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Sundrop

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Our local Randall's grocery store closed in January, so we participated in the liquidation sale and were already well stocked up on many things before the crisis hit. One thing we went looking for specifically and didn't find was powdered milk -- but I did eventually find some at HEB online for delivery. I'm working from home for the next two to three weeks. We're enjoying cooking meals, but that's something we do a lot anyway. A friend of mine introduced me to his pizza making course and we've been getting a lot of mileage out of that. I feel bad for the small businesses and restaurants, though. If this goes on for a couple of months, it's going to be a whole new world on the other end of it.
It's already bad for self employed hair stylists. I usually see between 30 and 70 people a week. This week, I have a grand total four on the book for the week.
 

Jojo87

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Finland borders is closed no one is going out and no one can come in ( except Finnish citizen who needs to get back into the country, but they are in quarantine for
two weeks when they get back) Schools in my country are closed from tomorrow ( students do the teaching at home until next month) and many public places too. Grocery stores stays open of course people needs food. No more than 10 people in the same place, so all big event are cancelled. I work in a kindergarten kitchen, all kindergarten all still open. since some parents who have to go to their jobs must have a place to put their small children in. So work continue for me at least. Almost 300 corona cases in Finland already and now my hometown have 2 corona case also and 17 people are exposed.

Now this corona stuff really starts to scare me too. Even if there is no big panic here yet, except that people here in Finland have emptied grocery store from toilet paper and all other food as well. It looked a lot like a apocalypse here last week. Thankfully that trend calmed down and we still get food from the stores.

Lets just pray that everything end well on this earth.
 

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Kurben

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Over 1000 cases now. 7 dead. And thats just the confirmed ones. So far the stores, of all sorts, keep open but i saw a little store with an ingenious constructed device today. The man behind the counter had made his own design of a hard plastic thingy that separated him from the customers, He could see through it and it was high enough so that the customer cant sneeze or cough at him. The costumer puts his items on the desk on the side of this dvice and he adds up the cost without touching if possibly. I consider it a sensible precaution in his line of work, to minimize the contact. The buses here in Stockholm has closed the front door so the driver wont get infected and the buses can keep going. You go in through the door in the back instead where you go off in normal cases. Also a sensible idea.
 

Rrty

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It's impossible to read through all the posts, forgive me. Jumping on here to see what people think about a couple things (may have already been mentioned, sorry).

I've been thinking about masks. Is the reason for the advice not to wear masks solely because of the shortage? I'm wondering, for the next pandemic, should everyone stock masks like smoke/CO detectors and then use them? What I'm getting at is we've been told masks are not effective at stopping the spread of Cov2, but that can't be correct, can it? If you go to a medical office, whether PCP or emergent, and you show symptoms of say the flu pre-Cov-2, you are told to wear a mask because you might be contagious. Fair enough; why, then, shouldn't everyone wear a mask at this point, beyond the shortage? I'm just trying to get an intellectual handle on what exactly is contraindicated about masks. You do have to use and treat them properly, but assuming that is the case, then shouldn't we assume everyone is asymptomatic and be wearing masks? I've been bothered by this messaging on the part of the CDC.

If we are starting now to get shelter-in-place orders in some areas (or have the strong potential of it), what are we to do about supermarket cashiers? They need masks, certainly. But beyond that, in my area they are not limiting people in at any given time. Shouldn't there be an order of only so many people in, only so many items purchased, pay by cashless payment, and maybe even round up to the nearest dollar to reduce friction (just collect it as a local tax, or donation to the poor)? It seems the point-of-sale is not being addressed.

Finally, for the next pandemic: once a few confirmed cases of a serious RNA/SARS-type genetic material is in the country, should we ramp up our response to this point more quickly to stop the spread?

Very scary out there, hope everyone is well (and can someone summarize any info in the thread about people who have it? is it truly as bad as I read, even with milder cases?)...

Best of luck to all...
 

wolfphoenix

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Masks are not doing the uninfected any good. They end up putting their hands to their faces even more, keeping the things in place or adjusting them. Everyone needs to quit hoarding them and leave them for the medical pros who really need them.
THAT has been all over in the news too.
 

wolfphoenix

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Over 1000 cases now. 7 dead. And thats just the confirmed ones. So far the stores, of all sorts, keep open but i saw a little store with an ingenious constructed device today. The man behind the counter had made his own design of a hard plastic thingy that separated him from the customers, He could see through it and it was high enough so that the customer cant sneeze or cough at him. The costumer puts his items on the desk on the side of this dvice and he adds up the cost without touching if possibly. I consider it a sensible precaution in his line of work, to minimize the contact. The buses here in Stockholm has closed the front door so the driver wont get infected and the buses can keep going. You go in through the door in the back instead where you go off in normal cases. Also a sensible idea.
Don't the passengers still have to go up to the front of the buses to pay, if they don't have a pass to flash at the driver?
 

wolfphoenix

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End of Days', (2008) written by late Sylvia Brown...

