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Favorite character

Discussion in ''Salem's Lot' started by César Hernández-Meraz, May 19, 2015.

  1. Pucker

    Pucker We all have it coming, kid

    Yeah . . . all those cute little kids.

    You ever have one of those guys for a bus driver? A guy who you could tell didn't really like kids?

    I did.

    Does anyone know why people work in jobs they hate?

    Or is it something that evolves?
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  2. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    oh yeah...brings me back. Get up in the morning get on the bus. Bus rider. I don't recall his name though I could put a name on him. I never understood this one and that's the one the story brings to mind. When the driver looked up at the mirror and held his gaze there...it was like the painting that follows you, and you alone through the room. But there was other...stuff...too. And there's no telling why but the vibe was there and the reality expressed itself on more than one occasion. So yeah...keep on rockin in the free world. All it takes is one. There were some good ones, some great ones, but you never forget the ones who seem to mark you and take your measure with their eye.
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  3. Aericanwizard

    Aericanwizard Well-Known Member

    I recently saw the film "Trick 'r' treat", an anthology horror film that includes a segment involving an incident involving a bus-full of kids "coming back" to visit the driver. I couldn't help but grin, remembering the scene from "'Salem's Lot".

    I agree; that book has some terrifying scenes.
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  4. Sunlight Gardener

    Sunlight Gardener Well-Known Member

    Oh man , I had a couple teachers growing up that DESPISED kids. I have worked around a few teachers as an adult who feel the same way. Could never figure out why you would waste 30 years giving all your time to a population of people you hate. Unless you want to make them miserable? Who knows, but I never understood it.
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  5. The Nameless

    The Nameless M-O-O-N - That spells Nameless

    I just finished this a few minutes ago - my first read. I was surprised at how little father callahan's role was. I read the dark towers first and now I understand why people recommend reading salems lot first,
    it would have been better if my experience was "so this is what happened after callahan went to new York" rather than "ah, here's the priest from the calla"

    I liked father callahan, he was a very interesting character, and Mark was yet another shining example of how good king is at writing child characters. My overall favourite was probably Ben. It's funny how not many people ever seem to choose the main protagonist as their favourite.

    There were many people I was happy to see get their come upance - the bus driver and sandy mcdougle in particular.
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  6. Pucker

    Pucker We all have it coming, kid

    I think maybe this is because readers tend to get "beat over the head" with protagonists.

    Yeah . . . we get it . . . you're the hero.

    But beyond that I would make the case that King draws broader ancillary characters than many writers of popular fiction. I think this is why so many of us like to go back and read these things over and over. It's the little stylistic touches around the edges that make all the gut-wrenching stuff at the heart more compelling.

    Like gravy on mashed potatoes.

    Well . . . no . . . not like that.

    But you know what I mean.
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  7. Aericanwizard

    Aericanwizard Well-Known Member

    I think one thing that distinguishes great fiction from good fiction is the quality of these tertiary characters. There are a lot of good writers out there that can write fully believable protagonists, but it's much harder for them to fully imagine characters that get killed off in the second act.

    Sure, I like the protagonist, but that's not a great feat: by their very nature, they are likeable, or at least intriguing (why else would the author write an entire novel about them?).
    To me, the non-protagonists are often just as intriguing, because a lot is left to the imagination. This feeds into my hatred of unnecessary sequels that focus on a minor character, but that's another story.
  8. Pucker

    Pucker We all have it coming, kid


    Fleshing out the parts you are not shown in the prose with your imagination is how you -- yourself -- get to be in the story, too.

    And what's better than that?
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  9. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    I just wanna read Air Dance someday
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  10. César Hernández-Meraz

    César Hernández-Meraz Wants to be Nick, ends up as Larry

    I actually understood and, to some degree, appreciated the bus driver's attitude. He did mention the teachers were actually letting the kids do whatever, and there were some examples, I think. I am sure he just uses this as his own excuse, but at least he is doing something that he feels is really needed. If the teachers did their job and kids already knew about discipline in classes and in life, then the bus ride could be a time for play, instead. But this is the time where he could do his part in teaching what others should and did not.

    I liked how the recent TV adaptation made me see Dud as still young. When reading, I did not put much thought into that aspect of him. I thought of Mike Ryerson's age and, of course, the telephone company kid was always presented as being a youngster (he was just 23, if I remember correctly). Royce was young, as well. But now I see how Dud was from around those ages (closer to Mike, I think), and should actually have had a totally different friend life if people had accepted him.
  11. Doc Creed

    Doc Creed Well-Known Member

    The protagonist is not always my favorite character necessarily, but in this case he is. Ben Mears, like Larry Underwood, is a successful man but feels he has a lot to prove. Also, like Larry, he has survivor's guilt (I believe) and is haunted by the loss of women he's loved. As Shakespeare says, he is 'a man more sin against than in sinning'. Ben is not a tragic character, in the sense that his actions and consequences are inevitable but he's unmoored and forever troubled. "Everyone in town thought the man and boy were father and son" it reads in the beginning and I think this is the implied hope for Ben. To be a father figure. This is my interpretation.
    When this book gets cranked up, it is one scary scene after another.
    One of my favorites is when Jimmy and Ben are sitting with Marjorie Glick's corpse and she suddenly moves.
  12. notebookgirl

    notebookgirl Well-Known Member

    I guess I agree with all except the Father. However, come to think of it, do we know what happen to him......
  13. César Hernández-Meraz

    César Hernández-Meraz Wants to be Nick, ends up as Larry

    Another reminder I MUST find a way to read The Dark Tower series.

    Someday, I hope. :blush:

    For now, I am reading It, and I already bought The Stand, which I want to read during Christmas vacations. ;DD
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  14. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    Why, Kurt Barlow, of course.
  15. Stranger.Danger

    Stranger.Danger Well-Known Member

    Father Callahan. I liked Ben Mears but he didn't really interest me as Father Callahan did.
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  16. Coyo-T

    Coyo-T Well-Known Member

    Am I alone in liking Ed "Weasel" Craig? I usually tend to gravitate toward minor characters (as it's more of a treat when the narrative gets back around to them) and as sad as his life situation was, like Ben I just "liked" him.
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  17. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Reformed Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    Welcome Coyo!
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...welcome Coyo...
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  19. PennyHanscom

    PennyHanscom Member

    My favourite was definitely Matthew Burke, I liked how he was the voice of reason and the brains in the group. I was very disappointed when he died of a simple heart attack... Sigh.
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  20. Coyo-T

    Coyo-T Well-Known Member

    At least he didn't vampirize? :umm:
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