A potential Error With Randall Flagg

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Lee9900

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Early on we see a guy (Played by Shaquil O'neil (sp?)) going on RING OUT YOUR DEAD!

then, from who knows how many miles away, Flagg snaps his fingers and just kills him.

however, we never see him use this ability again.

i think this has potential to be a plot hole.

Because if he had this ability before, why couldn't he use it on anyone over in Boulder?

It seems to me if he wanted to stop them so badly, he could have done just that.

And if he did just that, then there would have been no one to take a Stand, and no one for god to work through.

what do you think?
 

skimom2

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TV movie malarky. The Monster Shouter (closest analogy to the character in the TV show) did die in the book, but Larry didn't know how. There was no evidence in the story as written that Flagg had anything to do with it. It is definitely a plot hole for the show :)
 

GNTLGNT

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...plus there is a reference made in the novel, somewhere, that all Flagg need do is to give one the evil eye and they would fall dead-or something to that effect, it seemed an all encompassing tool to cover numerous "acts" by the "Dude" with no further explanation of powers needed.....
 

Blake

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In the series, Flagg snaps his fingers and kills a deer on the road at night. 'Rubba, dub, dub, thanks for the grub.' So Flagg does use it twice in the TV movie.
 

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Ebdim9th

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Flagg's sight and powers get blocked in several places, I think it's the idea that God or the Power only allows him to get away with so much, and then even Flagg has to play by certain rules. Things he can't just do or see anytime he wants because there are cosmic laws and forces out there behind the scenes that prevent him from doing so.
 

mymaria

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I never really understood the Randall Flagg character. Didn't seem convincing as Satan himself. Not as powerful as I would expect, had too many human characteristics like letting Glenn? get under his skin. Seems a bit strange that a mere mortal could affect him that much.

Maybe he was meant to be a human embodiment of one of Satan's minions?

Early on we see a guy (Played by Shaquil O'neil (sp?)) going on RING OUT YOUR DEAD!

then, from who knows how many miles away, Flagg snaps his fingers and just kills him.

however, we never see him use this ability again.

i think this has potential to be a plot hole.

Because if he had this ability before, why couldn't he use it on anyone over in Boulder?

It seems to me if he wanted to stop them so badly, he could have done just that.

And if he did just that, then there would have been no one to take a Stand, and no one for god to work through.

what do you think?
Well I would think that the people of Boulder might have some divine protection, and Flagg might not be able to just drop them dead.
 

skimom2

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I never really understood the Randall Flagg character. Didn't seem convincing as Satan himself. Not as powerful as I would expect, had too many human characteristics like letting Glenn? get under his skin. Seems a bit strange that a mere mortal could affect him that much.

Maybe he was meant to be a human embodiment of one of Satan's minions?



Well I would think that the people of Boulder might have some divine protection, and Flagg might not be able to just drop them dead.
In The Stand, he's a demon, not Satan himself (at least as proposed in this book and movie. In the context of the DT series...who the heck knows. He's just evil).

As far as Flagg being susceptible to being taunted, it seems to me that Mr. King hangs on to the idea that evil is small minded and arrogant, and massively prideful. He says as much in 'Salem's Lot, when Ben, Jimmy, and Callahan (I'm pretty sure those are the three involved, though it might have included Matt, as well) are talking about Barlow. That characteristic shows up in other books as well. Truly good people do what they do and get along in life, while bad people are much more likely to hang on and react to what others think of them. It's kind of interesting, and raises some questions about Mr. King's thought process and where it comes from that are really outside the scope of this topic. :)
 

mymaria

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In The Stand, he's a demon, not Satan himself (at least as proposed in this book and movie. In the context of the DT series...who the heck knows. He's just evil).

As far as Flagg being susceptible to being taunted, it seems to me that Mr. King hangs on to the idea that evil is small minded and arrogant, and massively prideful. He says as much in 'Salem's Lot, when Ben, Jimmy, and Callahan (I'm pretty sure those are the three involved, though it might have included Matt, as well) are talking about Barlow. That characteristic shows up in other books as well. Truly good people do what they do and get along in life, while bad people are much more likely to hang on and react to what others think of them. It's kind of interesting, and raises some questions about Mr. King's thought process and where it comes from that are really outside the scope of this topic. :)
Makes sense.
 

GNTLGNT

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In The Stand, he's a demon, not Satan himself (at least as proposed in this book and movie. In the context of the DT series...who the heck knows. He's just evil).

As far as Flagg being susceptible to being taunted, it seems to me that Mr. King hangs on to the idea that evil is small minded and arrogant, and massively prideful. He says as much in 'Salem's Lot, when Ben, Jimmy, and Callahan (I'm pretty sure those are the three involved, though it might have included Matt, as well) are talking about Barlow. That characteristic shows up in other books as well. Truly good people do what they do and get along in life, while bad people are much more likely to hang on and react to what others think of them. It's kind of interesting, and raises some questions about Mr. King's thought process and where it comes from that are really outside the scope of this topic. :)
 
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