Cursing and Swearing

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carrie's younger brother

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This is my last post on the subject.
Whether a reader likes/tolerates the cursing or not, the bottom line is it is language. They are words used to convey a meaning, feeling, situation, etc. Some words are beautiful in meaning and/or sound while others are ugly. Ugly words don't necessarily have to be curses. "Fat" & "stupid" when used to demean someone are far worse to me that f**ck. A talented author uses words to incite emotion in his reader, whether good or bad. Obviously SK has stirred some kind of passion in JoshF or he would not have come to this site and posted his feelings. Whether I agree with them or not, I do acknowledge that SK has used written language in a way that it is meant to be used: he caused someone to have an opinion about something, be passionate about it and to THINK.
 

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As an aside...of sorts...A different part of the brain is engaged when swearing, as opposed to other forms of speech. Language is used to convey information. Swearing is used to convey emotion. When swearing, you also engage the limbic system...you know...the "lizard brain", the seat of emotions. Frankly, I would rather someone uses a string of swear words when they need to vent. Better than hitting people.

A Special Place in the Brain for Swearing | Helix Magazine
 

César Hernández-Meraz

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I find myself cursing daily now, which I hardly used to ever do. And I find myself questioning my own morals and values. King's writing, as do a lot of popular authors, greatly influence the constant reader. They become huge fans of him, and want to be like him, and want to talk like him, and begin to think it is acceptable to speak those very profane words in every day conversation, because King's characters do, and some of those characters are really cool!

No offense, but people have different levels of impressionability.

I like SK's stories and I like SK's characters, but I do not get ideas to gun-rape people (even if one of my favorite evil characters did) or swear just because they do. If I swear, it will be because of me, not because of someone else (much less a fictional person).

In the other hand, my top one SK character is Nick Andros. Followed by Tommy Ross and Jack Cantori. All three of them are very great human beings (even if the first two have had sex in their respective books). However, I find it very hard to reach the level of perfectness they have.

I hope it were that easy. I read about them, I admire them, I am a good person.

But it does not work that way. My personality is formed and is quite strong. No amount of reading would change it unless I want to, and it would not be an easy change, but one brought by conscious effort.
 

César Hernández-Meraz

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My mom would look at us as kids what we were doing, shake her head.

Say, 'jesus mary and crakers' and would walk away

I always wondered why people in the USA freak out when God is mentioned.

Here in Mexico it is one of two options to say to someone who just sneezed: "Jesús te ayude" (which I know you use in English, too, as "God bless you").

This is similar, when in sudden danger, one thinks of a person who can take care of us and keep us safe. It can be our parents, it can be God, or His mother or some saint (who would then ask God in our stead).

So things like "Jesús", "Ave María Purísima" or similar phrases can be uttered when surprised, mostly to ask for help or commend yourself to God, in case anything happens.

But if I were in the USA, something scared me, and I said "Jesus", people would think it was something bad...

I know and understand (and even try to practice) the Jewish tradition of not saying the Lord's name out loud. But while not saying His name, I can say "God", and I actualy think that, for believers, it should be a good thing to keep God in our minds and hearts and even words.
 

carrie's younger brother

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...I'm still kinda interested in where I can find the "perverted sex"......
I was assuming he was referring to the various forced sex/rape-type scenes that have been portrayed in a few of the books. I can't remember which book, but...

I seem to remember a distasteful male on male prison sex scene with scatalogical references in a recent read (or maybe it was a re-read). Am I wrong?

Edit: guess I was wrong about my last post being my "last post." :a24:
 

Out of Order

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I was assuming he was referring to the various forced sex/rape-type scenes that have been portrayed in a few of the books. I can't remember which book, but...

I seem to remember a distasteful male on male prison sex scene with scatalogical references in a recent read (or maybe it was a re-read). Am I wrong?

Edit: guess I was wrong about my last post being my "last post." :a24:

You sir, are Out of Order!!!!!

Oh wait.................:biggrin-new:
 

niro

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Question does the english language have some "cute" swear words/ phrases. We have some in German I am just wondering about it now?

We mostly use them when we are around kids or in public. Since I think that SK novels are for adults I do not mind the swearing.
 

carrie's younger brother

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Question does the english language have some "cute" swear words/ phrases. We have some in German I am just wondering about it now?

We mostly use them when we are around kids or in public. Since I think that SK novels are for adults I do not mind the swearing.
We have variations on swear words that people use when they don't want to actually swear. These words are used around children. I guess they are "cute." Examples:
"Oh fudge" for "Oh fu*k"
"Sugar" for "Sh*t"
"Gosh darnit" for "g*d damn it"
 

GNTLGNT

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I was assuming he was referring to the various forced sex/rape-type scenes that have been portrayed in a few of the books. I can't remember which book, but...

I seem to remember a distasteful male on male prison sex scene with scatalogical references in a recent read (or maybe it was a re-read). Am I wrong?

Edit: guess I was wrong about my last post being my "last post." :a24:
...I know what he was referencing....I was just being a passive/aggressive smartazz.....:barbershop_quartet_member:
 

Neesy

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I always wondered why people in the USA freak out when God is mentioned.

Here in Mexico it is one of two options to say to someone who just sneezed: "Jesús te ayude" (which I know you use in English, too, as "God bless you").

This is similar, when in sudden danger, one thinks of a person who can take care of us and keep us safe. It can be our parents, it can be God, or His mother or some saint (who would then ask God in our stead).

So things like "Jesús", "Ave María Purísima" or similar phrases can be uttered when surprised, mostly to ask for help or commend yourself to God, in case anything happens.

But if I were in the USA, something scared me, and I said "Jesus", people would think it was something bad...

I know and understand (and even try to practice) the Jewish tradition of not saying the Lord's name out loud. But while not saying His name, I can say "God", and I actualy think that, for believers, it should be a good thing to keep God in our minds and hearts and even words.
I say "Jesus!" quite a lot - not sure if it offends others. I was raised Catholic but have not been to church in years. I guess it is just a bad habit I picked up somewhere.