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I Feel Like This Book Is Intentionally Deeper Than What Appears *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Revival' started by Eyeshadow, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side


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  2. mal

    mal Well-Known Member

    Hi Eyeshadow, Interesting read. You've given me grist for the mulling mill. Welcome! mal
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  3. Aloysius Nell

    Aloysius Nell Well-Known Member

    My feeling is that SK addressed that topic pretty well with Dan Torrance. Maybe he didn't want to re-hash the same themes he had written about just a few years before. Maybe he was looking at another person in a similar situation, and chose to describe it from a different point of view.

    Or, maybe he felt that too much description of the addiction would drag the story down. Lord knows, he's been accused of such in the past.
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  4. sam peebles

    sam peebles Well-Known Member

    While I can definitely see similarities between It and Mother, I don't believe they're one in the same. Their modus operandi are quite different, and It is dead. Maybe...maybe...they could be related.
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  5. Mocos

    Mocos Active Member

    You all make me wonder if I'm too simple, lol. I definitely saw the similarities between Mother and It, but those similarities just led me to an instant conclusion that Mother had the same ability (at least, to an extent) of seeing inside a person's mind and finding their worst fears, or maybe in "her" case it's their most traumatic memory. For Jacobs, that was obviously seeing his dead son without a face. So, Mother traumatizes him some more by making him see his wife and son's faces on her leg. Kind of a double-whammy. She's saying, "They're not significant enough to be in a more important spot than my foot, but hey, I found those faces you've been wondering about!" Maybe I do this just so I can sleep at night, but It and Mother just seem like particularly nasty animals to me... much like spiders (funny, that). Not really evil, because they don't choose to be evil. They're just using their natural (or supernatural, if you like) abilities to hunt and catch their prey. Unfortunately, that's us. But sometimes, we find a gun in the top drawer. Or believe enough in the power of a silver bullet.
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  6. Sam Joyce

    Sam Joyce Gentle Lady From Brady Hartsfield Defense Squad

    THIS THOUGHTS MADE ME WANT TO HAVE A REMAKE IN REVIVAL IN REV. CHARLIE'S PERSPECTIVE. I believe this book has deeper meaning so i want to reread it to change my like meter of this to love meter. Because I LOVE REV. CHARLIE AS HOW I LOVE BRADY HARTSFIELD lol

    I am once in a band (but not as a guitarist, as a drummer) so i was hooked at this novel.

    I once said "something happened" like this to my friend

    Something something something happened happened happened something happened thing happened somethign happened something happened something happened happened

    And my friend said "what an awesome remix sam"
    Me : -__-
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  7. greg kai

    greg kai New Member

    Actually I see more common points between the Mother and the Crimson King from Dark tower/Hearts in Atlantis than It/Pennywise. Especially CK as described in Hearts, the "Null" makes me think a lot about the place where Ted Brautigan comes from...Low men being "ant things". Probably because in both cases there seems to be a whole society there where men are the slaves, and a hierarchy of beings above them. It seems more a loner to me. Also Astrid makes me think of Carol, Bev not so much.
    Enjoyed Revival a lot, especially the growing up/getting old part of it, lot like Hearts for a bittersweet taste. King at his best! "It" is probably my favorite, and I love the way kids are described, but the getting older part rings slightly less true, not sure why. Now one can argue that it/pennywise is also the crimson king ;-)
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  8. rudiroo

    rudiroo Well-Known Member

    Hi Eyeshadow - great idea for a thread.

    In this novel is that we grow old with Jamie.
    SK always wants to share, so as middle-age hammers at his door, we hear it too -if you're a youngster, it's a distant tippety-tap.
    At 55? I can hear it dragging the door off the hinges.

    B.Springsteen said,
    Like a river that don't know where it's flowing
    I took a wrong turn and I just kept going.

    Lots of people don't know where they're flowing, but they end up in a safe(ish) place
    Jamie doesn't.
    Sometimes it's his fault - he's the engine driving the event (or shutting it down).
    Sometimes, it just. . happens.
    SK always wants to share, reminding us that the random is everywhere.
    But the random holds hands with destiny/fate/beshert (Yiddish:when two people meet and the chemistry is right, it's beshert- meant to be).

    Where does that leave us?
    With paradox.
    Isn't that how most of us live?
    Fumbling with incompatible stuff in our heads, tripping over it, shoving it into life's laundry basket.
    Dealing with tragedy when we're least prepared, chance encounters that reverberate (like guitar feedback, maybe? Cue old-school music reference :a11:)
    Plus all the snippets that end up in the miscellaneous drawer, because there isn't anywhere else to put them.

    Why do we do this?
    For revival http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/164908?redirectedFrom=revival#eid (thanks OED, revival means more than we thought, eh?)
    Every day we're alive is an act of revival.
    And when we're dead, we're something else.

    And SK always wants to tell us about that. .
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