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Dana Jean · Jun 25, 2020

ghost19 said:
I managed to scrape most of the burnt gunky off and cleaned it up, mostly cleaning off the CO2 from the fire extinguisher was the hard part, and off the house, and the patio, Tam's garden fence.....she was very thorough with the fire extinguisher, but here's a tip, they don't work on propane fires unless you're able to shut off the source of the gas. I was in the back of the house, Tamara went out to warm up the grill, while she made up the hamburger patties, she does the grilling for obvious reasons that most know here. About 10 minutes after she went outside, I hear her yelling, but my house is brick and it's hard to hear anyone when they're outside especially when I was all the way back in our bedroom. I finally heard her, ran into the kitchen, my kitchen window overlooks our patio, and I saw flames at the same height as the window which is about 7 feet high off the patio. Apparently, we're not sure what happened, but there was a leak in the gas hose running from the grill to the tank somewhere. When Tam hit the igniter button for the first burner, it sent a huge spark that ignited the gas that had leaked from the tank. She didn't get burned, luckily it kind of blew off to the side but it scared her, so she ran back into the house, grabbed the fire extinguisher without saying a word, ran out and went to work, but then it didn't help so she started yelling. I ran outside, saw that the flames were getting pretty high, told Tamara to get in the house, about that time, both Daniel and Aidan came walking out onto the patio to see what the commotion was. I yelled at all three of them to stop gawking and get into the living room, my thinking was there would be a total of a brick wall, and two other walls between the tank and them if it blew. My garden hose is right beside the grill, turned it on full blast and started hosing down the propane tank. You have to cool it down so you can turn off the source of the gas, that's what Tamara couldn't get to because of the flame. So, I hosed it down for about 30 seconds, got the flames knocked down enough where I could see the valve, didn't think to put on any gloves, no time, and turned it off with one hand while keeping the cold water spraying on it so my fingers didn't get too singed, they got singed, but not bad. After that, just kept hosing the tank down hoping it wouldn't blow before it got cooled down enough. It didn't...lol. Meanwhile, Tam had called the fire department, so about......20 minutes after it was all over, they showed up and we all had a big laugh about it. They told me kudos for trying to put it out instead of running away because it could have blown pretty big, it was a brand new propane tank I had bought for the new grill. The fire melted the gas regulator hose assembly into black goo and the propane tank kept leaking gas for another couple of hours until it finally ran out. Another day at Hill House.....lmao.

LAWSUIT!

BURNT HAND THAT WILL NEVER WORK RIGHT AGAIN, (for any job)!

PAIN, TRAUMA, SUFFERING!

CHILDREN WHO NEED THERAPY NOW!

WIFE WHO INHALED PROPANE FUMES!

SCORCHED EARTH!

CASH PAYOUT! RETIREMENT!

Wyoming (or was that Montana) cabin, here you come!

New grill with chef.

Spideyman · Jun 25, 2020

ghost19 said:
I managed to scrape most of the burnt gunky off and cleaned it up, mostly cleaning off the CO2 from the fire extinguisher was the hard part, and off the house, and the patio, Tam's garden fence.....she was very thorough with the fire extinguisher, but here's a tip, they don't work on propane fires unless you're able to shut off the source of the gas. I was in the back of the house, Tamara went out to warm up the grill, while she made up the hamburger patties, she does the grilling for obvious reasons that most know here. About 10 minutes after she went outside, I hear her yelling, but my house is brick and it's hard to hear anyone when they're outside especially when I was all the way back in our bedroom. I finally heard her, ran into the kitchen, my kitchen window overlooks our patio, and I saw flames at the same height as the window which is about 7 feet high off the patio. Apparently, we're not sure what happened, but there was a leak in the gas hose running from the grill to the tank somewhere. When Tam hit the igniter button for the first burner, it sent a huge spark that ignited the gas that had leaked from the tank. She didn't get burned, luckily it kind of blew off to the side but it scared her, so she ran back into the house, grabbed the fire extinguisher without saying a word, ran out and went to work, but then it didn't help so she started yelling. I ran outside, saw that the flames were getting pretty high, told Tamara to get in the house, about that time, both Daniel and Aidan came walking out onto the patio to see what the commotion was. I yelled at all three of them to stop gawking and get into the living room, my thinking was there would be a total of a brick wall, and two other walls between the tank and them if it blew. My garden hose is right beside the grill, turned it on full blast and started hosing down the propane tank. You have to cool it down so you can turn off the source of the gas, that's what Tamara couldn't get to because of the flame. So, I hosed it down for about 30 seconds, got the flames knocked down enough where I could see the valve, didn't think to put on any gloves, no time, and turned it off with one hand while keeping the cold water spraying on it so my fingers didn't get too singed, they got singed, but not bad. After that, just kept hosing the tank down hoping it wouldn't blow before it got cooled down enough. It didn't...lol. Meanwhile, Tam had called the fire department, so about......20 minutes after it was all over, they showed up and we all had a big laugh about it. They told me kudos for trying to put it out instead of running away because it could have blown pretty big, it was a brand new propane tank I had bought for the new grill. The fire melted the gas regulator hose assembly into black goo and the propane tank kept leaking gas for another couple of hours until it finally ran out. Another day at Hill House.....lmao.

