Understanding the muse

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Joshua Moore

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There are a lot of authors who claim to have a muse. Some are real people but others are more on the side of imagination, and I know this goes back to hundreds and hundreds of years ago. As a young reader and writer I am still confused on this subject though. Taking Stephen King for instance, in his novel "On Writing" he talks about his muse being a basement guy who smokes cigars and doesn't do much but he has a bag of magic. So what is he talking about? Does he actually imagine this? Am I thinking about it too literal? How does one find their muse. The subject gives me a headache but I want to understand it more.
 

stevegane

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As a verb, to muse is to consider something thoughtfully. As a noun, it means a person — especially a woman — who is a source of artistic inspiration.

In mythology, the Muses were nine goddesses who symbolized the arts and sciences. Today, a muse is a person who serves as an artist's inspiration. Often filmmakers talk about a certain actor being a muse — meaning the actor inspired a movie. Writers, painters, musicians, and other artists have muses.Muse can also refer to thinking deeply. If you muse about something, you're giving it serious thought. You can't muse in five seconds. People muse on certain ideas for years.
 

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As a verb, to muse is to consider something thoughtfully. As a noun, it means a person — especially a woman — who is a source of artistic inspiration.

In mythology, the Muses were nine goddesses who symbolized the arts and sciences. Today, a muse is a person who serves as an artist's inspiration. Often filmmakers talk about a certain actor being a muse — meaning the actor inspired a movie. Writers, painters, musicians, and other artists have muses.Muse can also refer to thinking deeply. If you muse about something, you're giving it serious thought. You can't muse in five seconds. People muse on certain ideas for years.
The only muse I can think of is Kate Beckett to Richard Castle (but of course this is just a fictional TV character) - great show, though!
 

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“There is a muse, but he’s not going to come fluttering down into your writing room and scatter creative fairy-dust all over your typewriter or computer station. He lives in the ground. He’s a basement guy. You have to descend to his level, and once you get down there you have to furnish an apartment for him to live in. You have to do all the grunt labor, in other words, while the muse sits and smokes cigars and admires his bowling trophies and pretends to ignore you. Do you think it’s fair? I think it’s fair. He may not be much to look at, that muse-guy, and he may not be much of a conversationalist (what I get out of mine is mostly surly grunts, unless he’s on duty), but he’s got the inspiration. It’s right that you should do all the work and burn all the midnight oil, because the guy with the cigar and little wings got a bag of magic. There’s stuff in there that can change your life.”


“Don't wait for the muse. As I've said, he's a hardheaded guy who's not susceptible to a lot of creative fluttering. This isn't the Ouija board or the spirit-world we're talking about here, but just another job like laying pipe or driving long-haul trucks. Your job is to make sure the muse knows where you're going to be every day from nine 'til noon. or seven 'til three. If he does know, I assure you that sooner or later he'll start showing up.”
 

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There are a lot of authors who claim to have a muse. Some are real people but others are more on the side of imagination, and I know this goes back to hundreds and hundreds of years ago. As a young reader and writer I am still confused on this subject though. Taking Stephen King for instance, in his novel "On Writing" he talks about his muse being a basement guy who smokes cigars and doesn't do much but he has a bag of magic. So what is he talking about? Does he actually imagine this? Am I thinking about it too literal? How does one find their muse. The subject gives me a headache but I want to understand it more.
...Ms. Spidey did her usual wonderful job of tracking down the passages...and in my humble estimation, that wonderful description is just a way of describing how to harness your talent, at whatever level-train your mind and stick to a schedule...
 

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Taking Stephen King for instance, in his novel "On Writing" he talks about his muse being a basement guy .

As a verb, to muse is to consider something thoughtfully. As a noun, it means a person — especially a woman — who is a source of artistic inspiration.
Original orientation of inspiration...:umm::smile2:
 

skimom2

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It's not so much that Mr. King visualizes such a cigar smoking person before he writes, but that he's giving the reader a visual of the way his individual muse is foundational. The muse is necessary to creation (whether you think of it as the literal foundation of the writing or as the janitor who keeps everything going--that's a bit neater analogy).

His point is that the writer does the real work, not the muse. From thence come ideas, but you have to goose it a bit to keep it working. You put in the hours. To get back to his apartment worker analogy, if the muse--inspiration--is the janitor that keeps things running, the writer has to remember that he is the building owner, the one in charge, that gives the janitor instruction :)

I think it's summed up best in one of Mr. King's most famous quotes (and one I have hung in my writing area):
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17021jude

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Muse: a guiding genius. I find myself getting into situations that I know virtually nothing about and come out of it looking pretty knowledgeable to this I thank my muse!! Like I offered to build a set of cabinets for my boyfriends kitchen, as in the back of my mind the company I worked at the time had a pile of unused cabinets doors etc laying around..although I had no real idea on how to proceed the end result turned out nicely (tried to download a pic and it failed, my muse doesn't work on Sunday's) Anyhoooo, my muse seems to guide me through a menagerie of different careers and relationships, I do have to say she (muse) is a little bi-polar in her leadings, as I have been a heavy equipment operator, a florist and interior designer, computer aided drafter and now am an office manager sitting on my butt pushing paper's all day all of which I knew pretty close to nothing about when I was hired. Even what might seem little I give credit to her for, like passing my motorcycle riding exam on the first try, or assembling and installing a new ceiling fan or faucet!
 

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According to Kevin Smith in dogma, this is a muse:
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A muse can also be a pretentious Britsh rock band:
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What people use as inspiration depends on what they are taking. Some people feel a need to personify their ideas, others are so smashed off their faces that they believe they have accessed the akashic records to write classic songs (i'm looking at you Paul McCartney). If I have a muse, she must be a dumb ass. I can play guitar but can't write anything on it - what kind of a muse is that?
 

Mr Nobody

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I tried to understand the muse. I wish I hadn't. I think the attempt nearly killed him/her/it. He/she/it is now off life support, but things won't ever be the same again. Nuh-uh.
Before, I'd just get 'flashes' - a thought, an image, an idle moment of not-thinking thinking ending with a chuckle and a slap on the shoulder as I suddenly realize that's a bloody good idea!
Now? It seems like the muse don't trust me no more.
 

skimom2

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I tried to understand the muse. I wish I hadn't. I think the attempt nearly killed him/her/it. He/she/it is now off life support, but things won't ever be the same again. Nuh-uh.
Before, I'd just get 'flashes' - a thought, an image, an idle moment of not-thinking thinking ending with a chuckle and a slap on the shoulder as I suddenly realize that's a bloody good idea!
Now? It seems like the muse don't trust me no more.

Eh. The Muse can be a bit of a barstard. I've heard two schools of thought from successful writers: some I know switch to something entirely different from writing when they hit a dry patch (maybe other arts, exercise, whatever), trusting that their batteries will recharge and Mr. Muse will return. Others just keep plugging along, writing whatever comes into their head (and ultimately tossing out a great chunk of it) until something captures their attention and the muse is lured back.