WHAT HAPPENED TO VAMPIRES?

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Neesy

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You're welcome. It didn't fall into the "that's two hours of my life I'll never get back" category, but it was damn close. Mostly because of the two actors mentioned above. But it is certainly not a movie I would recommend for anyone's viewing pleasure.
Okay - I like Craig in the Bond series and of course Harrison Ford is great, but I won't lose any sleep over missing "Cowboys and Aliens". Maybe it will pop up on TV so I can record it on my PVR.
 

AnnaMarie

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Okay - I like Craig in the Bond series and of course Harrison Ford is great, but I won't lose any sleep over missing "Cowboys and Aliens". Maybe it will pop up on TV so I can record it on my PVR.

Definitely worth watching for free...but I'd have been disappointed if I paid.

I did like the cast. I love Olivia Wilde, and Adam Beach is in it too.

It's just kind of a silly idea for a movie.
 

ghost19

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I watched a movie that I was very impressed with a few weeks ago, I guess I never caught it, "Priest". Had a cool plot, and Karl Urban who is one of my favorite actors. The lead guy, Paul Bettany, did a pretty good job. Was a good vampire flick.
 

skimom2

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I REMEMBER a time when VAMPIRES used to be SCARY, anymore VAMPIRES are a JOKE! Movies such as TWILIGHT make them out to be GLITTERY FAIRY LIKE creatures, and movies like BLADE make them out to be SUPER HUMAN CRIME LORDS, somewhere along the way we LOST the SCARE FACTOR that should still be there! I'm not saying that BLADE was a bad movie, I LIKED IT,but what happened? :)

The things that shock us have changed. Vampires were about repressed sexuality (Mr. King does an excellent job of illustrating this in DANSE MACABRE)--we don't repress much any more. Then they were about violence--well, hell, everyday violence has escalated to a point that we don't scare easily there. The 'sexual' engine of vampirism in literature is still there, but without the scare elements (TWILIGHT, all the other paranormal romances). Remember, they were played for laughs in the '50s (Abbott & Costello, etc), when our atomic fears were being reflected in giant bug movies.With THE STRAIN (amongst other books, and soon this will be a TV show), we're seeing vampirism from the perspective of infection, because that's what scares us now. Zombies fit here, too, but they're not as easy as vampires to both desire and fear (probably why they're going away).

Vampires will continue to evolve to reflect what scares us, but I can't see them ever disappearing.
 

skimom2

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I watched a movie that I was very impressed with a few weeks ago, I guess I never caught it, "Priest". Had a cool plot, and Karl Urban who is one of my favorite actors. The lead guy, Paul Bettany, did a pretty good job. Was a good vampire flick.

WHOA! I had no idea PRIEST had a vamp story! Paul Bettany isn't one of my faves, so I passed it over. Karl Urban, though... yeah, I want to see that now--thanks!
 

mustangclaire

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The things that shock us have changed. Vampires were about repressed sexuality (Mr. King does an excellent job of illustrating this in DANSE MACABRE)--we don't repress much any more. Then they were about violence--well, hell, everyday violence has escalated to a point that we don't scare easily there. The 'sexual' engine of vampirism in literature is still there, but without the scare elements (TWILIGHT, all the other paranormal romances). Remember, they were played for laughs in the '50s (Abbott & Costello, etc), when our atomic fears were being reflected in giant bug movies.With THE STRAIN (amongst other books, and soon this will be a TV show), we're seeing vampirism from the perspective of infection, because that's what scares us now. Zombies fit here, too, but they're not as easy as vampires to both desire and fear (probably why they're going away).

Vampires will continue to evolve to reflect what scares us, but I can't see them ever disappearing.
Reckon you've got that spot on there skimom2... I couldn't have put that into words if I'd tried.:smile:
 

skimom2

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What did you like about it if you don't mind me asking.?

I liked the way Favreau used classic Western tropes to carry a silly story. If you watch, most of the shots could have come from a John Ford western (aside from the lens flares--what the heck is it with those lately? They're annoying as hell). Classic characters (The Mysterious Gunslinger, The Preacher, The Hard ass Landowner, The Kid, The GreenHorn), classic set (the uber wide street was a sly nod to Sergio Leone's quirky towns in the Eastwood films). We have the Indian tropes (medicine man, tales around a fire, etc), too... but then he throws in this absurd twist with the aliens. It was clever to have the people react little differently to an alien invasion than classic westerns would to the Apaches raiding. Example: spaceships tear up the town, people are yanked right off the street and into the sky, and do the people collapse, fearful of the wrath of God, or Satan, or whoever? Are they fearful? Do they even really question what they saw? HECK NO! Ford empties his six shooter at them, then declares that they're gonna get their people back!

Westerns were a big part of my life, growing up, and this movie captured all the beauty of them, while tweaking the absurditites of the genre.

And I really, really liked giggling at the way Craig sat a horse :D Total Englishman (they ride very differently from Americans, for those who didn't know that).

Sorry for the long answer OoO--I think this is a WAY misunderstood movie :)
 

Neesy

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I liked the way Favreau used classic Western tropes to carry a silly story. If you watch, most of the shots could have come from a John Ford western (aside from the lens flares--what the heck is it with those lately? They're annoying as hell). Classic characters (The Mysterious Gunslinger, The Preacher, The Hard ass Landowner, The Kid, The GreenHorn), classic set (the uber wide street was a sly nod to Sergio Leone's quirky towns in the Eastwood films). We have the Indian tropes (medicine man, tales around a fire, etc), too... but then he throws in this absurd twist with the aliens. It was clever to have the people react little differently to an alien invasion than classic westerns would to the Apaches raiding. Example: spaceships tear up the town, people are yanked right off the street and into the sky, and do the people collapse, fearful of the wrath of God, or Satan, or whoever? Are they fearful? Do they even really question what they saw? HECK NO! Ford empties his six shooter at them, then declares that they're gonna get their people back!

Westerns were a big part of my life, growing up, and this movie captured all the beauty of them, while tweaking the absurditites of the genre.

And I really, really liked giggling at the way Craig sat a horse :D Total Englishman (they ride very differently from Americans, for those who didn't know that).

Sorry for the long answer OoO--I think this is a WAY misunderstood movie :)

Hey - I appreciate it, too! Thanks skimom2

When I found out it also has Olivia Wilde (13 from House) and Adam Beach (who is from Winnipeg) it made me want to see it more.
 

skimom2

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Thank you for the different perspective on it. Perhaps looking at from this point of view would help while viewing it instead of from a sci/fi, special effects angle. Which was what I did. Glad you enjoyed it!!
I'm sort of a 'director nerd'. The right or wrong one can make or break a movie, so I tend to look at movies from that perspective :)