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Before and after drinking.....

Discussion in 'General Discussion & Questions' started by BleakMid, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. BleakMid

    BleakMid Well-Known Member

    I am 100 pages into Salem's Lot (and loving every page of it), and was struck by the quite prominent references to drinking, bars, beer, hangovers, etc.

    It got me wondering which novel was King's last as a drinker, and which was his first as a sober writer.

    Was there a noticeable shift in his writing once he quit the booze?

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  2. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    My recollection is that The Tommyknockers was the last book he wrote while he was on drugs and alcohol. He was sober by 1987.
  3. DiO'Bolic

    DiO'Bolic Not completely obtuse

    Thirty years, now. Quite an achievement. Kudos to King. :thumbs_up:
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  4. BleakMid

    BleakMid Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Ms. Mod
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  5. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    You also asked about the changes in his writing. He'll be one of the first to admit that he thinks the drinking/drugs had a negative effect on his writing but that IMO isn't the only reason it has changed over the years. It has also changed to reflect his own outlook as he has aged and dealt with personal events in his life, as it probably would with most writers.
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  6. BleakMid

    BleakMid Well-Known Member

    Yes, I remember reading a quote from Dylan Thomas's wife. The interviewer asked her if she thought her husband would have produced such amazing poetry if he hadn't been an alcoholic, suggesting it was somehow a necessary part of his talent. She said that if he hadn't drank he would have produced even more and it would have been even better. There's a lot of romancing of the 'alcoholic writer'.

    That said, SK produced excellent work both on and off the sauce!

    I, personally, have found King a big inspiration in addressing my own relationship to the drink.
  7. AchtungBaby

    AchtungBaby Well-Known Member

    I feel like King maybe became more daring after he sobered up. I wonder if books like Gerald’s Game and Dolores Claiborne would have been as they are had he still been an alcoholic during their creation.
  8. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member

    Agree--As one travels down the path of aging, maturing, perception of life changes. This can be true for the reader as well as the author. SK books I've read in youth, have taken on new meaning in maturity. His recent books have a greater "depth" to them.
  9. Tilly

    Tilly Well-Known Member

    I think you could be right. Another writer, who was much older than King, wrote a prologue to something King wrote a long time ago and he said basically. ...King is the real deal. Right now he's writing about scary stuff, but he will write about all sorts of things before he's done. I can see being sober could have helped him explore new stories like the ones you mentioned. They are in my favs.
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  10. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Wow - 30 years - that's great - glad he quit and continued to write such great wonderful, fantastic books - good for him!
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ....given his "pickling period", it's a testimony to the depth of his talent that even mind altering substances couldn't stifle his creativity....
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  12. BleakMid

    BleakMid Well-Known Member

    True, pretty amazing
  13. mal

    mal Well-Known Member

    I'm on the fence as to whether creating art can be better or worse while under the influence. I think both have their merits. Health is important though, so always hydrate!
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