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On my 4th time reading Duma, and I just realized...

Discussion in 'Duma Key' started by mrblonde, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. Echo Looper

    Echo Looper Well-Known Member

    I too saw Wireman as The Dude from The Big Lebowski. Just finishing Duma Key now...
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  2. Steffen

    Steffen Well-Known Member

    Doc Creed, I like how you're thinking. We're on the same page as far as Duma Key goes. Have to give that a re-read when I can.
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  3. Death Kat

    Death Kat Member

    I'm re-reading Duma Key and enjoying it. Here's my Wireman - Neal McDonough, he played Dave on Desperate Housewives ages ago.
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...I'm a radio personality...how disappointing was I?....:eyebrow:
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...thank you, at least somebody loves me....:triumphant:
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  6. Autumn13

    Autumn13 Active Member

    I wonder that you thought that. Remember Edgar and Wireman discussing the newspaper coverage of the young "child prodigy" and wondering, if she had been "black", would she have been called a "pickininny" or ignored altogether.
    Remember Nan Melda?
    Edgar makes a point of wondering if the "ole massa" (John Eastlake) was having an affair with the "help" and that might be why Nan Melda had those silver bracelets.What I thought was interesting is when Edgar remembers Illy bringing home a picture of a brown balloon head saying she had drawn a picture of him.
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  7. César Hernández-Meraz

    César Hernández-Meraz Wants to be Nick, ends up as Larry

    He mentioned it would have been like this:
    Smart white girl = prodigy.
    Smart black girl = freak, to be paraded in a circus or carnival.
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  8. Autumn13

    Autumn13 Active Member

    I found the quote: page 400 Hardcover Edition (first Edgar speaking then Wireman at the hospital the night Elizabeth died.)

    I tapped CHILD PRODIGY "Look, they even had the right fancy term for it. Do you suppose if she'd been poor and black, they would have called her PICKININNY FREAK and stuck her in a sideshow somewhere? Because I sort of do"
    "If she'd been poor and black, she never would have made the paper at all. Or fallen out of a pony-trap to begin with."
  9. Sliced Bread

    Sliced Bread Well-Known Member

    I don't really know why but every Stephen King book I read I picture the main character as the guy who played the adult Bill Denborough in IT.

    Anyway I just finished this book for the first time and wow! What a fantastic book. Straight up there as one of my favourite ever King novels. I feel like his writing style has changed a lot in recent years. With his earlier predominantly horror books, creepy as all hell but it felt at times like his hand was struggling to keep up with the pace of the ideas coming out of his imagination, if that makes sense. His later books are slower paced and are much more layered, characters have more depth and more time is spent emphasising relationships between characters etc. Edgar's connection to his family and friends in this story really drew me in and stirred up emotions. A lot of really likeable characters in the book too, and the chemistry between the three men was very fun. That said, it was also one of the very few books that I've been genuinely scared while reading. There was some tense stuff going on in there!

    Apologies for getting a bit effusive with the praise there (though if I can't do it here, where can I do it?!) but I really loved this book...
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  10. champ1966

    champ1966 Well-Known Member

    'Goodnight Mary Helen, goodnight Jim Bob.....'
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  11. Tooly

    Tooly Well-Known Member

    I was 100 pages from the end when my father died in 2008. Reading this book kept me occupied while it was going on.
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  12. Anduan Pirate Princess

    Anduan Pirate Princess Well-Known Member

    I totally pictured Wireman as black the whole time. Of course, I listened to the audiobook read by John Slattery, so his "Wireman voice" helped that image form in my mind, I'm sure.
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  13. raperm

    raperm Member

    I just finished this for the first time, and loved it. It was probably the most relevant book of King's that I've read to me personally, because of Edgar's relationship with Ilse. My own daughter is just slightly older (21) and we have a very close relationship too. The part of the book where she died actually hurt to read.

    But I gotta throw in with Sunlight Gardner on this; I can't for the life of me figure out where people were getting that she was black. From the start, she was described by Edgar as the "Bride of the Godfather". And given her upbringing as a member of a rich family in Florida with a black nanny, it seemed pretty damn clear that she and her family where lilly white. I think papa Eastlake was even descirbed in one of the photos as looking "pale". And to top it off, when Wireman and Edgar are looking into her background as an artist, Edgar even ASKS what the papers would have said about her if she'd been black; too which Wireman responds, they wouldn't have said anything.

    I get "casting" in the mind, but this one I just don't understand given the details of the story.

    But, for fantasy casting?

    Edgar: Scott Bakula

    Wireman: Jeff Bridges (kept picturing "the Dude" the whole time).

    Pam: Patricia Heaton; she does bitchy wife really well, and has surprisingly good dramatic range when she has those roles.

    Ms. Eastlake: Sian Phillips

    Jack Cantori: David Lambert
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  14. sam sampson

    sam sampson New Member

    I never thought Wireman was spanish....I still don't not with that last name. Seems most people think he was. I thought he just "saw himself" spanish because he was in love with a mexican woman

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  16. Bardo

    Bardo Well-Known Member

    Elizabeth Eastlake isn't black.
    For some reason I pictured Henry, from Black House as Black.
    Mixed up with Speedy I guess,

    Wireman I see as the bearded Indian Jones sidekick,
    Do not recall the name
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  17. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    My Wireman looks like George Carlin.
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  18. mal

    mal Well-Known Member

    Tim Robbins as Edgar. Morgan Freeman as Wireman. That's who I had in my head while reading. This was yet another great book!
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  19. Tery

    Tery Dreaming in Middletown Moderator

    For some weird reason I kept seeing this guy as Wireman:

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  20. rudiroo

    rudiroo Well-Known Member

    I hear you.
    My father z'l died seven years ago - a steady diet of SK, Doctor Who (David Tennant incarnation) and Being Human (UK version) Being Human UK.jpg
    stopped me from succumbing to a broken heart.
    When reality is unbearable, fiction (especially the dark variety) may save us.

    We read SK/read zombie fiction/check-in for the flight to the furthest reaches of our imagination, because we're not afraid of the darkness.
    And thank goodness for that.
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