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Automatic weapons

Discussion in 'Newbies Start Here' started by Dima, Mar 22, 2014.

  1. ghost19

    ghost19 "Have I run too far to get home?"

    Great pic. The later versions that were chambered for 5.56 were rolled out with better control of recoil in mind. I've never been in the Russian military but the AK in the video sure looks like some variant. I've shot a basic model AK47 many times and on full auto it definitely jumps on you. Even leaning into it it's tough to keep the barrel from jumping due to just the sheer recoil of thirty 7.62 rounds going down range that fast, going to produce some recoil. On the same note, the M-16 on full auto spits the rounds out at such a high rate of speed, the cyclic rate of the M-16 is quite a bit higher than the AK, but a smaller round coming out faster has the dame effect. You end up shooting at birds in the sky..lol. Whoever the operator in the video is, he definitely knows his business, but that ain't no standard issue AK, I'd bet a fifth of Glenlivet on it.

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...yeah, the OP is barking up the wrong tactical tree...
  3. Dima

    Dima Member

    Yet there's a video of a person doing just that.
    What a dilemma...
    Is it computer graphics?
    Maybe Cameron had something to do with this?
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  4. Dima

    Dima Member

    It is an automatic weapon or it is not.
    What is your pick?
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  5. Dima

    Dima Member

    AK doesn't equal AK-47. Just a friendly hint.
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  6. Dima

    Dima Member

    This is a forum on DT series, yes? In which there was a sentiment about how it is impossible to shoot an automatic weapon accurately, yes? So the thread is relevant, kinda?
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  7. Dima

    Dima Member

    All I'm asking you to do is to open your eyes.
    Is it really that difficult?
    Is it the Russian prejudice thing?
    I just don't get why you wouldn't believe what you see.
    Do you think it's a staged shooting or what, please explain.
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  8. Dima

    Dima Member

    The guy was test firing a 75 bullet "snail" magazine to see if it jams. Accuracy was just a side bonus. We like to do things thoroughly here.
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  9. Dima

    Dima Member

    You do realize we like our guns almost as much as you guys do?
    It is not AK-47 in the video, nor AK-74, nor AK-12.
    AK-104 ftw.
    It's not the last one too, we have more for any friends that might decide to drop by.
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...these are MY automatic weapons...

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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...also a friendly hint...to 99% of the average reader or listener, if someone mentions "AK", the number 47 follows in their mind-or that's what they think of, the weapon has become so iconic...

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...I don't think the Ukraine would argue...
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    [​IMG] ...all just variations on a theme...much like many of our weapons...
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  14. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    Maybe the shooter was aiming for the nose? Who's to know? Who's to nose? I thought I detected a trace of a frown forming in the fabric of his back when he walked up to the target, was it 21-steps? The distance an enraged person can cover in the time it takes to draw, aim (somewhat), and fire? Hey, Dima...are your aware of any Russian stories to-do with the modern army...modern as in the last 50 years? Dostoyevsky is a favorite of mine...read some Boris Akunin, The Winter Queen...that reads almost like a satire on some of Dosty's stuff. Is there anyone writing comic military stories? Say like Heller's Catch-22 if you're familiar with that...or maybe that Good Soldier Svek...I've misspelled the last name there sorry.

    *edit...I meant 21-feet, not steps. :(
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2014
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  15. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Not to take sides here, but that is one funny comment! :hammer: :rofl:

    Um - okay - say sorry - I read the rest of the comments and this was disrespectful - I guess my adolescent funny bone just kicked in temporarily :down:
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2014
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  16. Grandpa

    Grandpa Well-Known Member

    Geez. I was making a general comment that I think it would be hard to keep sights steady on a target while firing at full auto, and I thought you agreed, and I further thought the exchange had come to a successful conclusion.

    I don't have prejudice against anyone. The best way I've found to discard prejudice is to evaluate people on their individual merits, and that's what I do.
  17. Riot87

    Riot87 Love him forever

    You were in Green Beret? much respect to you man!
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...Oh heavens no!...I just respect all Special Forces-but since my son is in the Army-I featured the Green Beanies....
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  19. Riot87

    Riot87 Love him forever

    Thats cool that your son is I respect the soldiers alot. I would have been a marine though it didnt work out that way but i got friends who are in it.
  20. 50's Kid

    50's Kid Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I think a clip of full load rounds would be hard to keep on target in a sustained burst. Those might have been practice rounds. Just simple physics; for every action, etc. As one experienced veteran said, that was why they went to the 3 round bursts with the M16. I have an old VHS tape that dispels a lot of Hollywood weapon myths. Great for research purposes, especially with the cost of ammo going up and the availability going down. If I was going into combat, I would be a sniper, choosing a surgical strike over a Rambo suicide charge. Less possible collateral damage that way, too.
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