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Discussion in 'The Tommyknockers' started by Juneplum, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. Chuggs

    Chuggs Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the board. I would say, finish it. :)
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  2. webe1954

    webe1954 Member

    I read Tommyknockers when my kids were little. The only time I had to read was after they went to bed. I'd sit at my kitchen table and read. The back door was behind me and every once in a while I'd get a weird feeling of being watched. It might have been the goats in the back yard but I'm betting it was my paranoia from reading the book in a dark house in the dark nights.
  3. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    Goats? Welcome to the board!
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  4. webe1954

    webe1954 Member

    Yeah, goats. I lived in farmland and had some livestock. Since my place was small we had to go with small animals. Goats are really nice animals btw. They are about the same intelligence as a dog and pretty mischievous too. Not to mention stubborn. Did I mention stubborn?
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  5. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    You don't have to sell me on the merits of goats. Stick around, I speak goat.
  6. Chazel1972

    Chazel1972 Well-Known Member

    I read Tommyknockers in the evenings when I was staying in a cabin for the summer, yeah you've got to watch the environment you read in.... book was EXTRA scary in the woods.

    I also had to stop reading The Stand one summer when I caught a summer cold. sniffle sniffle
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  7. webe1954

    webe1954 Member

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  8. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side



    I am learning a lot about goats here - who knew?
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  9. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    Is that just sweet. I'm telling you, goats are sweet if you raise them right. If they are socialized to humans early, they will adore you.
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  10. webe1954

    webe1954 Member

    And there is nothing cuter than a few week old Nubian kids bouncing around the back yard, knobby knees and all.
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  11. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    Absolutely. Klutzy springy little things! So cute!
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  12. EMTP513

    EMTP513 Well-Known Member

    Not making light of anyone's nightmares, since I had one of my own every single day for almost 10 years straight, but if I could actually choose what I had a nightmare about I would choose it to be about something from a book. Something that had never actually happened
    The only nightmare I've ever had that involved literature or popular horror of any kind is when I dreamed about Freddy Kruger. That's the only movie that's ever truly scared me, because it was about nightmares becoming reality and vice versa.
    Most of my dreams are about what he talked of in the book Guns. He said that what gun violence looks like in real life is "the stuff that gives EMT's nightmares for years after it happens" and then mentioned that Wayne LaPierre and buddies should have to see what the real thing looks like. I found that idea so ungodly satisfying that I actually fantasized about him being forced to see it and getting sick over it. Which, instead of generating sympathy in me for Wayne LaPierre made me feel an unholy satisfaction of believing he of all people deserves to see the REAL thing. Not whatever ridiculous idea he has in that empty head of his of what constitutes "the real problem."
    I'm sorry but since he co-signed his name to that commercial blaming only one group of people for continued gun violence and "having the blood of dead kids on their hands" I've despised the living hell out of the lying b*stard. And his little friends, too.

    A few weeks ago, we brought in a pregnant woman who was on her way to work and was hit by bullets during the crossfire of a drive-by shooting between two gangsters; I work in a large city. The woman was dead by the time she arrived at Emergency but the baby was still alive, which meant they had to take it from the womb without expediting to surgery if they were going to save it from the same fate as its mother. But they had to expedite to surgery when they discovered that two rounds had hit the baby, so they tried to salvage its life, only to fail because of how people are making bullets these days with the express purpose of killing PEOPLE and NOT animals. The way they're making hydroshock and RIP bullets, it would tear up all the meat, and nobody would use these projectiles to kill animals. The obvious result being that they couldn't save the baby either and it was pronounced dead less than three hours after its mother.
    Later, the husband of this woman & baby came into ER thinking his wife was alive, and asked the doctor how she was doing. The doctor told him she had died but mentioned that the baby was alive and in surgery right now because of what had happened, at which time he broke down so completely that I can still see the look in his eyes, which I can't find words to describe, and which still bothers me more than it probably should.
    He was having an almost impossible time assimilating the news that his wife was dead. Then he asked about the baby and the doctor had to tell him it was in surgery right now because two bullets had hit it, one in the leg and one in the shoulder. Then he asked if the doctor thought the baby was going to make it, bc this doctor had recently been operating on the baby when a specialist replaced him. So the doctor told him it wasn't going well without mentioning that hydroshock bullets was WHY it was going so poorly. Later they lost the baby but at the time this happened it was still hanging on. However, the doctor had almost no hope of its survival

