The Walking Dead ***please use SPOILER tags***

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Ebdim9th - I reckon we're going to have to agree to disagree on one point, there. They did the right thing, more or less, but got the pacing wrong. IMO, it was a bit "...and this happened and this and this and this. And then, suddenly..."
I've also got a problem with the 'method of delivery'.
TV and film always makes throat-slitting look easy. It isn't. There's lots of sinew, muscle and gristle to get through. Just using your teeth...man. Uncooked skin is tough by nature. It has to be. Rick'd need teeth and jaws like a bloody wolf to put that kind of bite on someone so quickly and easily. Easier by far to butt the bridge of Joe's nose, hoof him in the happy sacs as he reels backwards, give him a quick kick to the inside/back of his knee, then wrench his head around (that also takes more effort than is often depicted, but it's more plausible. Whether it's as bad-ass is debatable). The whole move would take seconds, as it's fluid action - bish, bash, bosh, done.
Mr. Nobody... you're sweet and all of that but... (re spoiler) would you be terribly offended if brought along someone big, burly and trained in the (I dunno?) special forces--were I to meet you in a dark alley? ;;D :biggrin2:
 

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Seems to me there are documented instances of parents showing super human strength to save their children.

Rick has lost everything.....except Carl. I can accept this super human strength in this moment more then him beating the guy in the bathroom to death. He was still recovering then, and his son's life was not in imminent peril. (Did I word that properly. I am so tired.)
 

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Mr. Nobody, AnnaMarie stole my thunder... there are documented cases of parents ripping car doors right off the hinges to save children from fire, or people wired on crack or meth throwing cops around like rag-dolls and taking three or four killing shots without stopping before eventually being brought down (most recently that bath salts cannibal case)....
 
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Regarding number 16.

when I was a kid, my friend's little brother did a lot of tv, shows and commercials. He did an ad for pudding cups. He was sitting on the back of a bike (another kid was driving the bike) and he takes one or two spoonfuls of pudding. By the end of filming, they had a bucket beside him, which would spit it into. Years later, he still could not eat pudding.

He was later offered a commercial for a cereal. He turned it down because it was his favourite cereal, and he figured by the end of filming he'd hate it.
 

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We had recorded Resurrection and watched the previous shows earlier, so we watched it last night. Not as good as WD.
I-Robot was on TV here tonight and while I'm not (at all) opposed to seeing Will Smith in the shower... the movie couldn't hold my attention for long, I was mourning the loss of The W-Dead characters/story... okay fine, I was missing Daryl! :D

So, I hopped online to moderate for a while instead. :biggrin2:
 

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Mr. Nobody... you're sweet and all of that but... (re spoiler) would you be terribly offended if brought along someone big, burly and trained in the (I dunno?) special forces--were I to meet you in a dark alley? ;;D :biggrin2:

lol. Not at all. Though, being somewhat trained and all, you still wouldn't find me down a dark alley in the first place. :smile2:

Mr. Nobody, AnnaMarie stole my thunder... there are documented cases of parents ripping car doors right off the hinges to save children from fire, or people wired on crack or meth throwing cops around like rag-dolls and taking three or four killing shots without stopping before eventually being brought down (most recently that bath salts cannibal case)....

Yep. Hysterical strength. It's what Dr Banner was researching when he gave himself a nice overdose of gamma radiation (in the 70s TV series, at least). I don't doubt it can happen, though there's no way of knowing whether there was any metal fatigue or structural damage in the cases of the car doors (presumably, they crashed) and since it's a rather peculiar set of circumstances, and even then doesn't occur in every case, by nature it'd be next to impossible to recreate and measure under controlled conditions. As I say, though, I don't doubt that it happens.
Even so, such a bite would have taken longer and would have required movement. Even dogs and wolves would have to pull back, twisting their heads to tear the meat away. Nor was there any evidence that Rick was hepped up on crack or meth. On the basis of all that, I still don't buy it.
But it's like this: if you can accept it, fine. If you think it was a strong moment, OK. I didn't accept it - it yanked me out of the story, and that's never a good thing - and still can't/don't. Because it took me out of the story, it became and remains a weak moment, for me. Ultimately, it's as I said to my mate when we discussed the same thing over the weekend, you can be a big fan of the show and still point out things that, in your opinion, really didn't work. (That was because, while you're not (or at least don't seem to be), he's one of those who won't hear a single word said against anything to do with TWD and went totally fanboy when I expressed criticism.)
 