I was amazed at how much CO2 is in a small fire extinguisher, more amazed that after sitting under my kitchen sink for 16 years it still worked...lol

Our whole patio, grill, steps, side of the house was coated in flame retardant....lol, it was a mess to clean up. I told Tamara if she didn't want me to have a new grill, there wasn't any cause to set it on fire, a simple "I'm jealous of your new grill" would have sufficed I told her. She's still mad at me, told me I'm lucky I didn't get killed and that it was NOT funny....lol. There's always a funny side.....you just have to be deranged enough to see it...lol

Oh ghost19 -- you have to make a collection of all these stories. I see a best seller in your future!!!

DiO'Bolic · Jun 25, 2020

Unless you check your hose(s) and connections every day with soap and water to check for leaks (and/or perform a smell test) you are potentially dealing with a ticking time-bomb if you grill with propane or natural gas. Grills fall under my area at the home improvement center. Many people don’t realize it, but it is their responsibility to inspect equipment as nothing lasts forever. Also abrasions and bending causes fatigue in the hoses. I often tell people this when they’re buying grills, but nobody listens. And because you essentially are dealing wit a bomb and fire, TOGETHER, is the reason my gas grill was set in a corner about 15 years ago and is rusting away, and why I only grill with charcoal now.

ghost19 · Jun 25, 2020

Dana Jean said:
LAWSUIT!

BURNT HAND THAT WILL NEVER WORK RIGHT AGAIN, (for any job)!

PAIN, TRAUMA, SUFFERING!

CHILDREN WHO NEED THERAPY NOW!

WIFE WHO INHALED PROPANE FUMES!

SCORCHED EARTH!

CASH PAYOUT! RETIREMENT!

Wyoming (or was that Montana) cabin, here you come!

New grill with chef.

More likely operator error when I assembled it most likely...lol But I like the way you're thinking...lol

ghost19 · Jun 25, 2020

DiO'Bolic said:
Unless you check your hose(s) and connections every day with soap and water to check for leaks (and/or perform a smell test) you are potentially dealing with a ticking time-bomb if you grill with propane or natural gas. Grills fall under my area at the home improvement center. Many people don’t realize it, but it is their responsibility to inspect equipment as nothing lasts forever. Also abrasions and bending causes fatigue in the hoses. I often tell people this when they’re buying grills, but nobody listens. And because you essentially are dealing wit a bomb and fire, TOGETHER, is the reason my gas grill was set in a corner about 15 years ago and is rusting away, and why I only grill with charcoal now.

Yes sir. I've never had a single issue with any of the gas grills I've owned over the years, so I figure maybe I didn't tighten down the connectors as well as I should or some other goof on my part. I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't blow myself up. I used to be a 911 dispatcher and that weird calmness, almost bored state of mind took over. I've since watched several instances of propane grills exploding on Youtube and it ain't pretty...lol

ghost19 · Jun 25, 2020

Spideyman said:
Oh ghost19 -- you have to make a collection of all these stories. I see a best seller in your future!!!

