Article Regarding: Guns (an Essay By Stephen King)

Discussion in 'Guns' started by VampireLily, Nov 20, 2013.


    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...I am among the majority of gun owners who are "responsible"...there are more of us that are, than are beer swilling wing-nuts with itchy trigger fingers, and please-know that "fully machine fire " weapons are already illegal without special permit, or unless you are military, law enforcement etc...
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  2. EMTP513

    EMTP513 Well-Known Member

    Why would anyone boast about it? I was shot and clinically died before life flight saved me. Personally I think it was embarrassing to be shot especially because of how it happened.
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...consider the population in which I work...these 'bangers think it's a mark of distinction to have been shot multiple times...
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  4. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Because of liberal permissive constitutional protection and laws regarding gun ownership, we have the means to protect ourselves better than many others in the world. We also have an extremely high death rate from guns.

    Some people consider that a good trade-off. Others don't. Our Constitution favors those who do.
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  5. M&P15

    M&P15 New Member

    Obviously, I am biased on this issue, but I really don't understand why anyone cares about some celebrity's opinion. Mr King's field is writing excellent books as Ted Nugent's field is making crappy music. I personally couldn't care less what either thinks about guns.
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  6. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    No one should base their decisions about any topic solely on the opinion of a celebrity but to dismiss it out of hand just because they are a celebrity doesn't make much sense to me either.
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  7. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    1. Controlled, limited, and reasonable background checks which are readily available make sense. "Controlled and limited" due to respect for privacy, and "reasonable" meaning irrelevant facts about a person must not exclude him from being able to purchase a weapon.

    2. There should be absolutely no limit on magazine capacity. No one can know how many rounds I'll need to protect myself.

    3. There's no such thing as an "assault weapon". The term was coined by a Bill Clinton aide who was a gun control advocate. "Assault weapons" differ from other weapons capable of a certain degree of firepower only in appearance (Assault weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). I mention this intending to educate. I'm sicka people throwing around ant-gun terms as if they know wtf they're talking about when they don't.

    My first concern about gun control has to do with what the Founding Fathers knew when they escaped tyranny to come to the New World, who soon wrote the Bill of Rightsv(which of course was written to protect us, common American citizens), considering the right to keep and bear arms important enough to be second on their list. They knew more than any of us do. They experienced firsthand and from history that governments sometimes want to possess and oppress their subjects, and will when those subjects have no power to prevent them. The thing totalitarians - not only Nazis and Communists but any who disguise themselves as well-wishing good guys out to help the downtrodden - want to do is disarm their countries' subjects first. That's not opinion, it's historical fact.

    My second concern about gun control is that laws limiting gun owners in any way ironically cause more gun violence (a term I completely detest, btw) because criminals don't obey laws. Nothing at all, least of all gun laws, prevent criminals from getting guns, including so-called assault weapons, and of course criminals rarely go through legal channels. What prevents a criminal from shooting someone is when he sees or fears that the individual in his sights has a gun, too. It's common sense.

    To my chagrin, though I have an excuse, I haven't read sK's GUNS essay, mostly because there's no way any action causing gun control has not already proven itself nonsense, and also because I don't need the grief. I consider Mr King a friend (I don't know him, have never met him, yet still a friend). Most of my friends historically have leaned left politically. I don't know why that's been the case but it remains so. Maybe it's because I love people who have passion, and so-called liberals* are passionate. Of course, my reasons must include that I believe in many of the causes liberals believe in just as much or more than they do. I love and personally need true liberals enough to agree to disagree. After all, no two of us believe anything precisely the same way. I'll end this thus: I say that most of the members here are not what's known as Modern American Liberals*.
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