Double-barreled military recognition

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DiO'Bolic

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The letter from Hitler is a fascinating piece of historical trivia that I wasn't aware of, although it's not surprising. Thanks for sharing that.

Knowing you, even as little as I do, I can sense the disappointment you feel for having tried and been turned down. Back in my platoon, we had a guy who was just practically a poster Marine in the making. Very smart, very fit, very good-looking, great team attitude. It turned out that in his youth, he'd had a skin graft on his lower leg, and by the time he made it to third phase of boot camp, the graft was getting irritated and skin sloughing off and getting infected from rubbing on the boot. Everyone liked him, and the powers that be did their best to find a way to keep him in. But you can't be a Marine and not be able to suit up for combat. He was let go from the Marines, with just two-plus months of hell (boot camp) to show for it, not even having been in long enough to get any kind of benefits or qualify for a medical/honorable discharge. Just so disappointing.

I have no doubt but that with your sense of loyalty and commitment, you would've made a fine comrade in arms. Thank you very much, DiO, for having your heart in the right place and giving it your best shot, and continuing to honor those who did go through service. I'm sorry that you went through that piece of life's frustration.
Thanks for that but I have to admit it wasn’t so patriotic on my part. I was a hippie at the time and delayed registering for the draft for two months after turning 18. I had just dropped out of college after one semester in order to get married, with a baby on the way. Desperately trying to find full time employment at a time when manufacturing was on a downturn and people were being laid off, I thought joining the Navy would provide the needed security for us, and education assistance afterward. And we were pulling our troops out of Vietnam at the time. My wife and baby would have stayed with her parents on the family compound during my service. Although my in-laws were rather well off, they felt you needed to make your own way through life, and would not provide me with a job within the company. My father and new father-in-law, having both been in the service, agreed that joining the armed services was a good path for me to take at the time. But you are correct in that rejection is a hard pill to swallow, and to this day I regret I was unable to serve.
 

Neesy

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November 10. Happy birthday, Marines!

270 years ago today, at Tun Tavern (what would be a more appropriate place to begin the Marine Corps than a bar?), Philadelphia, the first Marine recruitment began.

The first guy walks in, signs up, walks out.

The very next guy, walks in, signs up, walks out. He sees the first guy. "Well, this is something isn't it?" the second guy says.

"Nah," says the first guy. "You shoulda seen the old Corps!"

(This is probably funnier if you've been in the Marines.)

Happy birthday, Marines!

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November 11, 1918.

Following the abdication of the Kaiser, the Germans looked to an end to the conflict. An armistice was signed at 6:00 a.m. on that day, dictating that the cease-fire would take place at 11:00 a.m.

Many Allied commanders, either not hearing the news, or not believing it would occur, or trying to gain whatever battle leverage was left, nevertheless sent their troops "over the top" that morning. Nothing was gained, but over 10,000 Americans fell to German gunfire in a useless effort that would be farcical if not so tragic.

Before the final hour, gunfire subsided in some quarters but increased in many others. Nevertheless, at 11:00 a.m., (almost all) the guns, which had been roaring continuously to that time, fell silent. In some places, troops that were former enemies crossed no-man's land to shake hands of the troops they'd been shooting at for the last four years.

Following an unprecedented cost in lives, the Great War was finally over. The relief swept the world. It became known in many countries as Armistice Day, and the term "in the 11th hour" took hold as the ultimate deadline - the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month when the war machine finally quieted.

Ultimately, the great powers would go through it all again, but worse next time with uncomprehensible death, destruction, and evil wrought upon humanity.

Armistice Day faded in the U.S., and a new name of Veterans Day emerged, as a time to honor all those who put their lives at risk for service to their country.

Happy Veterans Day to those who undertake such an honor; and may we stop having to endure the madness of this violence among ourselves in the not too distant future.
Happy Veterans Day to you too, Grandpa - thanks for your years of service to your country :unclesam:
 

staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
Nov 28, 2006
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In memory of the OTHER veterans of the USA and Canada...Lest We Forget..............................................