"In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness wil
End of Days', (2008) written by late Sylvia Brown...

"In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely,"
I remember her.
Great post Dio!
 

Dana Jean

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It's impossible to read through all the posts, forgive me. Jumping on here to see what people think about a couple things (may have already been mentioned, sorry).

I've been thinking about masks. Is the reason for the advice not to wear masks solely because of the shortage? I'm wondering, for the next pandemic, should everyone stock masks like smoke/CO detectors and then use them? What I'm getting at is we've been told masks are not effective at stopping the spread of Cov2, but that can't be correct, can it? If you go to a medical office, whether PCP or emergent, and you show symptoms of say the flu pre-Cov-2, you are told to wear a mask because you might be contagious. Fair enough; why, then, shouldn't everyone wear a mask at this point, beyond the shortage? I'm just trying to get an intellectual handle on what exactly is contraindicated about masks. You do have to use and treat them properly, but assuming that is the case, then shouldn't we assume everyone is asymptomatic and be wearing masks? I've been bothered by this messaging on the part of the CDC.

If we are starting now to get shelter-in-place orders in some areas (or have the strong potential of it), what are we to do about supermarket cashiers? They need masks, certainly. But beyond that, in my area they are not limiting people in at any given time. Shouldn't there be an order of only so many people in, only so many items purchased, pay by cashless payment, and maybe even round up to the nearest dollar to reduce friction (just collect it as a local tax, or donation to the poor)? It seems the point-of-sale is not being addressed.

Finally, for the next pandemic: once a few confirmed cases of a serious RNA/SARS-type genetic material is in the country, should we ramp up our response to this point more quickly to stop the spread?

Very scary out there, hope everyone is well (and can someone summarize any info in the thread about people who have it? is it truly as bad as I read, even with milder cases?)...

Best of luck to all...
And the virus can live 2 to 3 days on surfaces. So, while you are wiping down your shopping cart, think of all the people who have touched the pad to input information while paying. Are you wiping that down? And then you go out to your car and you put your hands on your car door, and on your steering wheel and on your phone after touching money or card input buttons. The change you get back is loaded with the drips and drools of other humans. Handled by potentially hundreds of people.

And when you walk into your home, do you take your shoes off? Because your shoes are carrying in the outside world. Sneezes and coughs that drifted down to the floor that you just walked on and then put all over your break and gas pedal and shuffled through your house.

We don't live in a bubble that's for sure, but we can all do our part to just be team players. We can be proactive, reactive or ignorers. All have their strengths and weaknesses. Well, ignorers are all weakness in my eyes and being reactive after the fact is pretty weak too. Proactive is the best path in my opinion.
 
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kingricefan

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Just got off the phone with my dentist. I had scheduled an appointment for this Thursday but called to cancel it. She said that the ADA has sent out a letter to all dentists that they are to immediately shut down their offices. She also said that it's more for the dentists protection since, for the patients, everything is sterilized.
 

Steffen

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Hey friends, just checking in to say a quick hello to everyone.

The virus has hit Trinidad & Tobago where I live. Five cases from Thursday 12/03 to present. I'm working from home for the next few weeks. The Government has ordered the closure of all bars, etc. Cinemas are closed. Public gatherings are discouraged. Our borders are closed to everything except cargo ships for the next two weeks. My mom is in an elderly care home and even though they are taking all precautions, I'm still concerned about her. I'm limiting my outdoor activities, going out only for quick meetings or to get supplies. The panic buying here is just as stupid as everywhere else.

We used to say the world is changing. But change is officially here. Whenever this whole thing dies down, we need to re-think the way we do basically everything.

In the meantime, stay safe and listen to (and heed) the advice of the experts. And please, more than ever, try to be kind to one another.

Love you folks. Be good.
 

Dana Jean

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Hey friends, just checking in to say a quick hello to everyone.

The virus has hit Trinidad & Tobago where I live. Five cases from Thursday 12/03 to present. I'm working from home for the next few weeks. The Government has ordered the closure of all bars, etc. Cinemas are closed. Public gatherings are discouraged. Our borders are closed to everything except cargo ships for the next two weeks. My mom is in an elderly care home and even though they are taking all precautions, I'm still concerned about her. I'm limiting my outdoor activities, going out only for quick meetings or to get supplies. The panic buying here is just as stupid as everywhere else.

We used to say the world is changing. But change is officially here. Whenever this whole thing dies down, we need to re-think the way we do basically everything.

In the meantime, stay safe and listen to (and heed) the advice of the experts. And please, more than ever, try to be kind to one another.

Love you folks. Be good.
stay safe out there in the big world. Check in with us now and then so we know you're hanging in there.
 
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