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Finders Keepers Discussion *SPOILERS*

Discussion in 'Finders Keepers' started by AchtungBaby, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. AchtungBaby

    AchtungBaby Well-Known Member

    I agree with you, even if no one else does.

    I'm reread King's books in order and he did it a lot in his early years. 'Salem's Lot has mention of "fags" and "homos" once every ten pages, or so it seemed.

    Seems like he would have gotten more subtle about it over the years.
  2. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    Make that three of us (at least). I find both that and the vaudeville stereotype 'blackie' patois extremely cringeworthy.
  3. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    Yes, there is just something puerile about the way SK goes about writing these scenes. As if he were a 10-year-old boy that just discovered these words and is using them to illicit reactions from the adults. Doing it once or twice in a story is fine and makes a point; repeating it over and over crosses the line for me.

    And before anyone jumps on me, I am not censoring SK or telling him how to write. I am merely talking about my feelings on the subject. Big difference. I have read SK since the paperback edition of Carrie and stuck with him through the 40 years of his career so far. I am not bashing him. Thanks. :watermelon:
  4. OldDarth

    OldDarth Well-Known Member

    Stephen King's latest book showcases a master at work. Beautifully plotted, Wonderful characters - duh! And awesome hints at what is yet to come.

    Especially loved the bits about how readers keep characters alive.

    There was one moment in the book where something happened and I had to close the book. I thought, you didn't just do that did you? That is how invested in the story I had become.

    I devoured it and it was a big five star - YUMMY!
  5. RandallFlagg19

    RandallFlagg19 Well-Known Member

    I think Stephen King is teasing his fans with Holly and Hodges annoyance at Jerome dialect, a suggestive shout out that he knows the fans don't like the dialect, but he still put some (but not a lot) in the book anyway

    The thing that bothered me most was the outdated cash, if the Saubers deposited $500 in bills 30 years old or older every month: a bank should have noticed that after a few month and been suspicious; also as a cashier that's something I would notice if they used cash directly at the same place (i e Grocery store) consistently

    Supernatural Brady: Right now the super natural elements are possibly suggestive no character saw the picture fall on its own, they heard Clack and responded to the noise: which makes me think Brady pushes it over when people are not looking directly at him, which suggest he has strong mental functioning, not a vegetable states he is very good at faking. Brady was a tech genius so the spastic sequencing on the tablet might just be a computer program and not supernatural static, ; and just because the bathroom water gushes on when Brady tablet device is glitches doesn't mean Brady mental forced the water on (maybe the faucet is motion-sensored, and its that crazy janitor who is fixated on water.)
  6. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    I forgot about
    the cash thing! YES! That bothered me, too! My MIL put $10 in each of the kids' Easter presents, and they were oldies, bu not that old--just since the latest reboot. Even the kids noticed right away. They weren't sure they were real money--lol. Unless cash transactions in old bills are common in whatever nebulous city these stories exist in, it seems like someone would get curious about that.
  7. notebookgirl

    notebookgirl Well-Known Member

    Totally agree!!!
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  8. jchanic

    jchanic Well-Known Member

    I finished my reread of Finders Keepers this morning. I did not like it as much as I liked Mr. Mercedes, however. The suspense in Mr. Mercedes far surpassed that in Finders Keepers. Not that FK is a bad book, however--I just liked Mr. Mercedes better. I think Brady made (makes?) a better bad guy too. I found myself, at times, almost feeling sorry for Morrie. A man with a true obsession. I did like the maturing of Holly and Jerome. Someone above mentioned that Holly should have her own book/story and I could go for that--she's neat!

    I'm really looking forward to book three--the way FK ends is great!

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  9. doowopgirl

    doowopgirl very avid fan

    I loved Finders Keepers. I don'e mean to be pedantic, but was the term home invasion in use in the late 70's? I loved that the villian didn't change his way of thinking at all while he was in prison. He felt the same way in his head as he did when he was younger. Yes, it was also obession, but while I look different than I did 25 years ago in my head I feel the same. King captures that perfectly. I loved the mesh between this book and Mr. Mercedes. Masterfully done. Oh, clank.
  10. doowopgirl

    doowopgirl very avid fan

    No disrespect intended, but I totally disagree. I liked that we met new people and situations first, then fitted Bill and Holly in. I do have to kind of agree about Jerome. I loved the mesh of the first with the second. Just good story telling to me.
  11. taggs7475

    taggs7475 Well-Known Member

    Just finished and once again nothing but the best from SK. Last chapter was great!
  12. chester brooks