Nah, I've watched paint dry that was much more interesting than me...lol

DiO'Bolic · Jun 25, 2020

ghost19 said:
Yes sir. I've never had a single issue with any of the gas grills I've owned over the years, so I figure maybe I didn't tighten down the connectors as well as I should or some other goof on my part. I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't blow myself up. I used to be a 911 dispatcher and that weird calmness, almost bored state of mind took over. I've since watched several instances of propane grills exploding on Youtube and it ain't pretty...lol

I understand. I was that way for 25 years. Everything runs fine for years, which lulls one into a false sense of security... until that one day!

We don't even allow filled propane tanks into the home improvement center.

Gerald · Jun 25, 2020

So I suppose today's the last day the board is open?

It reminds me of the Richard Matheson story 'The Last Day', which is about the differences of what people would be doing on the last day when the world ends. I suppose this is less dramatic though.

Hopefully all your SK wishes will be fulfilled and he will write the stories you like, and they will adapt the existing books and stories right and they won't disappoint.
I'm not sure if the new Stand adaptation will be available here (soon), but let's hope it will be good. I'm also very looking forward to the Jerusalem's Lot series, as it always was a favourite story of mine.

So, goodbye and best wishes to everyone!

Spideyman · Jun 25, 2020

Gerald said:
So I suppose today's the last day the board is open?

It reminds me of the Richard Matheson story 'The Last Day', which is about the differences of what people would be doing on the last day when the world ends. I suppose this is less dramatic though.

Hopefully all your SK wishes will be fulfilled and he will write the stories you like, and they will adapt the existing books and stories right and they won't disappoint.
I'm not sure if the new Stand adaptation will be available here (soon), but let's hope it will be good. I'm also very looking forward to the Jerusalem's Lot series, as it always was a favourite story of mine.

So, goodbye and best wishes to everyone!

Last day is Tuesday June 30. Usual close at 4 today until 8:30A Tuesday.

Moderator · Jun 25, 2020

I'll be checking my connection more often now! The propane tank itself is around the corner of the house so not sure if it's as much of an issue. I have a shut off valve that I turn off/on whenever I use the grill but didn't think about leaks elsewhere in the line.

Neesy · Jun 25, 2020

FlakeNoir said:
Oh bugger... well, will you help me make the bread?

Dana Jean said:
Not so sure that's a good idea. Neesy is the bread maker, let's get her.

Bread!? Did someone say bread?

My French loaf actually turned out okay after all, even though it puffed up so much...

Hang on - aren't we supposed to be talking about how much we will miss each other etc.?

Dang! not counting today I think there is only one day left!

(Know where I will be on June 30th) :typing:

Dana Jean · Jun 25, 2020

Neesy said:
Bread!? Did someone say bread?

My French loaf actually turned out okay after all, even though it puffed up so much...

Hang on - aren't we supposed to be talking about how much we will miss each other etc.?

Dang! not counting today I think there is only one day left!

(Know where I will be on June 30th)

yes. And I will miss your bread-making skills.

DiO'Bolic · Jun 25, 2020

Moderator said:
I'll be checking my connection more often now! The propane tank itself is around the corner of the house so not sure if it's as much of an issue. I have a shut off valve that I turn off/on whenever I use the grill but didn't think about leaks elsewhere in the line.

You seem to have done things the right way... and of course YOU would.

I sometimes get a bit irate with people during the winter. They want to supplement their heat (usually in garages) with units that hook up to propane tanks INSIDE their homes. I tell them you never ever want to do that because the propane tank is essentially a bomb. Only the small propane heating units that use the Coleman type “pounders” in which the small tanks hook up directly to the units are certified to be used inside. It’s when they keep pushing me to say it’s okay that I become irate. I tell them they can ask me a thousand ways if it is okay and my answer will always be NO! I do tell them they can keep the propane tank outside and we offer 25 foot hoses that then can run inside the home. But when they see it costs about $40-$50 for the hose and a regulator they most often decide not to go that route and I know they're going to put the propane tank in the garage with the heating unit.

Neesy · Jun 25, 2020

Dana Jean said:
yes. And I will miss your bread-making skills.

