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Dana Jean

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I have this in my queue to watch, even though so many of these cases you think have just been scrutinized beyond anything new, I always pick up something new when new minds and ideas and information come to light.

Who was their first person of focus? Do they break it down like that?
 

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I have this in my queue to watch, even though so many of these cases you think have just been scrutinized beyond anything new, I always pick up something new when new minds and ideas and information come to light.

Who was their first person of focus? Do they break it down like that?
They're doing it more from the angle of developing the research to do profiling. The interviews with the criminals are fascinating, but they're not the main focus. I think one of the agents is sort of a sociopath in his own right.
The first person they interview is Ed Kemper.
 

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They're doing it more from the angle of developing the research to do profiling. The interviews with the criminals are fascinating, but they're not the main focus. I think one of the agents is sort of a sociopath in his own right.
The first person they interview is Ed Kemper.
I will definitely be checking this out.
 
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Keep us posted on things that surprised you or you learned new about the criminal mind. Fascinating stuff.
The thing that surprised me about Kemer is that he was highly intelligent, and well brought up. He spoke as if he was merely doing his job.....and was so damn polite. He is a recurring character in the series, and it is evident that he know how to manipulate the agent dealing with him.
 

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The thing that surprised me about Kemer is that he was highly intelligent, and well brought up. He spoke as if he was merely doing his job.....and was so damn polite. He is a recurring character in the series, and it is evident that he know how to manipulate the agent dealing with him.
That seems to be the case with many of this prolific killers. Intelligent but instead of using all those smarts for something positive, they go another way. But like you said, he felt like he was doing something positive, doing his job.

I always try to remember, you never know who you are dealing with.
 
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That seems to be the case with many of this prolific killers. Intelligent but instead of using all those smarts for something positive, they go another way. But like you said, he felt like he was doing something positive, doing his job.

I always try to remember, you never know who you are dealing with.
So far, they all share the characteristic of having been raised by a domineering single mother who has humiliated and ridiculed them almost constantly. It's been really interesting learning how basic criminal profiling began and was developed. Also interesting to see how theories were developed and profiling came into being.
Manson and Berkowitz are mentioned, but so far haven't been featured. When the series opens, they've both already been arrested, and they are mentioned during a segment featuring a class at Quantico, but I get the feeling they won't be used in the series because their arrests happened before profiling was a thing. There is also a character featured in the opening of every episode, but he hasn't been named yet. I think he's going to turn out to be Dennis Raider.
 

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So far, they all share the characteristic of having been raised by a domineering single mother who has humiliated and ridiculed them almost constantly. It's been really interesting learning how basic criminal profiling began and was developed. Also interesting to see how theories were developed and profiling came into being.
Manson and Berkowitz are mentioned, but so far haven't been featured. When the series opens, they've both already been arrested, and they are mentioned during a segment featuring a class at Quantico, but I get the feeling they won't be used in the series because their arrests happened before profiling was a thing. There is also a character featured in the opening of every episode, but he hasn't been named yet. I think he's going to turn out to be Dennis Raider.
Jeffrey Dahmer seems to be one that they feel was actually honest with them in discussing why he did what he did. How he became who he was. Apparently, they have to be careful with these guys, because like you mentioned, they are manipulators and a lot of times, they tell them what they want to hear, or they sensationalize their activities. Play games.

I've heard it said many times that they felt Jeffrey was one that was honest in his discussions about who he was, what he did. His thoughts and feelings about the crimes and himself and his family. Interesting.
 
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Mindhunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit by John E. Douglas and Mark Olshaker

You should also try Violent Mind: The 1976 Psychological Assessment of Ted Bundy by Al Carlisle. What's particularly interesting about this book is that the profile was conducted before everyone knew for sure Bundy was a killer. There were suspicions, but only that, so it's fascinating to see what Bundy revealed about himself during these interviews.
Checking Barnes & Noble website now.