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Grammar Nazi

Discussion in 'Chattery Teeth (Other)' started by Moderator, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    In spite of its title, this is a thread intended to help with those pesky questions like when do you use affect or effect? Is it farther or further? What about lie and lay? What sites have you found helpful for your answers when you don't know the correct usage?
  2. DiO'Bolic

    DiO'Bolic Not completely obtuse


    I just let Ms Mod’s twitches steer me in the right direction (Unfortunately I have a hard time staying on the path). But I feel good about it when she does. ;)
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  3. Bev Vincent

    Bev Vincent Well-Known Member

    To keep effect and affect straight, I always think of "side effect," which I know is a noun, so the other is the verb. And I know effect can be a verb on some occasions, but I never have a problem with that.

    I have huge problems with lie/lay. I have a cheat sheet next to my home computer for whenever I have to use one of them.
  4. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    Once you figure out how the site is layed out, Grammarly Handbook | English Grammar Rules is very useful. (the affect/effect, lie/lay, etc. are covered in the 'Words that sound alike' subheading. There's a bit in transitive/intransitive verbs, too)
  5. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member

    Have an international friend and am often asked correct English grammar. Since one tends to become "comfortable" with incorrect usage, I have used this link to double ck correctness.

    Easily Confused Words
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  6. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

  7. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    With lie/lay, I began to highlight the words and their variations when I found them in stories. I went to lie down, present tense, whereas, I lay on the couch, past tense. A bit trickier when writing about a thing...not sure: I laid the spoon on the table? Or: I lay the spoon on the table? Stay away from spoons, my answer.
  8. Jordan

    Jordan Webmaster-at-Large Administrator Moderator

    I apologize in advance.

  9. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    I before E except after C. That's all.
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  10. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

  11. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    Or when sounded as "a,"
    As in neighbour and weigh.

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  12. hossenpepper

    hossenpepper Don't worry. I have a permit!!!

  13. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

  14. hossenpepper

    hossenpepper Don't worry. I have a permit!!!

    Info is solid. The Oatmeal's humor I believe will help some remember this stuff. Plus he is a funny mofo...
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  15. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    I just added The Oatmeal to my Bookmarks.
  16. fushingfeef

    fushingfeef Uber-in-waiting

    I'm guilty of saying "Which do you like best?" when comparing two objects, when I should technically be saying "Which do you like better?" or perhaps better yet, "Which do you prefer?"

    I often confuse when I should be capitalizing the first letters of Dad/dad, Mother/mother, etc.

    I don't know if til is a word. I know 'until' is a word, and 'till' probably is, but not so sure about til. On a related note, when people say the time is "quarter til eight" I understand that they mean 7:45, but when they say "quarter of eight" I am not sure if this means 7:45 or 8:15.

    I over-use hyphens!
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  17. Lepplady

    Lepplady Chillin' since 2006

    One of my favorites is hanged versus hung. I can't STAND it when they say "He was hung from that tree." Okay. But how did he die? When somebody's dangling dead at the end of a rope, they were hanged.
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  18. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    I've seen the use of "lit" and "lighted" in fiction...He lit a cigarette...He lighted a cigarette. I like "lit" but I'm not sure if either is correct. Too, I've seen many split infinitive...."to quickly run" rather than "to run quickly". Probably not the best example...but Strunk and White tells use not to split our infinitive...another handy reference, The Elements of Style, Strunk and White.
  19. Chuggs

    Chuggs Well-Known Member

    Too many two's will add up to an even number.

    They're all shopping with their spouses at the mall, and it is from there that they want to flee.

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  20. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    I went thru a process per Mom vs mom. I decided to use "mom" when not referring to my own or someone else's mother. "Til" is not a word. "'Til" is. "Till is a word and apparently can be used instead of "'Til" (Till - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary).

    I think "quarter to eight" and "quarter of eight" are both allowed and mean the same thing - 7:45 o'clock.

    I'm still figuring hyphens out, but I feel more comfy these days knowing when and when not to use one.

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