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OK. I didn't accept it - it yanked me out of the story, and that's never a good thing - and still can't/don't

I get that. While I didn't feel that way about this show, I've felt it with a completely different situation in a completely different show.

when I'm watching a show and someone has an allergic reaction it often yanks me right out of the story. Sometimes because it's absolutely stupid and does nothing for the story other than make fun of people (smurfs) and other times because they deal with it wrong (inject epi in the wrong place or backwards). Either can yank me right out of the story.
 
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LEt's see Zombies totally acceptable and man who is distraught with possibility of son being raped-Can't bite another man's throat?? just saying.

I guess a bit of unbelievability in a show about zombies doesn't bother me much either lol.

On The Talking Dead, Andrew Lincoln said, "Greg Nicotero kept sidling up to me in the week leading up to the shooting of this scene and he kept saying, we've got to talk about the gag, meaning the bite gag.

"He said 'chicken or beef' and I was like, "Well I suppose everything apparently tastes like chicken, so I'll shoot for the chicken'. Then he went 'cooked or uncooked' and I knew it was a test.

"I just went, 'Well what would be the closest to real flesh?' and he went 'uncooked' and I said, 'Well, then that’s what I'll be doing'. At 4.30 in the morning with a mouth full of blood and raw chicken, it was the wrong call."
 
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I get that. While I didn't feel that way about this show, I've felt it with a completely different situation in a completely different show.

when I'm watching a show and someone has an allergic reaction it often yanks me right out of the story. Sometimes because it's absolutely stupid and does nothing for the story other than make fun of people (smurfs) and other times because they deal with it wrong (inject epi in the wrong place or backwards). Either can yank me right out of the story.

I have a problem with shows that depict people having asthma attacks. I keep telling the tv that asthma is not noisy! there's a difference between someone gasping for air after a long run and someone who can't get air into their lungs.
 

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lol. Not at all. Though, being somewhat trained and all, you still wouldn't find me down a dark alley in the first place. :smile2:



Yep. Hysterical strength. It's what Dr Banner was researching when he gave himself a nice overdose of gamma radiation (in the 70s TV series, at least). I don't doubt it can happen, though there's no way of knowing whether there was any metal fatigue or structural damage in the cases of the car doors (presumably, they crashed) and since it's a rather peculiar set of circumstances, and even then doesn't occur in every case, by nature it'd be next to impossible to recreate and measure under controlled conditions. As I say, though, I don't doubt that it happens.
Even so, such a bite would have taken longer and would have required movement. Even dogs and wolves would have to pull back, twisting their heads to tear the meat away. Nor was there any evidence that Rick was hepped up on crack or meth. On the basis of all that, I still don't buy it.
But it's like this: if you can accept it, fine. If you think it was a strong moment, OK. I didn't accept it - it yanked me out of the story, and that's never a good thing - and still can't/don't. Because it took me out of the story, it became and remains a weak moment, for me. Ultimately, it's as I said to my mate when we discussed the same thing over the weekend, you can be a big fan of the show and still point out things that, in your opinion, really didn't work. (That was because, while you're not (or at least don't seem to be), he's one of those who won't hear a single word said against anything to do with TWD and went totally fanboy when I expressed criticism.)

Yep. No fangirl here. I love the show and the comics, but they're, well... COMICS--lol. It's all in fun. Everyone has their tics that toss them right out of suspension of disbelief. Historical inaccuracy drives me nuts (daughter loves RIPPER STREET, and I find it nearly unwatchable, even with Matthew MacFadyen & Jerome Flynn). It's always something, as Rosanne Rosannadanna says :)

BTW, after your interesting info about BBC practices, I'm noticing all kinds of things I didn't notice before in the UK shows I like. I still like them quite a bit more than most US telly, but... wow. The more you know.