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Is everyone missing the point?

Discussion in '11/22/63' started by Joe Holt, Dec 20, 2015.

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Do you believe Lee Oswald assassinated President Kennedy?

  1. yes

  2. no

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  1. Joe Holt

    Joe Holt New Member

    I'm always a day late or a dollar short so it doesn't surprise me that only now have I become aware of the film. I know it's fiction. I know Steven King is a terrific writer with an exceptional sense of make believe, but I look on this book as something else, a perpetuation of deliberate falsehoods pertaining to the assassination of John Kennedy. At the end of the book King felt the need to confirm his belief that Lee Oswald was guilty as sin. Seeing as how his book was written prior to Judyth Baker's "Lee and Me" I'd assumed (hoped) Mr. King had read her book by now and come to a different conclusion. It seems I assumed wrongly. Films are a powerful medium in explaining historical events, oft times incorrectly yet the moviegoers immediately take the film at face value with no critical thinking whatsoever. I'm certain this will be the case with this film, sad to say. The fact is Lee Oswald never shot our President. He was a patsy just as he declared prior to his murder. Truth. Honest truth.
     
  2. staropeace

    staropeace Richard Bachman's love child

    That is just your opinion that he did not shoot the president. I do not know how true any history is, for that matter. It is all just opinion really...depending on who is writing it. I see no reason not to believe that Oswald killed the President. Occam's razor and all that. Remember that this is a work of fiction. I do not think that Stephen was looking for truth. He was just entertaining us with fiction.
     
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  3. muskrat

    muskrat Dis-Member

    The question, to me, isn't whether or not he did it, it's did he act alone. I don't think he was the only shooter. I could be wrong. And before everyone else takes a whack at this dead horse, lemme tell ya this: unless YOU were in on it, or were there that day, YOU don't know either. No amount of books, speeches, investigation, theories, etc., will ever clear the smoke on this one. Sorry, Charlie, nobody knows (none of US, anyhoo), and nobody ever will. I don't care who's book you read or what you've heard--no use arguing it, cause you'll just be repeating something someone else wrote or said. If history has taught us anything, it's that it can't be trusted. To much hired B.S.

    That's all I got to say about that.

    Except: movie? I thought they were making some lame tv show with Franco.
     
  4. PatInTheHat

    PatInTheHat GOOBER MEMBER

    Huh, thought I'd already seen the movie, think it was Macgruber, or somethin' or 'nother, wuddnit:eagerness:?
     
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  5. Patricia A

    Patricia A ReMember

    I couldn't vote because frankly, I don't know. The whole thing has been speculated about to the point of utter confusion, to my thinking. But one thing that haunts me is Oswald yelling out that he was a patsy. I can't help but to believe him. But a patsy to whom? We may never know.
     
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  6. bigkingfan91

    bigkingfan91 Well-Known Member

    That was my only problem with the book. I loved it, but I don't care for Kings opinion on the deal and it was hard for me to read all the Oswald related stuff in the book. I fought through it and am glad I did but it was hard. I just tried to look at it as pure fiction, which I personally believe the idea that Oswald shot JFK is pure fiction as well. But that's just me. I'm not here to debate and get into that. I love the story and the idea but personally I wish he had steered clear from touching the JFK assassination. I wish that could have been a purely fictional story relating to no real past events but I suppose he wanted it to really resonate with people. Didn't resonate with me any but I enjoyed it and loved the ending. I won't fight through it again though.
     
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  7. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    You did see the cover and the title of the book, hey?
     
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  8. doowopgirl

    doowopgirl very avid fan

    The cover and the title should have been a giveaway.
     
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  9. bigkingfan91

    bigkingfan91 Well-Known Member

    Yes I did see the cover and the title I'm not blind and stupid. That was my own opinion and if you don't like it there's not much I can do for you.
     
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  10. Sigmund

    Sigmund Waiting in Uber.

    :yes_pig:


    A book titled 11/22/63 ? Wonder what that's all about? :umm: ;;D

    Actually, I remember one of my little BIL telling me he had noticed the book title and Recognized the date AT ONCE had picked it up. After seeing the front and back cover and that is was written by Stephen King, he got it.
     
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  11. bigkingfan91

    bigkingfan91 Well-Known Member

    And at what point in my post did you get the idea I walked into it not knowing Kings opinion on the murder? You did read my entire post, hey?
     
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  12. bigkingfan91

    bigkingfan91 Well-Known Member

    Being a loyal King fan, I knew all about the book and decided to give it a go. I'm not griping, I enjoyed it. I'm not a newbie, I know all about Kings opinions on the matter. No clue why you think otherwise LOL.
     
  13. Sigmund

    Sigmund Waiting in Uber.

    Hey!

    I was writing my post (above) when your post was..posted.

    I wasn't trying to be an azz (I know you weren't directing this at me but) it just struck me funny,

    ...I wish he had steered clear from touching the JFK assassination...

    The very title 11/22/63 is a day that will be forever associated with the assassination of JFK IMO so ...

    Say sorry.
     
  14. bigkingfan91

    bigkingfan91 Well-Known Member

    Let me spell it out for you. I meant after reading it. I did not mean I walked into the book unaware of anything.
     
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  15. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Original Kiwi© SKMB® Moderator

    I think we all understand each other now, yes? :smile:
     
  16. bigkingfan91

    bigkingfan91 Well-Known Member

    Yes I didn't mean to cause problems just got a little jumpy when I shouldn't have. Facepalm! :)
     
  17. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Original Kiwi© SKMB® Moderator

    I don't particularly think you did cause any problems. :) (we all just need to remind ourselves that it's okay to have differing opinions and that we often approach things in different ways)
     
  18. CrimsonKingAH

    CrimsonKingAH LOVE & PEACE

  19. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    I need chocolate.....
     
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  20. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    Thanks Flake. For mod edits.
     
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