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...i Am Soooo Mad!

Discussion in 'Rose Madder' started by 91rewoT, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. Phantomking

    Phantomking Well-Known Member

    I really like the book outside of the supernatural elements. I love how Rosie gets the courage to leave and start a new life and I just felt that throwing in the things about
    the bull and the temple and Rose Madder herself
    were unnecessary.

    One thing I am really impressed with is the great job Stephen King does with the character of Norman. You hate him immediately and cannot wait for him to get his comeuppance. That's also why I felt the supernatural part took away from the book because
    Rose should have been the one to kill him and make him suffer instead of a supernatural spider
  2. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    But that's one of the things I enjoy the most about sK in general, that he includes unusual and/or unexpected elements. They add dimension and a challenge for my imagination. It makes his stories more stimulating to me than other authors'.
  3. MandarkC

    MandarkC Active Member

    I think though that the supernatural aspects in this book were meant to also be slightly allegorical to the way she changes her life around and how she gets over her fear of Norman, etc. etc.

    I enjoyed the way Norman spiralled into a Jack Torrance style breakdown. I think
    the spider killing him instead of Rose
    was in a way, better, because she wouldn't take that guilt with her like you know she would if she actually did it. I think it would have ruined the person she was trying to become...and also because
    at the end when she finds she also has rages, she would have freaked out and thought it was because she killed Norman

    Hope that made sense! Just my take on it... (had to wiki the ending again (cheated a little heh-i wiki'd it before deciding to buy the book) because I'm almost through through the book)
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  4. GuesssWho

    GuesssWho Active Member

    I keep imagining Rose Madder as a female Twinner to sai Mordred. Did anyone else think that, or just me?
  5. Sunlight Gardener

    Sunlight Gardener Well-Known Member

  6. MandarkC

    MandarkC Active Member

    Lol sorry besides the point. Your name gave me a nasty shock for a second when I saw it haha I like
  7. RichardX

    RichardX Well-Known Member

    I agree with you on this. I read this book many years ago and didn't like it much. Re-reading it now and enjoying it more up to the point she enters the painting then my eyes started to roll back in my head. It's a bit jolting to go from an interesting reality based story of domestic abuse into the realm of fantasy. With the exception of the fantasy element the plot has some similarity to Mr. Mercedes. Or maybe that's just because I read them back to back. A kind of cat and mouse with a bad guy with no supernatural talents. I seem to recall King indicating Rose Madder was a book that he wasn't particularly satisfied with. But don't remember what his reasons were. It's a mixed bag, but the Norman character stands out as a creep. I sometimes think the reality based bad guys are much more terrifying than the supernatural ones because we know more than a few are out there.
  8. Ebdim9th

    Ebdim9th A Man's Chord and Author/bringer of Bad Dolls

    Even in Gerald's Game there's a moment of the supernatural involved when that guy with the little bones in the box shows up at the foot of the bed.... I think there may be only a handful of Stephen King stories that don't have that element in them...
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  9. VultureLvr45

    VultureLvr45 Well-Known Member

    teresting concept, no, not as a twinner to Mordred, but more as the Greek Godess, Artemis. Protective..
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  10. xkittyx

    xkittyx Unfound

    I've read this one a couple of times, and I really enjoyed it. I like the beginning, her slow wake up, and then boom, she's outta there, and Norman's craziness...
    I might be the oddball, but I really loved the supernatural, the whole painting and the world inside. I've always been a huge fan of the Greek myths, so that drew me in, and then on a re-read, after I'd read the Dark Tower books, the whole world in the painting intrigued me for that as well.
    How the city of Lud is mentioned, and something else I think, though my last re-read was a few years ago, so it's all foggy now
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  11. Ebdim9th

    Ebdim9th A Man's Chord and Author/bringer of Bad Dolls

    I like the fact that no trace of her psycho husband will ever be found, precisely because of how she got rid of him...
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  12. GuesssWho

    GuesssWho Active Member

    She seems like what Mordred could have been, if only someone had been kind to him.
  13. ALOT

    ALOT Banned

    It does feel somewhat similar.I wondered if there was a connection between this story and The Dark Tower series , and I suppose if Steve wanted to he could connect the dots through another installment of the series or a followup story to Rose Madder. But the references in this story are minor. The temple, the garden, the opening to another world...
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2015
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  14. M&P15

    M&P15 Deleted User


    I didn't know so many others felt the way I did.
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  15. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    I am re-reading this. Great book. But...the one thing that has always bothered me is

    how quickly Rose was able to find a helping hand, an address, a place to live, friends and a job, then a great job.

    Oh, and a boyfriend

    I realize that it is a fiction novel, but it could never be that easy - or all abused women leave just like that.

    That's just me. It bugged.
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  16. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    There was a time in my life when I wanted to escape from an unhealthy relationship. I remember looking up resources for abused women (he had only hit me once at that point but I was determined to escape after that one slap).

    I finally took my father's advice and ended up going back to the Recruiting Centre where I had applied to get into the military the summer before.

    So, yes, it did turn into a career but initially I just wanted a change/improvement in my life.

    Looking back, I am glad I did. They say once a man hits you (even once!) it's a warning sign and to get out (he was also very jealous and possessive, trying to control how I dressed, etc.)

    p.s. I really loved that book Rose Madder
  17. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    I'm very happy that you were able to get away from that man. All it takes is just the 'one time' for an abuser to kill you. I applaud you!
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  18. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    Yes, well I looked around for places at one time myself. Nothing would come close to that kind of help. That's why it bugged me so much, it did not seem realistic.

    Glad you got away too , neese
  19. Agree with this 100%.
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  20. mal

    mal Well-Known Member

    I loved it when I read it years ago. I remember being particularly frightened by the bull headed guy.

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