    chester brooks Well-Known Member

    I just finished this morning, wonderful! Yes I thought it was exactly the same scene at city center until the last second. I love how the feel of he book changes. Like its a mystery at first then bammmm! Brutally in yo face. Wtf moment. Then bam! Treasure story. Bam prison story! Bam detective story! Lol I loved it! I thought hodges was just as cool as ever if not even cooler. He so sly and on his toes. The ending was so awesome. Didn't see that coming! Heh. Snuck right up on me. I think I like this book better just because of the fact that my gf hated Brady. This time I can rub it in her face that king is the best ever when she loves the book.
    Love and peace
  13. chester brooks

    chester brooks Well-Known Member

    Lol its not like he's dead. It's not Jimmy gold we're talking about lol.
  14. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    I finished Finders Keepers just a short while ago tonight. My first thoughts are that I like it even better than Mr. Mercedes. Unlike many of you, I was not a Brady fan. I liked Morris better. I'm still formulating specific thoughts about it and will post again tomorrow. Also, unlike many of you, the little things like Mrs. Beasley, the old money, etc. did not even occur to me nor do they bother me now that they have been mentioned. Stuff like that never bothers me in a work of fiction.

    Final thought for tonight: I find Mr. Mercedes and Finders Keepers about 10 times better in story and writing than Dr. Sleep and Revival put together. I realize those two books are "deeper" than Mr. Mercedes and Finders Keepers, but Dr. Sleep and Revival just did not do it for me at all. I found them wandering, full of partially formed characters and a letdown in the end. Mr. Mercedes and Finders Keepers are much more the SK type of writing and storytelling I have come to love over the last 40 years.

    I can go to bed happy tonight knowing I have just finished another winner, in my opinion!
  15. RichardX

    RichardX Well-Known Member

    I finished yesterday. Overall an entertaining read. I liked it slightly better than Mr. M and a lot better than Revival. King is certainly more at home in the realm of book collecting than he was in Brady's modern tech world. The love/hate relationship between authors and fans is something King is no doubt very familiar. Most suprising here is how long the story plays out before we get to the hardy band of regulars. I agree with some folks that Hodges, Holly, and Jerome are generally the weak link. Unintersting and not very believable as crime fighters. More a PC projection than reality based. They are often an annoying distraction. That would typically be a fatal flaw in such a series, but King manages to pull off a good story by leaving them off until the end where they serve as kind of a Wile E. Coyote to the Roadrunner by chasing after events. I do also dislike those "coincidences" that crop up like Pete living in Morris' former house and hiding the notebooks in the very place Morris decides to hide out. I can understand how that would be possible in the context of the story, but the odds just make it seem implausible and distracting. Maybe if the notebooks had been hidden in the house it would have been more plausible for a kid living in that house to have found them, but finding them by chance in a field seems farfetched. Just a minor annoyance though that I write off as dramatic license. As for Brady taking on Carrie-like powers, that holds interesting possibilities but is a jarring transition from a reality-based series to the supernatural.
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2015
  16. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    Still gathering my thoughts, but I would like to add that I absolutely loved that this book was about books. Other than the fictional John Rothstein, there are plenty of real authors mentioned and that made this book more "real" for me. Also, SK fleshes out the fictional Rothstein and his cannon of work well enough to make it believable. I think this, more than anything else, made this book for me.

    As for the "Scooby Gang" AWOL until the middle of the book, I will wait and see how much of a part they play in End of Watch. Once the trilogy is complete, it may seem that their absence for half of this book makes sense. And even if not, Morris, Drew and Pete were entertaining enough for me.
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  17. do1you9love?

    do1you9love? Happy to be here!

    Just finished a reread as well. I really enjoyed this book and agree that it was nice to have a fast moving story to read. While I thought Brady was a "good" bad guy, I thought Morris was believable and did not mind the break or the absence of Hodges, et. al. until the second half.

    I have also developed a theory about Jerome.
    It seemed to me on the second read that not only were Hodges and Holly bothered by the Tyrone dialect, but that Jerome was uncomfortable as well, almost like an uncontrollable nervous tic. I am speculating that somehow Jerome will need to channel his Tyrone persona in the final book to combat Brady and his new brain powers.

    And for the record, I am perfectly happy that a touch of supernatural was introduced into an otherwise "regular" story. Bring it on!=D
  18. fljoe0

    fljoe0 Cantre Member

    That spoiler is very interesting.
  19. carrie's younger brother

    carrie's younger brother Well-Known Member

    Concerning your spoiler (which I love):

    Sort of like Susannah Dean/Detta Walker in the Dark Tower series!
  20. do1you9love?

    do1you9love? Happy to be here!

    :yes_pig: And thanks!

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