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Can You Guys Please Help Me Clear A Couple Things Up? *spoilers*

Discussion in 'The Shining (1980)' started by ZombieDrama, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. ZombieDrama

    ZombieDrama Well-Known Member

    I have seen this movie so many times but there are a couple things I am not getting.

    Is the ghost lady in the hotel room that Jack sees, supposed to be the wife of the Grady/twin girls mom, or just a random ghost? o_O

    The other thing I was wonderin' was how the heck was he in the photo from 1921 July 4th ball? I mean he was alive had a wife and kid in the present (1975-ish). So was he reincarnated, possessed or something?
    Would love to hear your thoughts.
    I have read the book, but I was a kid, so long time ago and don't recall if it elaborated.
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 21, 2013
  2. mstay

    mstay Older than most, not as old as some.

    The book does tell a lot more of the story than the Kubrick movie. You should read it again if you get a chance.

    If I remember correctly the lady in the room was a lady that was there at the hotel cheating on her mobster husband. He had her killed or killed her himself.

    I think that the picture was meant to show that Jack had always been a part of the hotel even before he came there with his family. But I don't think that was part of the book, just the movie.
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  3. ZombieDrama

    ZombieDrama Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I appreciate it. =)
  4. ZombieDrama

    ZombieDrama Well-Known Member

    P.S. I just wanna say I'm sorry for not making this a spoiler I had a brain-fart and wasn't thinking. :blush: I saw on here somewhere how to do it. The HTML code I mean. I wish I could fix it but I can't. <=)
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  5. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Beta Tester Moderator

    Fixed. :)

    [spoil3r]write hidden message here[/spoil3r]

    Replace the '3' with an 'e'.

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...wish there was a button thingy like on the old Board....
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  7. AnnaMarie

    AnnaMarie Well-Known Member

    This was not in the book.
    I thought it showed he had become a part of the hotel. But who can read Kubrick's mind? Not me, lol.

    In the book, the woman in the tub is Mrs. Massey. The day after she dies a maid sees her in the tub, then Dick Hollaran sees her. I don't think she's associated with the gangsters, that was prior to Dick working there.
  8. AnnaMarie

    AnnaMarie Well-Known Member

    Did a bit more searching. The gangsters were in the Presidential suite! which is room 300. I think Mrs. Massey committed suicide in the bathtub, but I can't find it in the book.
  9. ZombieDrama

    ZombieDrama Well-Known Member

    Thank you everyone! =D FlakeNoir thanks for fixin' <3
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  10. prufrock21

    prufrock21 Well-Known Member

    When I first saw the movie, people in the audience actually giggled during the scene
    in the bathroom. I thought it was creepy, but others--to my surprise--
    thought it was funny. Perhaps the scene was so creepy they weren't sure how to react.
  11. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    They were reacting to seeing a fully nude woman in an R-rated film, which, back when the Shining was made, was a big deal. Most normal film-going folks weren't used to that back then. Nudity makes people nervous-laughter is a natural response to nervousness.
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  12. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Wasn't Mrs. Massey the one that wanted to 'get in the pants' of one of the bellhops?
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  13. AnnaMarie

    AnnaMarie Well-Known Member

    No. That woman was leaving the hotel the day Danny arrived.
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  14. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    Yes, you're correct! Been awhile since I read it.
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  15. prufrock21

    prufrock21 Well-Known Member

    Very astute. It never occurred to me. :)
  16. ancient sleeper

    ancient sleeper Active Member

    I'm pretty sure that the picture shows persons the Hotel "claimed".

    It certainly is a case for Sapphire and Steel!
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