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Neesy

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As a teacher, I began to notice a shift by 1989--- the powers that be decided to empower children. Make it a win win situation. (something total unrealistic in a real world-- students learn by mistakes and failures) Adults, parents, teachers were told to step back- allow- "enable" the children. The result, that I observed, was less authority and the children became spoiled. There was less discipline within the classrooms, teachers fell under new rules. Students needed their space.
Society changed-- the world moved on-- it became unpopular to discipline your own child (and I do not mean by physical means). The guiding parent who once prepared their child for life, now was told to become their pal, buddy, friend. Yes, you can be both. However there has to be set rules-- cause and effect. Respect, responsibility, growth of self worth.

In my last years of teaching I have seen teachers be dismissed on the simple fact of requesting a student to came back into a room. The student saw it as an invasion of their space. Teachers were discouraged from showing any form of touching- even a handshake. During my school years I can recall teachers giving you a hug, praise and encouragement. Teachers are afraid to do any of that now. Teachers are just plain afraid to do anything other than attempt to teach to a classroom.

Parents -- not all, there are many who still guide their children and those children become wonderful adults-- made a disconnect. Economy played a role. Necessity for both parents to work. Less time with children, since they worked all day and many times brought their work home. It was easier to turn their eye and place blame on the teachers who had their hands tied.

Children of the spoiled generation are used to having their demands met by their parents and others in authority.

In no way am I saying every parent fits into this scenario. There are many, many caring,involved and guiding parents. This is simply what I have observed.
Thank you - great observation! I remember when they stopped getting children to 'sound out' words and sort of 'guess' at the word instead :no_pig:

At the same time as expecting the teachers to do everything (and blaming the teachers for everything) I also found that the schools were not all that sympathetic to those parents who did work.

I was a single parent with a special needs child in the 80s/90s - the school my son went to in 1994 sent home this flyer saying "of course we would prefer that children go home for a hot lunch!" [accompanied by a picture of a Mom squatting down and hugging her child] but if they MUST stay at school for lunch...etc.

Oh well - that's life, eh?

Being a female in the military as well, I was a bit of a minority :question_pig:

I guess overall Josh turned out fine but for many years it was a struggle to cope. Life has changed so much since our parents' time.

So much fast food, inactivity, social media, always being on the phone/computer

Well enough for now [I'll get off my soap box now]
:m_joy: Hang in there everyone with kids - things DO get better! (Love and Green Lights)
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arista

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I read that a mother is complaining that costumes are too sexualized for girls...Is it not the parents responsibility to determine what costume their child wears? Don't like it -Make one that you like and that the girl will want to wear.
 

Tery

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I read that a mother is complaining that costumes are too sexualized for girls...Is it not the parents responsibility to determine what costume their child wears? Don't like it -Make one that you like and that the girl will want to wear.

I agree with you. But the fact that these costumes are being made for younger girls is an indication of something very wrong in our society. Young girls being sexualized is something we should all be aware of and stop in its tracks.
 

80sFan

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I read that a mother is complaining that costumes are too sexualized for girls...Is it not the parents responsibility to determine what costume their child wears? Don't like it -Make one that you like and that the girl will want to wear.

I remember a few years ago, parents complaining about junk food and toy commercials during kids' shows.
Because these poor parents had to actually tell their kids "No" when the kids asked for things the parents didn't want them to have. Oh the horror! (And maybe limit your kids' exposure to commercial TV in the first place?)
I agree somewhat with Teri's reply too, that companies shouldn't be making revealing/inappropriate costumes for children, but again, if parents refused to buy them, they'd stop selling them.
 

danie

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I remember a few years ago, parents complaining about junk food and toy commercials during kids' shows.
And this has been the norm forever anyway. Saturday morning cartoons had nothing but toy and Cocoa Puffs commercials sandwiched between Bugs Bunny and Road Runner. I'm sure I could have turned rabid eating all those sugary breakfast cereals if my parents had let me. After hearing the word 'no' to most of those questions, we learned not to ask. Kids who get everything soon learn to expect to receive everything, and then the parents are stuck breaking bad habits.
 

80sFan

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And this has been the norm forever anyway. Saturday morning cartoons had nothing but toy and Cocoa Puffs commercials sandwiched between Bugs Bunny and Road Runner. I'm sure I could have turned rabid eating all those sugary breakfast cereals if my parents had let me. After hearing the word 'no' to most of those questions, we learned not to ask. Kids who get everything soon learn to expect to receive everything, and then the parents are stuck breaking bad habits.

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DiO'Bolic

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Or I may know something but I cannot say something. :wink:
Same difference. :)

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Walter Oobleck

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Probably. Oh, and Oomblech...would it kill ya to Capitalize now and then? or is it...too late?

Big letters cost just as much as the little ones. Just sayin. Three for a buck at my local Letterdashery.

you betcha! muskie! it's just a silly phase i'm going thru. give me time. i'll out-grow it eventually. note that i've not used...for a time now. two seconds? all other complaints must be submitted in triplicate, keep the yellow copy for yer self. but look at these lines...all nice and even, nothing standing up, a stump on your horizon. no need to get out the weed-whacker, little off the top, bub. knock me down to size. best regards, walter oobleck.
 
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