Changes to IT movie

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OldDarth

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Based on the approach being taken as treating these two separate movies have to speculate the kids will anchor their movie and the adults the other. If there are any flashbacks they could be in the second one to refresh audiences mind as to which adult is which kid from the first movie.
 
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Pennywise from It: See the clown’s full costume from new Stephen King film | EW.com
 

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The costume is good but I was never against the idea of the original film clown suit as oposed to the novel's silver one. I personally don't believe the suit makes the character, Tim Curry proved that.

I'm still not sold on it being modernised. Don't get me wrong, I love the 80s, was an 80s child and love the nostalgia that films and shows set in the 80s bring, but king grew up in the 50s, and his descriptions of that decade are so heartfelt you can almost see him fondly remembering his youth. For me, it's Stephen's vision of the 50s that is special, almost romantic. It's partly why 11/22/63 is my 2nd favourite, behind IT.

I read that Patrick Hockstetter has his fridge of animals and that he "shares some uncomfortable scenes with Bowers" so it's good that some of it will be closer to the film. One thing that really does concern me though is this:
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This is from the director's instagram along with some others of Pennywise's victims like Betty Ripsom. I hope this is just promotional stuff or even fake. If Richie is not a full blown part of it then that is just too big a change.
 

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The accompanying article is a good read and worth the time as it explains each part of the costume and the reasoning behind the choices.
Thanks - it is too early in the morning to read about clown suits

I guess it would not be the first time I have seen a guy in a skirt (Andy wore one [a kilt] on our wedding day), plus here is a traditional Albanian costume:
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I suppose my concern is the emphasis on the clown in all the leaks. There is all this focus on who is going to play the clown, but the book isn't about the clown. The story is about the Losers. The clown is the trouble they face. So far, the build up the film is making it sound like a flashback to 80s style monster movies which were a cross between a psycho and a monster. That would be very unfortunate. I already am not happy with their need to change the time period of the film. This is one of King's most beloved books. It would seem to me that they would do better actually translating the book to the screen rather than feeling they should adapt it. I have the same problem with The Gunslinger film. It isn't clear to me yet how far they mean to go from the book, so I've not written it off yet. I just not comfortable with the portents.

I don't really care who plays the clown. I don't care about how/why they created this new costume. I care about the story. I care about who is going to play the Losers. When I hear nothing but talk about the bad guys... the clown... Bowers... even Patrick and his refrigerator.... well it gives me pause because it sounds to me like that is all they care about. Those guys aren't the story.
 

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I suppose my concern is the emphasis on the clown in all the leaks. There is all this focus on who is going to play the clown, but the book isn't about the clown. The story is about the Losers. The clown is the trouble they face. So far, the build up the film is making it sound like a flashback to 80s style monster movies which were a cross between a psycho and a monster. That would be very unfortunate. I already am not happy with their need to change the time period of the film. This is one of King's most beloved books. It would seem to me that they would do better actually translating the book to the screen rather than feeling they should adapt it. I have the same problem with The Gunslinger film. It isn't clear to me yet how far they mean to go from the book, so I've not written it off yet. I just not comfortable with the portents.

I don't really care who plays the clown. I don't care about how/why they created this new costume. I care about the story. I care about who is going to play the Losers. When I hear nothing but talk about the bad guys... the clown... Bowers... even Patrick and his refrigerator.... well it gives me pause because it sounds to me like that is all they care about. Those guys aren't the story.
Just a total guess on my part, but perhaps the producers were tuned into all the fans who thought that no one could replace Tim Curry as Pennywise and are directing this toward them as well as trying to hook new viewers.
 

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I agree with Robert,there does seem to be a lot of emphasis on the clown,and while I thought Curry was very good,he doesn't have to be the end all be all for the film..it does seem many fans are fixed on that performance,and ignore or rather don't seem to care too much about other iterations of the monster.I just hope the story includes as many details about the relationships of the Losers as they can,maybe some flashbacks to old derry interludes(I especially liked the one about the French Canadian logger that went to work in the bar)and some good creature effects..hate a lot of the cgi stuff that looks cheap,I hope they can do better..fingers crossed!
 

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Robert Gray

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Just a total guess on my part, but perhaps the producers were tuned into all the fans who thought that no one could replace Tim Curry as Pennywise and are directing this toward them as well as trying to hook new viewers.

I'm sure you are right (and I am hoping you are right too). I just don't like the portents. My view is Hollywood turns the best cuts of meat into hot dogs which taste just like the hot dogs made out of byproduct. It is their nature. Whenever I see this much effort being putting how something "looks" rather than hear a whisper about the story, I worry. Still, I haven't written this film off yet. While I do NOT approve of changing the time periods at all, it is still possible to do the characters and the story, and that is what I care about.
 

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Whenever I see this much effort being putting how something "looks" rather than hear a whisper about the story, I worry.

Here are a few whispers from the director on characters & story:
I empathize with your concerns and in fact I feel the same way. Rest assured our film will be very focused on the human drama. For me it would be unconceivable to tell a horror story that lacks a powerful emotional core. Every single one of the losers has a special place in my heart and I want to honor this by exploring their minds and hearts in depth, further than anyone ever did before. I think you won't be dissapointed.
The movie I pitched the studio is an elevated horror film that stays true to the essence of Stephen King's book, yet bringing a few new elements to the story. I will direct a movie that is based on the Palmer-Fukunaga script with the addition of some ideas that reflect my vision of the movie. I cannot talk about the reasons why the studio and Cary parted ways but I can tell you, the depth and quality remains uncompromised. Trust me when I tell you, I wouldnt have stayed 10 minutes in this project if I thought that i would be held back from doing an elevated, original and truly horrifying movie. I'm a huge fan of Stephen King and this book and if I sensed that they wanted to mess with IT to favor a conventional horror spectacle I would have walked away.
I can say my version of IT highly emphasizes Pennywise's most terrifying virtue which is it's ability to materialize into your worst fear; I want to take people in a journey into Pennywise's world through a disturbing, surrealistic and intoxicating experience that will leave nobody at ease.

The first 34 of the 52 shooting days they filmed scenes involving the kids and no monsters, which should give an idea of how much at the least they will be the focus.
 

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Will be fine as long as it sticks to the most critical moment in the story. IT was never about the kids or the clown or the coming of age story. The entire was cleverly building to what is possibly the greatest moment in all of fiction.


Just beautiful
 
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