    There were no "good guys with guns" that came swooping down with superhero capes flapping to save this woman and child from what happened to them. There's NEVer any "good guys with guns" or we wouldn't have been called in the FIRST place.
    As if it weren't bad enough to hear all that news, two days later I see this lying b*stard of a commercial blaming **** like this on people who want SENSIBLE gun laws, which says NOTHING about wanting all guns outlawed, although I'll come right out and say hydroshock and RIP bullets are bullsh*t, were never made for killing animals - only people - and I wouldn't care if every hydroshock and RIP missile disappeared off the face of the earth.
    Blaming sh*t on people when you don't even know what the hell you're talking about is so disgusting that only Wayne LaPierre, Ted Nugent and all their slimy friends could even think of doing it.

    My brother's had guns all his life (but he's never had hydroshock or RIP bullets; aka as cop-killing bullets). I've never had any problem with his having guns. But I have a problem with people in gangs being able to LEGALLY obtain firearms because of loopholes that almost two years after Newtown STILL exist. Because after all, none of the Senators could pass legislation to close the loopholes, which Wayne LaPierre said was "useless to do." It's like the song 'Eve of Destruction' said: "Handful of senators don't pass legislation...then you tell me you don't believe, we're on the eve of destruction."
    I don't like second-guessing the almighty but I think he made a mistake when he gave that jack*ss, Wayne LaPierre, a mouth.

    This probably won't be published because of its intensity, but I think people should know that the woman and her baby are one of the examples of what he meant when he said "what real gun violence looks like gives EMT's nightmares for years."
    It happened less than a month ago, and it took me almost two weeks plus two critical incident stress meetings just to recenter myself. It's the longest I've ever taken to just get over something and move forward despite its occurrence, and the commercial I saw is one of the reasons it's taking longer than it should.
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  13. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    I'd like to say something, but I know I cannot.
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  14. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    I think your hatred for Wayne LaPierre is fed by the establishment media and you are drinking up what they feed you. I suspect the asshats who fired the guns have lists of crimes as long or longer than my arm. I suspect the only reason they are not behind bars if because of our revolving door justice system. I think your post is utter tripe. I think anyone who wants to ban guns, limit magazines, or the like can kiss my lovin' a$$. That includes any asshat who wishes to limit a magazine to ten rounds or less. Limiting magazines to ten rounds is akin to asking the woman to partake of backalley abortions. The kool aid drinkers, jack*sses, with mouths, have no problem shouting from the rooftops that a woman should be able to kill the unborn baby in her womb via abortion. The same kool aid drinker jack*sses, with mouths, see no irony is demanding that the people, women included, have no right to keep and bear arms for their self-preservation. Guns have been used millions of times to defend people from harm. Take that to the bank. Wayne LaPierre also spoke those words.

    Our own ICE bureaucracy released 36,000 criminal aliens, 200 of whom were murderers, saying they had done their time. Until such time that you get interested in the revolving door justice system employed by those who claim to represent us, please refrain from calling a man I respect a jack*ss. It's terrible that life was lost, but that is not Wayne LaPierre's fault. Loopholes? Like what? Show me. Until that time, utter tripe.
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  15. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Original Kiwi© SKMB® Moderator

    That'll be it as far as this discussion goes thanks you guys, if you want to continue with the political dialogue you can take it over to the Politics As Usual thread.
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  16. Pucker

    Pucker We all have it coming, kid

    I love this passage:

    He had been raised to believe God was love, but you had to wonder how loving a God could be when He made men and women smart enough to land on the moon but stupid enough to have to learn there was no such thing as forever over and over again.

    That encapsulates a great deal of what I know. :cool2:


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