on the porch, the two times I've tried it I really, really enjoyed drinking and smoking on the porch as I watched the rain -- and I couldn't have brought a book out there because of the rain.

I won't stop reading, I love it too much, but this month's tally thus far? Audiobooks -- 31, Reading myself -- *digs thru the bookshelf for the 'newly read' section* Only 5 -- working on number six. It's largely about time, but audiobooks do have their particular appeal. Give me another year or two (I'm so new to them) and I might have a more informed opinion on the matter, better words for the feelings I have right now, and proper thoughts on the matter in general.


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I apologise for all the parenthetically and em-dash..edly. . .(XD) contained thoughts. It's how I write my own words, how I talk, and how I think -- and I don't know exactly how to deal with it in my own, personal, voice. And turning this to an essay is a bit beyond me right now, when I've listened to audiobooks for longer, and have more cogent thoughts (gimme a year or two), I'll be able to write something presentable on the matter.
 
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kiseruyoru

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"I still cringe at his need for stricter editing from time to time,"

Well - who'da thunk it, eh?

:umm::m_whatwhat:

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Just out of pure and gentle curiosity -- I am unable to tell if your statement is ironic. If it is, then elaboration is likely unneeded -- unless you have particular insight to this case, in which case (ha, repetition), bring it on. If it is not ironic, however, please elaborate. I'd love to hear your opinion.


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kiseruyoru

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Welcome. Try the Drawing of The Three again. Your opinion may have changed by now. The Tower series is the epitome of King's writing.

I don't agree with that, but I did make it thru all of them finally. I love King's magical surrealism, that's not what the Dark Tower books give, they're High Fantasy. I don't hate them or anything, but they're my least favoured King stories all the same.
 

SHEEMIEE

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I drive long distances, therefor the audio book is a necessary evil. Most of the time I put up with some real bad narrators reading some real bad stories ( try going through the top 100 sci fi books of 29th century (edit 20th century!!!)) but then I stumbled across a story called the Hedge knight ( game of thrones prequel) the narrator Frank Muller stole the show.

I then found he read Dark Tower Gunslinger also, which was news to me as I had already listened to George guidel. Reading the story years before.

I tell you now,Frank Muller became Long tall and ugly for me from then on. I even enjoyed his Delgado readings. The guy was awesome.

It made me take the journey annually with him at the wheel. When he took the path to the clearing before finishing the trek to the tower, I felt his loss as much, if not more, as losing each of the characters as they were written out.

And I really tried with wind through the keyhole, I honestly did, but I just couldn't continue without Frank.listening to SK just wasn't the same. Sai King writes the awesome tales, but just didn't become the character for me.

So I hold my hands up, I have never returned to TWTTK because of that reason. I just can't listen to Sai King.

Cry pardon.
 
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