Cursing and Swearing

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carrie's younger brother

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JoshF said:
To the one who asked if I actually wanted people to start saying 'Prophet F..... Mohammad'. No. It's just that we are so inconsiderate to those who have faith by slamming their savior's name in the mud. *That* swearing I *do* hear every day outside of King's novels, so I'm not attacking him (although obviously I don't enjoy reading it in his books). We're so cocky and irreverent with our use of OMG, JC, etc. so I'm only suggesting that if we're going to be blasphemous, let's bring the Muslims in, too. Why discriminate?

To the one who told me to quit reading King and pick up children's books, please don't patronize. You know as well as I do what Stephen King's appeal is and why I'll keep returning to him. It doesn't mean I have to like everything that goes with it.

To the one who asked me to keep posting (wait, that might have been the one I first addressed), thank you for your kind welcome.

To the one who took the familiar route and asked why I'm okay with gore but tsk tsk to the bad words... Words are real to me, King's fantasies are not. I don't even enjoy gore. I like the way he writes and I like the creepiness setting in. In Misery, when she brutalizes Paul, those are actually my least favorite parts.

To whoever else, sorry for not replying, but I'm half asleep and drifting...
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You may not have gotten all the types of responses you did if you had come on here with a better tone to start with. In life, you get what you give. Your initial post was a bit offensive in its tone, so naturally you got peoples' dander up. And by the way, I welcomed you with a watermelon smiley face. No love back???
 
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champ1966 said:
You'd have learnt some new swear words if the site wasn't moderated.
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Might as well post this one, too: In the same way, Josh, the lack of cursing, swearing, taking the Lord's name in vain, so forth so on, says something. I've read a pile of John D MacDonald stories and in one of those "reviews" (notes to myself) I remarked on the lack of cursing, the bad words, whatever...in his early stories. He began publishing in the early 50s but then the lack of "swear words" in his stories might have had as much to do with the times, the publishing world...I think people (men) put on a coat and tie to go to the ball game but we're so much more progressive today where anything goes...and anyone goes...wherever and whenever they want, signs saying sailors stay off the grass be damned. I looked through some of my notes (reviews) of those stories, see if I could find what story it was where I noted that when John D did begin to use vulgar language, it wasn't so much f-bombs and kaka-poopie...it was variations on your complaint, taking the Lord's name etc. I don't believe a "bad guy" needs to curse...don't believe I heard Pennywise, once, drop the f-bomb or even go so far as say kaka-poopie.
 
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Hi Josh, and welcome! I understand that some of the swear words are not your cup of tea...... I will tell you, however, that several of the ladies I work with drop the f-bomb on a fairly regular basis. For them, it's a way to release steam and vent frustrations. While I don't use some of the more vulgar words very often, there are times when no other word will do. I really don't pay much attention to it any more.
You'll find most folks here to be a fairly open minded bunch (except for politics ;;D), and we're pretty friendly and like to have fun.
We're also very defensive when it comes to our love and respect of Mr. King, who made this playground for us, and allows us to hang out here free of charge. Please don't judge him or us based upon the language of fictional characters.
Hope you enjoy your stay :cheerful:
 
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I think it's about authenticity. When my mother complained about the movie Gone With The Wind having Rhett Butler say, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn", I said that Rhett would have never used the word "darn" in this situation. To change that word would have altered that scene for the worse. Instead of dramatic impact, people who had read the book would be snickering.
 
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I've worked for Stephen for over 27 years and in all that time I have never once heard him use that word. His use of it in his writing says absolutely nothing about his personal character IMO and as someone who does actually know him, I think I have a better idea of what that would be than someone who judges him based simply on his fictional characters.
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carrie's younger brother said:
They are just words. Most of them were introduced to the English language via the Germanic languages (German, Dutch, Frisian, the Scandinavian languages, and Gothic). "F**k" is just a cruder way of saying "fornicate" and so on. And the only reason they are considered cruder, is because the words are based in a "foreign" language (which is an elitist way of thinking).

And in the case of "oh my G/god" who says what G/god it is referring to? The G/god of Abraham? One of many Hindu G/gods? Roman G/gods? Greek G/gods?

Lastly, if this bothers you so much, why do you keep reading SK?


btw... Welcome! :watermelon:
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I just finished Doctor Sleep. To say the book's profanity was overused would be an understatement. Even the child protagonist curses as if she was raised by sailors. The characters did not seem real. I too have read King's ON WRITING, and it is a tremendous source of advice and instruction. King does place emphasis on being real and not constantly repeating the same word (as stated earlier in this thread). In my "bottom of the totem pole" opinion, he violates both rules on a gargantuan scale. It was almost as if he just wanted to force the profanity upon all his readers, necessary or not. There were pages I needed to remove all f-bombs to figure out what the characters were actually trying to say. I stopped reading it twice, but like someone who struggles to overcome any type of addiction, I had to pick it up again and get my SK fix.
I like the question from"carries younger brother", in that if it bothers someone so much, then why read SK? I know my answer....and that is, through all of the profanity and unnecessary graphic sex, King's storytelling is still second to none. This may be why most reader's have a difficult time pulling away. Like me, they compromise their level of tolerance, and they continue to read. I did, however, make a hard decision after reading Doctor Sleep. And that is, I am taking a break from the King. I find myself cursing daily now, which I hardly used to ever do. And I find myself questioning my own morals and values. King's writing, as do a lot of popular authors, greatly influence the constant reader. They become huge fans of him, and want to be like him, and want to talk like him, and begin to think it is acceptable to speak those very profane words in every day conversation, because King's characters do, and some of those characters are really cool!
I am a fan of SK...a huge fan. He has such an amazing talent to create a story. But I just cannot deal with the overuse of language and sex any longer. Yes .....like JoshF....I am tired of the trash...and can only hope that one day King will decide to tone things down and write a story with little to no profanity. But then....why would he......he is one of greatest authors of all time. So why would he change just because a fraction of his readers are offended. It is our fault for continuing to buy his books when we know it is going to be dirty.
On the other hand.....would the constant readers who love a good page of f-bombs and perverted sex....still buy a profane free King novel? My money is on "yes".
 
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