Coronavirus

[Moderator]

Well ... technically ... making a comment on the CDC would not be politics as politics only concerns the Government of the people, which the CDC isn't really involved with, then again: is it not a branch of the State Department? Well ...

Discussion of politics is nuanced. Simply saying something like not being on board with the CDC isn't HT territory IMO. Difference of opinion for others, maybe, but not something to get riled up about.

 

[Edward John]

Discussion of politics is nuanced. Simply saying something like not being on board with the CDC isn't HT territory IMO. Difference of opinion for others, maybe, but not something to get riled up about.

Unless you work for the CDC. Of which I'm sure a ton of SKMB members are.

 

[Moderator]

Unless you work for the CDC. Of which I'm sure a ton of SKMB members are.

I somehow doubt that and fairly sure that anyone who works for the CDC has to develop a thick skin.

 

[Edward John]

Hmmm ... I wonder if this horror show might prompt Steve to do a The Stand sequel ...
Also, the Metallica song, Ride the Lightning was based on The Stand, and the novel was inspired by a song by BOC.

 

[mal]

I suited up to grocery shop yesterday. I looked like a total nerd but I'm going to take care of myself.

My grocery store was very well stocked. It was quiet, very few people there. Everyone was being very respectful of the 6 feet distance rules. I felt pretty safe.

I went out yesterday for a restock as well. I went to Walmart and Costco. I got what I needed at Walmart, except for toilet paper. The physical distancing was not being monitored by security but with the hope that customers would manage themselves. And they did. The one 'fail' I found was that the aisles are not wide enough to prevent the proper distancing when passing. I think they should make aisles one-way until this is over. There were not that many customers inside so you could walk directly in.

When I arrived at the Costco I grabbed a cart and went for the entrance and, while walking there found that a few customers were waiting outside. As I got closer I saw that there was a lineup and people were being told when to enter by the staff (based on people leaving I assume). The line went around the corner and once I rounded the corner I had to walk the entire length of the building in order to get in line. As I was heading there, a staff member grabbed my cart and stated that there would be clean carts inside. The line moved relatively quickly and folks maintained their physical distance (not "Social" distance, it seems like we've forgotten how to use the language and go for neat sounding phrasing that'll sell). I grabbed my stuff, including one package of toilet paper (they had loads of it) and was on my way. No matter how busy Costco is they move you through quickly.
I wore a winter scarf which I threw over my face holes when inside and made sure I was wearing gloves (not as good as a medical mask I know but I figured it'd stop the big gobs of snot from someone sneezing or coughing). My pet peeve is that the electronic payment methods would only recognize my bare fingers so I had to take my gloves off to pay. Once I got home I washed up well, then did it again to make sure. I guess what I'm really trying to say here is that I have never waited so long to pick my nose in my entire life. Stay safe, be smart, and good luck! mal

 

[Moderator]

I went out yesterday for a restock as well. I went to Walmart and Costco. I got what I needed at Walmart, except for toilet paper. The physical distancing was not being monitored by security but with the hope that customers would manage themselves. And they did. The one 'fail' I found was that the aisles are not wide enough to prevent the proper distancing when passing. I think they should make aisles one-way until this is over. There were not that many customers inside so you could walk directly in.

When I arrived at the Costco I grabbed a cart and went for the entrance and, while walking there found that a few customers were waiting outside. As I got closer I saw that there was a lineup and people were being told when to enter by the staff (based on people leaving I assume). The line went around the corner and once I rounded the corner I had to walk the entire length of the building in order to get in line. As I was heading there, a staff member grabbed my cart and stated that there would be clean carts inside. The line moved relatively quickly and folks maintained their physical distance (not "Social" distance, it seems like we've forgotten how to use the language and go for neat sounding phrasing that'll sell). I grabbed my stuff, including one package of toilet paper (they had loads of it) and was on my way. No matter how busy Costco is they move you through quickly.
I wore a winter scarf which I threw over my face holes when inside and made sure I was wearing gloves (not as good as a medical mask I know but I figured it'd stop the big gobs of snot from someone sneezing or coughing). My pet peeve is that the electronic payment methods would only recognize my bare fingers so I had to take my gloves off to pay. Once I got home I washed up well, then did it again to make sure. I guess what I'm really trying to say here is that I have never waited so long to pick my nose in my entire life. Stay safe, be smart, and good luck! mal

Maybe using a pen you've brought in yourself (and then wipe down once you're done) would work the next time you're using the keypad. That's what I did the last time I went to the grocery store and it went through fine that way.