This November, the BC SPCA joins fellow Canadians in remembering and honouring the men and women who have risked or lost their lives in times of war. While doing so, we also recognize the contributions and sacrifices of the millions of war animals.

“The number of animals who have been used in war is actually quite staggering,” says Craig Naherniak, BC SPCA general manager of humane education. In World War I alone, eight million horses were killed and another 2.5 million injured transporting soldiers, arms and supplies into battle.

Perhaps not surprisingly, dogs have also played a significant role in wartimes, rescuing soldiers and civilians, delivering messages, acting as watchdogs and detecting dangerous gases, explosives and landmines. “Some dogs even parachuted behind enemy lines,” says Naherniak.

Along with horses and dogs, the list of types of animals employed in war is extensive, from birds and rodents sent into tunnels to detect poisonous gas to donkeys, reindeer and elephants used to carry heavy loads. Animals have also been kept by military units as pets and mascots, offering comfort and companionship and helping to boost morale among troops. Cats have often fallen into this category, though they have also served by catching rats on ships and carrying messages around their necks onto the battlefield.

Naherniak adds that even animals as small as glowworms have been used in war. “They gave off soft light that allowed soldiers to see maps and messages in the dark, without tipping off the enemy.”

At both a national and international level, efforts have been made to officially commemorate the service of war animals. In London, the Animals in War Memorial in Hyde Park officially opened on Nov. 24, 2004; its inscription includes the words, “They had no choice.” Taking its cue from the London memorial, the Canadian Animals in War Dedication was unveiled in Ottawa’s Confederation Park on Nov. 3, 2012.

Individual animals have also been honoured. The Dickin Medal, also known as the animals’ Victoria Cross, was established in 1943 to recognize animals who had shown “conspicuous gallantry or devotion to duty while serving or associated with any branch of the Armed Forces or Civil Defence Units.” From 1943 to 1949, 54 animals received the medal. Amongst them were dogs, horses and one cat, but the majority of recipients were carrier pigeons. With a good sense of direction and the ability to fly up to 100 kilometres an hour, these animals flew through difficult weather conditions and direct gunfire to deliver important messages, saving lives as a result.

After 51 years, the Dickin Medal was revived in 2000 to honour Gander, a Newfoundland dog whose actions saved the lives of Canadian infantrymen during the Battle of Lye Mun in December 1941. Most recently, in April 2014, a dog named Sasha, who served as an arms and explosives search dog in Afghanistan, was posthumously awarded the medal.


While recognizing the contributions of Dickin Medal recipients, Naherniak notes that for every brave animal like Sasha or Gander, there are hundreds of thousands of anonymous war animals. “Countless animals, named and unnamed, have served and saved human lives in the process. This Remembrance Day, let’s remember and honour them all.”
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Cat - Roll of Honour

Simon

Date of Award: awarded posthumously 1949
“Served on HMS Amethyst during the Yangtze Incident, disposing of many rats though wounded by shell blast. Throughout the incident his behaviour was of the highest order, although the blast was capable of making a hole over a foot in diameter in a steel plate.”
 
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Grandpa

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Thanks for that but I have to admit it wasn’t so patriotic on my part. I was a hippie at the time and delayed registering for the draft for two months after turning 18. I had just dropped out of college after one semester in order to get married, with a baby on the way. Desperately trying to find full time employment at a time when manufacturing was on a downturn and people were being laid off, I thought joining the Navy would provide the needed security for us, and education assistance afterward. And we were pulling our troops out of Vietnam at the time. My wife and baby would have stayed with her parents on the family compound during my service. Although my in-laws were rather well off, they felt you needed to make your own way through life, and would not provide me with a job within the company. My father and new father-in-law, having both been in the service, agreed that joining the armed services was a good path for me to take at the time. But you are correct in that rejection is a hard pill to swallow, and to this day I regret I was unable to serve.

I wasn't much different. Can't say I was a hippie, but kinda shiftless at the time, working the factory, having fun with the new wife, and all we knew was that we wanted a ticket out of the home town. Probably around the same time you were looking at, with Vietnam pretty well wound down. Wife and I talked about the military. I went to the combined recruiting station. The guy standing outside at the moment was a Marine. The rest, as they say, is history.

