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I meant to come back and post! I watched This Is It and I was fascinated. Even with not ever being much of a fan. I was impressed with how he treated his people. Even when he didn't like something and wanted it changed, he always said "With love." Like he didn't want to criticize or come off as a harsh boss. I very much liked that. I did not realize this was all footage including up to just days before his death. Talked it over and we decided to let Ty watch it at school. He watched it at school and did not have much to say about it, really. He liked it ok but it did not make much of an impression. It was just a way to pass the class time, as far as Ty was concerned.
I have also watched pt 1 of Leaving Neverland and most of part 2. (Just me, not the kids.) I do not have much left, maybe 30 minutes. But I am reluctant to go back to it. I really do not know what to think. The stories are so similar, the grooming of the boys. Even the boys who came after the two in the documentary, even though they were not in it, just what these two observed, Michael definitely had a pattern. It breaks my heart for them. They are definitely credible. They did love him. They thought they were special. It really is something how the parents were caught up in the spell too, yet never suspected. The families thought they were special as well. Very sad and disturbing documentary and it is hard to reconcile the person I saw in This Is It with the person in Leaving Neverland. Except for maybe the guilt and shame played a big part in his insomnia and need for stronger and stronger drugs to help him sleep. That is conjecture on my part. But I just can't see how anyone committing these kinds of acts possibly could ever sleep soundly. Or live peacefully.
Nicely worded. And yes, just a sad bit of business all around. His talent can't be denied for sure.
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The documentary that never ceases to fascinate me is Grizzly Man, I'm sure many of you have seen it, to those who haven't it's well worth a look,
That was a great doc. Didn't he end up getting killed by a bear?
Yes he did, and the bigger tragedy was his girlfriend was there with him and she was killed as well, she had wanted to leave and he persuaded her to stay a little longer....with tragic results.
Oh wow. I didn't know the girlfriend got killed too. That is tragic.
Grey Gardens. This is like my third viewing of this. It fascinates me.
Yes. Super interesting. Sad.
I'll check it out, my first impression watching the trailer is that it's going to be a tad depressing to watch?
Little Edie: Yeah, but I like freedom.
Big Edie: Well, darling, you can't have freedom when you're being supported.
Little Edie: You can't?
Big Edie: Nawp.
Little Edie: I think you're not free when you're not being supported. (sighs) It's awful both ways.
LOL
Oh it's depressing for sure. There's neglect and mental illness and filth. But it really is so fascinating to watch their relationship.
What is also upsetting to me is that these are relations to Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. And she wasn't helping them! She had all the damn money in the world and she wasn't helping them UNTIL I think this documentary came out and then she stepped in with some help.
I think we've talked about this before Doc, haven't we? There is a spoof show called Documentary Now! and they did an homage to Grey Gardens called Shady Passages which is so hilarious. And they were so good.
Yeah, we have. This is one of those movies I quote all the time. Brilliant, funny, tragic. I did see the spoof...it was a riot.
Little Edie's outfits always made me smile. This fashionable woman now takes towels and wraps her head and pins them with a broach, wraps fabric around her waist and pins them with safety pins, nylons over her shorts under a "skirt" and she's ready to entertain.
And their mattresses!!! Oh my lord in the heavens. I hope both of them got new mattresses before they died. Filthy, disgusting, horrifying.
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