Thanks Dana Jean

(making some special brownies right now - no - they have no cannabis in them, but they do have pumpkin puree) - they are the yummy ones with mini chocolate chips)

Instead of putting the nuts in the batter I just put 16 whole pecans on the top (one for each square) plus I just used Robin Hood all purpose flour

Servings
Makes 16

Ingredients

½ cup Greta’s Gluten-Free Flour Blend (see tip above)
⅓ cup cocoa powder
¼ tsp each baking powder and salt
¾ cup lightly packed brown sugar
½ cup canned pure pumpkin (not pumpkin pie filling)
¼ cup butter, melted
1 egg
1 tsp vanilla
⅓ cup chopped walnuts or pecans
⅓ cup mini chocolate chips

Directions

Preheat oven to 350°F. Spray an 8 x 8-inch baking pan with cooking spray and set aside.
In a medium bowl, combine flour blend, cocoa, baking powder and salt. Mix well.
In a large bowl, whisk together brown sugar, pumpkin, butter, egg and vanilla. Add dry ingredients to wet ingredients and stir vigorously until well blended. Fold in nuts and chocolate chips. Batter will be thick.
Spread batter evenly in prepared pan. Bake for about 25 minutes, until top feels dry to touch. Cool completely on a wire rack. Cover and refrigerate overnight for best flavor. Cut into 16 2-inch squares. These brownies taste great cold!

Nutrients Per Serving
110 calories, 5.6 g total fat (2.5 g saturated fat), 2 g protein, 14 g carbohydrate, 1.4 g fibre, 21 mg cholesterol, 53 mg sodium.

Ceefor · Jun 25, 2020

Neesy, isn't putting the nuts in the batter going to be painful.....? :wha:

Neesy · Jun 25, 2020

Ceefor said:
Neesy, isn't putting the nuts in the batter going to be painful.....?

Oh my Gawd - you appear so innocent yet you come out with a zinger like that! Well done :big_smile:

Moderator · Jun 25, 2020

DiO'Bolic said:
You seem to have done things the right way... and of course YOU would.

I sometimes get a bit irate with people during the winter. They want to supplement their heat (usually in garages) with units that hook up to propane tanks INSIDE their homes. I tell them you never ever want to do that because the propane tank is essentially a bomb. Only the small propane heating units that use the Coleman type “pounders” in which the small tanks hook up directly to the units are certified to be used inside. It’s when they keep pushing me to say it’s okay that I become irate. I tell them they can ask me a thousand ways if it is okay and my answer will always be NO! I do tell them they can keep the propane tank outside and we offer 25 foot hoses that then can run inside the home. But when they see it costs about $40-$50 for the hose and a regulator they most often decide not to go that route and I know they're going to put the propane tank in the garage with the heating unit.

We have used propane for our heat/hot water, stove and clothes dryer since the house was built as we're too far out to be hooked up for natural gas lines so already had 2 propane tanks. When we had the Generac installed a couple years ago, I had the propane company run another line for the grill which is always outside on the patio. The propane tank itself is probably about 25' or so away and just around the corner of the house. The best thing is that we never run out of propane and don't have to bother with those little tanks that typically go under the grill.

DiO'Bolic · Jun 25, 2020

Moderator said:
We have used propane for our heat/hot water, stove and clothes dryer since the house was built as we're too far out to be hooked up for natural gas lines so already had 2 propane tanks. When we had the Generac installed a couple years ago, I had the propane company run another line for the grill which is always outside on the patio. The propane tank itself is probably about 25' or so away and just around the corner of the house. The best thing is that we never run out of propane and don't have to bother with those little tanks that typically go under the grill.

Like I said... you did things right. If you ever have trouble with the pilot lights not igniting the first thing you do is use compressed air at the pilot light. One freakin' strand from a spider web can keep it from igniting. I found out the hard way with my propane fireplace and it costed me $150 for the visit.

Ceefor · Jun 25, 2020

Ceefor said:
Neesy, isn't putting the nuts in the batter going to be painful.....?

Neesy said:
Oh my Gawd - you appear so innocent yet you come out with a zinger like that! Well done

I couldn't help it.....! :snicker:

FlakeNoir · Jun 25, 2020

Dana Jean said:
It's been gold, pony kids.

I must live and play (offline) with a bunch of mostly non-readers, because whenever I tell someone... "Stay gold, Ponyboy", they just stare at me, as though I have a long snot runnel leading from nose to lip. :laugh:

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