I sweated out my draft number in college. I cheered when it was 256, because they were taking the top third. Then a few years later, I joined the Marines. Go figure.
 

staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
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These sentiments expressed by the Suns editor today in Edmonton can embrace the veterans of the USA as well......................

Every year, on the eleventh day of the eleventh month at the eleventh hour, we remember.

That moment in time marks the signing of the armistice that ended the First World War in 1918.

But we remember all members of our military who made the supreme sacrifice on our behalf.

Who paid with their lives because blood is the price that freedom often demands.

So we pause, for two minutes of silence, on this Remembrance Day.

And in that silence, we remember the 284 Canadians who gave their lives serving in the Boer War, the 68,000 who died in the First World War, the 47,000 who died in the Second World War, the 516 who died in the Korean War, the 116 who died on UN peacekeeping missions and the 158 who died in the war in Afghanistan.

This year, as well, we remember Cpl. Nathan Cirillo and Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent, both of whom died in uniform, serving us, in cowardly attacks by home-grown terrorists.

We remember, as well, all those who returned from war, forever scarred, physically and emotionally, from its horrors.

We remember the grief of those who lost their loved ones in war, or saw them return from war broken and changed.

We remember, too, all those who served and were reunited in joy with their families.

With all those who fought in the First World War now gone, we honour their memory.

We honour the dwindling ranks of living veterans from the Second World War, and from every subsequent conflict up to this day.

We do this not to glorify war, for war is unspeakable, horrible, the last thing a civilized nation should embark on, even when the cause is just.

War is the last resort, not the first, and we should do everything we can to avoid war, save for those times when tyranny and terrorism must be confronted.

Today we honour all our war veterans.

But we must not forget them the other 364 days of the year.

We must look after them as they age and see that the families of our soldiers who fell or were wounded in war are supported, emotionally and financially.

Not just on this day, or in this year, but forever.
 

MadamMack

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Apr 11, 2006
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"Above and Beyond..."
Dog tags hang from the ceiling of the National Vietnam Veterans Art Museum on Veterans Day, Thursday Nov. 11, 2010 in Chicago. The work of art, an immense 10 x 40 foot sculpture entitled Above and Beyond, is comprised of imprinted dog tags, one for each of the more than 58,000 service men and women who died in the Vietnam War.
The black dog tag honors all the soldiers that took part in the Vietnam Theater that have died from various causes after they left Vietnam. These deaths were not directly from enemy action in Vietnam but are attributed to the theater by the fellow veterans that served there. These causes are suicide, agent orange, lingering disease, depression, substance abuse, unemployability, homelessness, and other causes stemming from service in Vietnam.

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staropeace

Richard Bachman's love child
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When I ran the homeless shelter, I was privilized to meet a Vietnam vet who was actually a native from Alberta. He signed up for this duty with the US army. He won all kinds of medals while serving and was now homeless. The CEO and myself pushed the hospital to take him on as geriatric. That was after I saw Leo walking around on the streets on Christmas day in bare bleeding feet. He is safe now ...warm and comfortable. Please remember all the vets who need our help. They are to be honored not forgotten about.
 

Dana Jean

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"Above and Beyond..."
Dog tags hang from the ceiling of the National Vietnam Veterans Art Museum on Veterans Day, Thursday Nov. 11, 2010 in Chicago. The work of art, an immense 10 x 40 foot sculpture entitled Above and Beyond, is comprised of imprinted dog tags, one for each of the more than 58,000 service men and women who died in the Vietnam War.
The black dog tag honors all the soldiers that took part in the Vietnam Theater that have died from various causes after they left Vietnam. These deaths were not directly from enemy action in Vietnam but are attributed to the theater by the fellow veterans that served there. These causes are suicide, agent orange, lingering disease, depression, substance abuse, unemployability, homelessness, and other causes stemming from service in Vietnam.

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So sad, but beautiful