 

[mal]

Maybe using a pen you've brought in yourself (and then wipe down once you're done) would work the next time you're using the keypad. That's what I did the last time I went to the grocery store and it went through fine that way.

Thanks for the advice MsMod. I'll give that a try.

 

[Dana Jean]

I went out yesterday for a restock as well. I went to Walmart and Costco. I got what I needed at Walmart, except for toilet paper. The physical distancing was not being monitored by security but with the hope that customers would manage themselves. And they did. The one 'fail' I found was that the aisles are not wide enough to prevent the proper distancing when passing. I think they should make aisles one-way until this is over. There were not that many customers inside so you could walk directly in.

When I arrived at the Costco I grabbed a cart and went for the entrance and, while walking there found that a few customers were waiting outside. As I got closer I saw that there was a lineup and people were being told when to enter by the staff (based on people leaving I assume). The line went around the corner and once I rounded the corner I had to walk the entire length of the building in order to get in line. As I was heading there, a staff member grabbed my cart and stated that there would be clean carts inside. The line moved relatively quickly and folks maintained their physical distance (not "Social" distance, it seems like we've forgotten how to use the language and go for neat sounding phrasing that'll sell). I grabbed my stuff, including one package of toilet paper (they had loads of it) and was on my way. No matter how busy Costco is they move you through quickly.
I wore a winter scarf which I threw over my face holes when inside and made sure I was wearing gloves (not as good as a medical mask I know but I figured it'd stop the big gobs of snot from someone sneezing or coughing). My pet peeve is that the electronic payment methods would only recognize my bare fingers so I had to take my gloves off to pay. Once I got home I washed up well, then did it again to make sure. I guess what I'm really trying to say here is that I have never waited so long to pick my nose in my entire life. Stay safe, be smart, and good luck! mal

I brought a sandwich bag with some clorox wipes with me so I could wipe down things that needed it like the keypad. But, I also had gloves on and didn't have to take them off. But I still wiped down the keys. I just keep cleaning over and over as I go. It's almost like the steps they take to clean a surgical suite.

At my store, people would wait at the end of the aisles until you got what you needed, I would exit one way and they would enter the other. There was nobody telling us to do that, we just adulted and did it. We waited while someone got what they needed and stayed at the end of the aisle. But, the store was quiet enough for those of us in there to be courteous in this way. And nobody said a thing, we just did it.

 

[DiO'Bolic]

That's not thinking far enough long-term. These are meant to be safety measures taken for now while scientists are developing a vaccine and effective treatment. Once that happens we should be able to be less aggressive about this and consider it like other viruses where disinfecting etc. are common sense measures to take anyway. Not everyone gets the flu now because there are ways to prevent it and some people just don't for whatever reason. Speaking personally, I hardly ever get flu even when I wasn't getting annual flu shots so to speak in such broad terms as "everyone" will get it doesn't ring true for me. Studying whether having contracted and survived it gives people immunity should also be considered a top priority.

For many it's short-term that matters most right now. You can do everything you think you possible can to protect yourself and still acquire it. I think those who are in a high-risk category, and might be looking at lethal consequences, should be given the option to try experimental drugs without government interference, and provide protection for manufacturers who make them. I’ve read several scientists believe they have found a cure for the coronavirus. But testing usually takes at least 18 months before it can be approved. Why not let a person sign a waiver and get the experimental drugs if they’re facing a high probability of death? With my cancer treatment my immune system is shot to hell. I certainly would sign a waiver if I could get the drugs that show the most promise.

