Wow. Just too many possibilities here....you walked right into your own butt?????...wowser!.....
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Wow. Just too many possibilities here....you walked right into your own butt?????...wowser!.....
I must insert a voice of conscience here.
It's so tempting to do that, and it just seems so just, to give the $h!t-stirrer, the annoying haranguer, his comeuppance.
But it's cruel. And if you want to take the high road, if you want to be better than the people you're resenting, it doesn't really call for cruelty. Just ban them outright. Make it clean, make it straightforward.
You don't go wrong by taking the high road. If someone is bannable, then just ban them.
I've never heard of hellbanning (but I don't go on many chat boards). In this case, I agree with you, Grandpa--better to be straightforward and ban them outright and upfront. Hellbanning sounds cowardly, and not much different from one who hides behind a screen name to say inflammatory or asinine things. If one can't ignore the troll, it's better to be honest than to hide behind a blanket ban to avoid confrontation, IMHO.
Most folks don't remember that moderators usually operate with a Three Strikes policy. When an abusive member harangues, harasses, or posts inflammatory messages, is warned three times about it, and continues the offensive behavior, then hellbanning is a very viable option, in my opinion. It's for community health reasons that I'm for hellbanning.
I just dot-banned myself....
I'm in this camp. It just seems mean. I say ban them if they need it.I must insert a voice of conscience here.
It's so tempting to do that, and it just seems so just, to give the $h!t-stirrer, the annoying haranguer, his comeuppance.
But it's cruel. And if you want to take the high road, if you want to be better than the people you're resenting, it doesn't really call for cruelty. Just ban them outright. Make it clean, make it straightforward.
I did participate on a board that did hellbanning. And there was one guy there who, while the mods apparently considered him a troll, considered himself simply fiercely independent. He argued a lot, and yeah, he was annoying. He got the hellban. Apparently he posted and posted until he figured out what was wrong, then came back in another persona, said, "Well, I hope you've had your fun. I spent a lot of time and energy sending my thoughts to nowhere. That was meaner than I'd ever be. I thought I was with accepting people, but now I know better," and if it was simply manipulation, it worked on me, because I felt bad for him.
You don't go wrong by taking the high road. If someone is bannable, then just ban them.
I agree with Pops. If someone puts a lot of time and effort into formulating passionate discussions then it isn't right to hellban them. However, if they are picking fights and are not rationally discussing the subject, the person should recieve a message requesting civil interaction and a week cool off period (read suspend account for) if they don't 'play nice'. If a person repeats a couple more times, he or she should receive a 30 day cool down. If after a several trials the 'troll' behavior continues, inform them up front they will be banned.I must insert a voice of conscience here.
It's so tempting to do that, and it just seems so just, to give the $h!t-stirrer, the annoying haranguer, his comeuppance.
But it's cruel. And if you want to take the high road, if you want to be better than the people you're resenting, it doesn't really call for cruelty. Just ban them outright. Make it clean, make it straightforward.
I did participate on a board that did hellbanning. And there was one guy there who, while the mods apparently considered him a troll, considered himself simply fiercely independent. He argued a lot, and yeah, he was annoying. He got the hellban. Apparently he posted and posted until he figured out what was wrong, then came back in another persona, said, "Well, I hope you've had your fun. I spent a lot of time and energy sending my thoughts to nowhere. That was meaner than I'd ever be. I thought I was with accepting people, but now I know better," and if it was simply manipulation, it worked on me, because I felt bad for him.
You don't go wrong by taking the high road. If someone is bannable, then just ban them.
I haven't seen Sunny around here lately. Hmm.If you can read this.......
I've not been hellbanned.......yet
I'm in this camp. It just seems mean. I say ban them if they need it.
I would save hellbanning for someone truly vile, not just irritating.
It is a horrible feeling to realize a board thinks you are a troll.
Only if someone is really vile? But what is that? What does you count as vile? is that the same as some other person would count as vile. I'm not saying i disagree with you but such an action must be based on something at least tentatively defined. Vile is such a loose word and can mean a lot of things. And isn't part of the goals with this site to discuss subjects that some people might consider vile? While others might consider them interesting. But, i say instantly, i don't know much about trolls except the thingies that pop up in fairytales watching goldtreasure or trying to cook nine dwarfs and a hobbit but im more of a bookworm than a computerworm.I'm not backpeddling here: I'm for hellbanning ONLY if the person is truly vile. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my original post.
The thing is, the most effective way to stop an unwanted behavior in a child is to ignore it when they display that behavior. When the child learns that they won't get attention with their acting out, they'll cease it. Is it cruel to ignore them when they throw a temper tantrum? Most parents would probably say "no". It's the same thing with hellbanning, in that you're attempting to get certain behavior to stop. Yes, it sucks when you connect the dots and realize others think you're a troll, so maybe you'll think twice about being one if you're ever hellbanned.
Why? Just to piss off people? Do the people who make the trolls get off on that?Trolls find the thing (or things) to say that they know will offend the most people on a board across the board, so to speak, and they say it, often and in as many variations as they can come up with....
If we were to use hellbanning/global ignore/Tachy Goes to Coventry, we couldn't very well tell you .