 

[Neesy]

Beauty and nail salons are still considered an "essential" business. Seriously?!

Is this all over the States?

I don't know for sure about my city and province (or even neighboring provinces) but this does seem quite ridiculous - I just figured they would all be closed by now.

 

[Spideyman]

I brought a sandwich bag with some clorox wipes with me so I could wipe down things that needed it like the keypad. But, I also had gloves on and didn't have to take them off. But I still wiped down the keys. I just keep cleaning over and over as I go. It's almost like the steps they take to clean a surgical suite.

At my store, people would wait at the end of the aisles until you got what you needed, I would exit one way and they would enter the other. There was nobody telling us to do that, we just adulted and did it. We waited while someone got what they needed and stayed at the end of the aisle. But, the store was quiet enough for those of us in there to be courteous in this way. And nobody said a thing, we just did it.

Been reading everyone's experiences in store during this time of social distancing-- I feel like my part of the world is in total denial. Grocery store-- people reaching over you to grab this that, no distancing. Beauty shop( essential??) open- police close- open again. Traffic as usual. No empty roads.

 

[Dana Jean]

Been reading everyone's experiences in store during this time of social distancing-- I feel like my part of the world is in total denial. Grocery store-- people reaching over you to grab this that, no distancing. Beauty shop( essential??) open- police close- open again. Traffic as usual. No empty roads.

Those are the ones who will "decrease the surplus population."

 

[Edward John]

For many it's short-term that matters most right now. You can do everything you think you possible can to protect yourself and still acquire it. I think those who are in a high-risk category, and might be looking at lethal consequences, should be given the option to try experimental drugs without government interference, and provide protection for manufacturers who make them. I’ve read several scientists believe they have found a cure for the coronavirus. But testing usually takes at least 18 months before it can be approved. Why not let a person sign a waiver and get the experimental drugs if they’re facing a high probability of death? With my cancer treatment my immune system is shot to hell. I certainly would sign a waiver if I could get the drugs that show the most promise.

Sometimes the vaccine can be worse than the disease. That is why they need to do all that testing and the government wont put something out unless they are certain that it is safe.

 

[DiO'Bolic]

Those are the ones who will "decrease the surplus population."

But they'll take the good guys with them.

 

[DiO'Bolic]

Sometimes the vaccine can be worse than the disease. That is why they need to do all that testing and the government wont put something out unless they are certain that it is safe.

If you feel that way then fine, don't take them. I, for one, would take them in this emergency situation. It's my decision and I accept the consequences of my actions.

 

[Dana Jean]

But they'll take the good guys with them.

yes they will.

 

[Moderator]

Is this all over the States?

I don't know for sure about my city and province (or even neighboring provinces) but this does seem quite ridiculous - I just figured they would all be closed by now.

No, it varies from place to place which is why it's been difficult to really get a handle on this.

 

[Neesy]

No, it varies from place to place which is why it's been difficult to really get a handle on this.

Same here (I was just looking it up) but it looks like amendments have now been made across the country, according to the Public Health Act

 

[wolfphoenix]

For many it's short-term that matters most right now. You can do everything you think you possible can to protect yourself and still acquire it. I think those who are in a high-risk category, and might be looking at lethal consequences, should be given the option to try experimental drugs without government interference, and provide protection for manufacturers who make them. I’ve read several scientists believe they have found a cure for the coronavirus. But testing usually takes at least 18 months before it can be approved. Why not let a person sign a waiver and get the experimental drugs if they’re facing a high probability of death? With my cancer treatment my immune system is shot to hell. I certainly would sign a waiver if I could get the drugs that show the most promise.

Cancer treatment?
....damn Dio, you are tough gunslinger.

 

[wolfphoenix]

But they'll take the good guys with them.

Not all of the good guys.
And quite a few Bundy's, Gary's and Hitler's too.